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Post by pacinoyes on Aug 15, 2018 12:55:17 GMT
I mean in dialog or clips or visual jokes/references.
In Spike Lee's BlacKkKlansman - this is pops up in several different ways (from the first scene even, which shows a clip of a very famous film), some I liked - an early throwaway joke about "not liking black and white movies" (in reference to Last Picture Show) is slyly funny. Some other stuff in the film in the same way I didn't like, but it's a big part of what's on his mind.
What are some films that did this where you thought it worked and some where it failed and took you out of the film you were watching. Especially interested in movies that show actual clips of other movies.
I thought of Natural Born Killers - a film I don't really like much but that has a positively brilliant aspect to it in using all kinds of films stock and approaches (animation too etc), as commentary on that media and violence that implemented some real clips too (Scarface, etc.). I also thought of those handful of great films that actually use an old film (or films) as the basis of their own movie (Spirit Of The Beehive, Cinema Paradiso).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 12:58:55 GMT
Il Sorpasso! "Did you see L'Eclisse?" - "Yes." "I fell asleep. Had a nice nap. Great director, Antonioni." 
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Aug 15, 2018 13:09:39 GMT
Obviously you have things like Ready Player One, where it works and it's great and you have reference after reference after reference, and if you miss one, not to worry, there'll be another along in a minute. Going back 20 odd years  , you have Scream, which was the same thing, although not nearly to that extreme. Sticking in the 90s, you also have smaller ones, like this clever little gem, from that underrated horror classic The Faculty, "If you were going to take over the world, would you blow up the White House Independence Day style, or sneak in through the back door?". While referencing a film only two years older than you is a risk in terms of dating your piece, Independence Day is such a massive film, that the reference will probably always hit home. Of course, you also have The Cornetto Trilogy, which is about the peak of film referencing for me. "We're coming to get you Barabara" being perhaps the ultimate. |
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Aug 15, 2018 18:51:32 GMT
"Did you see L'Eclisse?" - "Yes." "I fell asleep. Had a nice nap. Great director, Antonioni." Me  |
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Post by Mattsby on Aug 15, 2018 20:46:43 GMT
Chaplin's short The Immigrant in Au Revoir Les Enfants......
Clips of Adventures of Baron Munchausen ('43) and Snow White in Haneke's Fraulein....
Recently, in American Animals, the characters reference Reservoir Dogs, watch The Killing, and in one scene satirize Oceans 11...
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Post by Mattsby on Aug 15, 2018 20:49:40 GMT
Another good one , an early example of a meta reference.....
La Dolce Vita in Divorce Italian Style
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Post by ibbi on Aug 15, 2018 22:20:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2018 13:57:31 GMT
Classic.
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 13, 2018 14:22:05 GMT
at about 1:05 mark here, Gere references the famous movie Keaton is IN and then the actor's name who played her f'n husband in that movie.
That will take you right out of the film.........
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2018 15:18:42 GMT
pacinoyes - Haven't Pacino and Keaton dated off-and-on for like the past 50 years?
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 13, 2018 15:37:02 GMT
From 72-90 at least - and then broke up when he fathered a child (his first!) with acting teacher Jan Tarrant - they break up during filming of Godfather Part III which makes their scenes in that underrated film even more heartbreaking as Michael and Kay are attempting to reconcile. There is a sorrowful clip of Pacino winning the Golden Globe for AiA and he has brought that child, Julie, now a young lady to the event. Keaton is one table over - quite close to him - and the levels of lost love, stupidity (on his part), and betrayal (on his part) are sort of staggering and then he gets up and engages in a joking conversation from the stage with Jack Nicholson who is AT the Keaton table for Something's Gotta Give. It literally blows your mind and you think, he can't be this clueless can he...........and then you think of how GOAT level talented he is and how with all that talent he's still in Gigli, Jack and Jill, etc. and you think yeah maybe he is that clueless in general. |
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Post by Film Socialism on Sept 13, 2018 21:13:07 GMT
doesn't work: RPO
works: the like 30 seconds of Blow Out that references fucking La region centrale
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Post by Christ_Ian_Bale on Sept 13, 2018 22:22:16 GMT
Prime example. I love that Beyond the Forest is never identified by name, basically allowing them to adopt the line as their own, with a vast majority of people only associating the line with Taylor rather than Davis. |
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, you have Scream, which was the same thing, although not nearly to that extreme.
