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Post by Martin Stett on Aug 6, 2018 17:17:17 GMT
Before Midnight (2013) -- The trilogy is all grown up and mean and cynical and ugly. I like it. 7/10
Thor: The Dark World (2013) -- This doesn't deserve the reputation as one of the worst Marvel movies. It's dumb, the villain is a disaster (poor Christopher Eccleston deserves better), but it has a lot of fun banter and it at least attempts to make the stakes matter. I could listen to a whole movie of Loki and Thor arguing about how to fly a spaceship, really. 6/10
Thor: Ragnarok (2017) -- Damn you, Marvel. I gave you a chance, and you repay me with more of your market tested, glib one liners and "zaniness" and none of it is funny. Loki is given nothing to do. LOKI!!! Only the brief appearance of Anthony Hopkins goofing off at the beginning when Loki disguises as his dad is when the character can loosen up and have fun. The vast majority of "humor" is stupid, winking crap like "the Revengers" or jokes about Hulk's penis (REALLY, GUYS!?). The plot suffers from the same "split the narrative" problem as GotG 2 and The Last Jedi, and I really wish that Hollywood would catch on that this crap DOESN'T WORK. It feels like every other damn Marvel movie, and that's why I can't get behind it. That said, there are a couple of solid laughs (Anthony Hopkins playing Loki, Banner jumping out of the spaceship), and despite my faults with the film, I'm more annoyed by it than anything. It just feels like a waste of my time. 4/10
Garden Party (2017) -- I guess that saying that Donald Trump is evil without anything to back you up and no arguments whatsoever can score you an Oscar nod now. Not saying that I disagree, but does anyone see an echo chamber here? 3/10
Lou (2017) -- Cute enough little short, if unambitious. 6/10
The Prophet (2014) -- I haven't read the book, but THIS IS NOT HOW YOU GO ABOUT ADAPTING POETRY. The poems are shoehorned in without context, made into crappy short films with downright horrible indie music, or they simply drag on interminably in some sort of modernist depiction of... hell if I know. The framing device is needless handholding as well. The whole thing made me want to gag. 2/10
Everybody Wants Some!! (2016) -- I wasn't expecting to enjoy this so much. Frat boy partying really isn't my thing at all, but this was so sweet-natured, the acting so honest, that I was swept away in the goofiness of it all. It's a little forgettable, but enjoyable in the moment. 7/10
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Post by mhynson27 on Aug 6, 2018 17:38:50 GMT
Mission: Impossible- Ghost Protocol (re-watch) Mission: Impossible- Fallout The Killing of a Sacred Deer (re-watch)
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Post by notacrook on Aug 6, 2018 17:43:24 GMT
Pride - 8.5/10 The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (US, re-watch) - 9/10 Moulin Rouge! (re-watch) - 2.5/10
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Aug 6, 2018 17:48:56 GMT
Mission Impossible Fallout - Plotwise it's probably a bit confusing, but I don't go to these films for integral plots, I go to them for the action, and this one delivers. It's very entertaining from start to finish, and to see Cruise in his 50's still doing his own stunts is just amazing. Dude's a real pro. The few fights in this film in particular are quite excellent, and terrifically choreography, as well - 8 / 10
The End of The Tour - Can't believe it's taking me this long to watch this. This is fantastic. - 8.5 / 10
A Most Violent Year - 8 / 10
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Post by stephen on Aug 6, 2018 21:04:06 GMT
The Black Dahlia - Liked many things about it. Including Kirshner and Swank being totally awesome. They were so good at capturing old personas... but in Kirshner's case, it's more her soul which was really on display here. Don't hate the hate for Swank here at all, it feels like some people just dunno what they're talking about. The film had a decent era, but ultimately it's not great. 7/10 Okay, let's talk. Mia Kirshner is my all-time #2 for Supporting Actress for this performance. It's one of the most haunting performances I've ever seen, like witnessing a ghost in an old photograph. It's incredible that the Elizabeth Short character is largely an afterthought in the source novel and original script, and that Brian De Palma suddenly got a burst of genius inspiration by deciding to use Kirshner, who was helping him with auditions at the time, as Elizabeth Short. The screen tests are the film's best moments. The scene where she gives her rendition of Scarlett O'Hara's "As God is my witness" speech in that hideous Southern patois, and then it suddenly switches from laughable to heartbreaking in the span of a single sentence gives me chills. When she tells the director (De Palma himself!) about her old boyfriend dying in a plane crash, and you can tell she's making that shit up as she's going along but at the same time actually believing it . . . it's incredible to behold.But then there's the problem, and it's Swank. She's not only miscast in the role of a femme fatale, but she also looks absolutely nothing like Kirshner. I don't understand why De Palma didn't realize that he could easily use Kirshner for this role as well. She's gifted at playing femme fatales as it is, and it would really highlight the doppelgänger aspect of it all. Plus it would've granted Mia far more screentime.
I think the film is better than its rep suggests, particularly on a technical level. It's got the most sumptuous noir cinematography I've ever seen (it's my 2006 win over the likes of Children of Men and Pan's Labyrinth), its jazzy score evokes a bygone era to an eerie degree (also my win), and the costumes are just excellent. I just wish that De Palma had resisted some of his trashier impulses, cast Kirshner in the Swank role, and not butchered the film's three-hour cut in post.
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Post by Mattsby on Aug 6, 2018 21:05:26 GMT
Scum (1979) - brutally great. Awesome performance by a young Ray Winstone and a great ensemble overall. 8/10 Oooh I gotta see this. Another from Alan Clarke - have you seen The Firm from '89, Gary Oldman...? It's on PRIME - !! pacinoyes brought it to my attention, he's mentioned it before. I've seen it a few times now, it's only 70m, one of Oldman's best perfs, really strong film too, crackling pace.... it smartly warps Britain's middle class malaise thru the lens of competitive sports culture, breeding in adults an enraged adolescent glee out of running violently amok.
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Post by urbanpatrician on Aug 6, 2018 21:29:38 GMT
The Black Dahlia - Liked many things about it. Including Kirshner and Swank being totally awesome. They were so good at capturing old personas... but in Kirshner's case, it's more her soul which was really on display here. Don't hate the hate for Swank here at all, it feels like some people just dunno what they're talking about. The film had a decent era, but ultimately it's not great. 7/10 Okay, let's talk. Mia Kirshner is my all-time #2 for Supporting Actress for this performance. It's one of the most haunting performances I've ever seen, like witnessing a ghost in an old photograph. It's incredible that the Elizabeth Short character is largely an afterthought in the source novel and original script, and that Brian De Palma suddenly got a burst of genius inspiration by deciding to use Kirshner, who was helping him with auditions at the time, as Elizabeth Short. The screen tests are the film's best moments. The scene where she gives her rendition of Scarlett O'Hara's "As God is my witness" speech in that hideous Southern patois, and then it suddenly switches from laughable to heartbreaking in the span of a single sentence gives me chills. When she tells the director (De Palma himself!) about her old boyfriend dying in a plane crash, and you can tell she's making that shit up as she's going along but at the same time actually believing it . . . it's incredible to behold.But then there's the problem, and it's Swank. She's not only miscast in the role of a femme fatale, but she also looks absolutely nothing like Kirshner. I don't understand why De Palma didn't realize that he could easily use Kirshner for this role as well. She's gifted at playing femme fatales as it is, and it would really highlight the doppelgänger aspect of it all. Plus it would've granted Mia far more screentime.
I think the film is better than its rep suggests, particularly on a technical level. It's got the most sumptuous noir cinematography I've ever seen (it's my 2006 win over the likes of Children of Men and Pan's Labyrinth), its jazzy score evokes a bygone era to an eerie degree (also my win), and the costumes are just excellent. I just wish that De Palma had resisted some of his trashier impulses, cast Kirshner in the Swank role, and not butchered the film's three-hour cut in post.Oh, I absolutely agree with your overview of Kirshner. That's one of the best assessments I've read about a performance. I loved those "As God as my witness" echos coming from her. As far as delivering that goes, Vivien Leigh can suck Kirshner's dick. I strongly disagree with you on Swank though. Maybe because I never understood the definition of the term "femme fatale." I always felt it was one of the most vaguely used catchterms that I have difficulty pinpointing the meaning. While Kirshner had depth and soul, Swank was simply an appealing wavy-haired character, an embodiment of an old persona. And if you ask me, based on what Swank showed here, she easily should've played Blanchett's role in The Aviator. She can do a Hepburn voice better than Blanchett. But don't mind me, I just have a white soft spot for that girl, and I never understood the hate she gets. As far as your suggestion of Kirshner playing double parts go........well that's obviously a personal take of yours.... but if you ask me, if anyone's miscast, it's ScarJo. Children of Men had a very lively and visual feel to it, but The Black Dahlia had a certain evocation to it that makes it a formidable opponent in the Best Cinematography category even against Lubezki. It felt like a fine silky night and the tone is just right.
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Post by stephen on Aug 6, 2018 21:46:02 GMT
Oh, I absolutely agree with your overview of Kirshner. That's one of the best assessments I've read about a performance. I loved those "As God as my witness" echos coming from her. As far as delivering that goes, Vivien Leigh can suck Kirshner's dick. I strongly disagree with you on Swank though. Maybe because I never understood the definition of the term "femme fatale." I always felt it was one of the most vaguely used catchterms that I have difficulty pinpointing the meaning. While Kirshner had depth and soul, Swank was simply an appealing wavy-haired character, an embodiment of an old persona. And if you ask me, based on what Swank showed here, she easily should've played Blanchett's role in The Aviator. She can do a Hepburn voice better than Blanchett. But don't mind me, I just have a white soft spot for that girl, and I never understood the hate she gets. As far as your suggestion of Kirshner playing double parts go........well that's obviously a personal take of yours.... but if you ask me, if anyone's miscast, it's ScarJo. Children of Men had a very lively and visual feel to it, but The Black Dahlia had a certain evocation to it that makes it a formidable opponent in the Best Cinematography category even against Lubezki. It felt like a fine silky night and the tone is just right. I mean, if Swank worked for you, awesome. I really enjoyed Fiona Shaw's kooky, campy-as-all-hell performance as Ramona, even if I think that it was absolutely the wrong call. But dammit, if De Palma's going down that road, I'm on board with it. I just didn't think Swank had any real sizzle to her, anything that didn't feel like a sensual old-school noir feeling. She felt like a little girl that got in her mother's evening wear and was trying so hard to be convincing, but it was just utterly laughable. Maybe she would've been a good Hepburn. But she was, in my view, a poor Madeleine Linscott. Johansson isn't anything special (although she has a fantastic period-appropriate look to her), but the role itself doesn't really lend itself to much, so she doesn't really get hampered by it. But Madeleine is such a key character in the whole mystery, and the dearth of chemistry between her and Hartnett make the whole concept that he would obstruct justice to protect her wholly unbelievable. But that's me. Have you read the novel, by any chance? It's excellent, and you'll see that there were so many things that De Palma got almost right, but he was a few degrees off from where he should've aimed.
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Post by DeepArcher on Aug 6, 2018 22:03:20 GMT
This week wasn't too interesting for me as it was mostly re-watches ... though I did have first-time viewings of Certified Copy and Stop Making Sense, both of which are masterful.
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Post by stephen on Aug 6, 2018 22:36:47 GMT
Have you read the novel, by any chance? It's excellent, and you'll see that there were so many things that De Palma got almost right, but he was a few degrees off from where he should've aimed. I haven't, but to start.... L.A. Confidential and Killer on the Road is higher on my to-read-list. The former is mostly because of how much I've always loved the film. You are in for an utter treat with Ellroy. I'd suggest reading The Black Dahlia first. Ellroy's L.A. Quartet demands to be read in sequence, because characters from one book will crop up in another, and it is an over-arching storyline. Not only is it fascinating to watch Ellroy's style evolve from beautifully evocative, gloriously introspective prose to a punchy, razor-sharp style that makes Hemingway look like Faulkner, but it'll set up the dominoes that will topple into Ellroy's real masterwork: the Underworld U.S.A. trilogy. Also, L.A. Confidential is going to be so much fun when you read it, because the adaptation is one of the all-time greats, seeing how Hanson and Helgeland distilled a byzantine grand guignol saga that spanned a full decade into a simpler (but not simple) tale over a three-week period. I can't tell you which is the better rendition of the story, because both are so distinct and the film takes so many liberties that still feel in the spirit of Ellroy.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Aug 6, 2018 23:55:01 GMT
Avengers: Infinty War Rampage Collateral Mission Impossible: Fallout
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Post by Pavan on Aug 7, 2018 7:12:52 GMT
Beasts of the Southern Wild (2012)- 7.5/10 Stardust Memories (1980)- 7/10 House of Sand and Fog (2003)- 7/10
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Aug 7, 2018 18:38:13 GMT
Victim (1961) - this one broke my heart. The story is about a successful closeted gay barrister (played by Dirk Bogarde) who finds himself embroiled in a blackmail conspiracy which spells scandal and personal ruin at a time in the UK when homosexuality was still illegal. I didn't realize until after watching it that Dirk Bogarde was a closeted gay man himself, which added another devastating level of bravery to this already beautiful and heartbreaking performance. During a scene in which his wife confronts him about her suspicions, you can see in his face and hear in his voice the pain of a man desperately trying to stifle an aspect of himself that he hates and doesn't understand. You get a very real, authentic sense of a person struggling with their identity and what it means for their relationships, their perceptions, their self-image, and their place in society. When he finally comes to terms with it at the end, he also comes to terms with the fact that he's going to be reviled. "They're going to call me filthy names," he says resignedly. "My friends are going to lower their eyes and my enemies say they always guessed." It's heartbreaking. 9/10
The Stunt Man (1980) - I had so much good will for this one coming off the first two acts because the filmmaking is so frenetic and fun and Peter O'Toole is a force of nature, but it loses its way toward the end and climax is pretty unsatisfying. Some critics noted the the film is technically clever but thematically vacant, and I kinda agree. It's a movie about making movies, and it doesn't say anything new or surprising about that process. But yeah, this is my second favorite O'Toole performance ever so it's worth a watch for that alone. And then there's Barbara Hershey, just being flawless. 7.5/10
Killer Joe (2012) - this is some deep-fried Southern Gothic pulpy noir lowbrow trash, and I kinda loved it. McConaughey and Gershon get a ton of praise (deservedly so) but Thomas Haden Church doesn't get nearly enough credit for delivering most of the film's dark humor. I get that the movie's trashiness and violence and apparent classism is why some people hate it, but I don't know. It just spoke to my deeply cynical sense of humor. Anyone want some fried chicken? 8/10
Raging Bull (1980) - I didn't "get" this movie. I watched it years ago and didn't think much of it so recently I figured I should give it another shot because and see if I felt differently. But nope, still nothing. I respect the film from a technical standpoint (cinematography, editing, Scorsese's visceral directing -- yeah that's all fantastic), I just don't get the screenplay is trying to convey with this story. I don't get the point. From a narrative perspective, the movie is quite bare-bones. I don't know who La Motta is, what makes him tick, or why he is the way that he is, and without knowing those things I can't be bothered to care about his general cuntiness. There's zero backstory and practically no context for his rage, at least not provided by the film. Lindsay Anderson's This Sporting Life is another film about a rage-fueled member of the working class who throws himself into competitive sport as the only available avenue to feel some control over his life. The rage in that film is much more palpable than in Raging Bull where La Motta's class and social status are just window-dressing. Also window-dressing is Cathy Moriarty as La Motta's battered wife. The movie only really sees that character through La Motta's eyes, which effectively reduces her to object status. The audience is never invited to understand her, only to passively sympathize with her as one would a dog that's being kicked, because she has zero agency both in the screenplay and in the world her character inhabits. She exists in the film for the sole purposes of taking abuse and driving a wedge between La Motta and his brother. The script uses her and then throws her out, perhaps in a case of art imitating life. I'd have less of a problem with this if it wasn't so endemic to Scorsese's filmography. His female characters often feel like missed opportunities and that has never been more true than in this film. 6.5/10
Private Benjamin (1980) - another Goldie Hawn performance I love in a movie I hate. This is becoming a pattern. 5/10
Life of Pi (2012) - maybe I'm too cynical to appreciate this movie's fortune cookie spirituality, but fuuuuck what a dull film. I love you Ang Lee, but this movie was like going back to church. No thank you. 5/10
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Post by Martin Stett on Aug 7, 2018 19:07:17 GMT
Raging Bull (1980) - I didn't "get" this movie. I watched it years ago and didn't think much of it so recently I figured I should give it another shot because and see if I felt differently. But nope, still nothing. I respect the film from a technical standpoint (cinematography, editing, Scorsese's visceral directing -- yeah that's all fantastic), I just don't get the screenplay is trying to convey with this story. I don't get the point. From a narrative perspective, the movie is quite bare-bones. I don't know who La Motta is, what makes him tick, or why he is the way that he is, and without knowing that I honestly don't care about his general cuntiness. There's zero backstory and practically no context for his rage. Lindsay Anderson's This Sporting Life is another film about a rage-fueled member of the working class who throws himself into competitive sport as the only avenue to feel some control over his life. The rage in that film is much more palpable than in Raging Bull where La Motta's class and social status are just window-dressing. Also treated like window-dressing is Cathy Moriarty as La Motta's battered wife. The movie only really sees that character through La Motta's eyes, which effectively reduces her to object status. The audience is never invited to understand her, only to passively sympathize with her as one would a dog that's being kicked, because she has zero agency both in the screenplay and in the world her character inhabits. She exists in the film for the sole purposes of taking abuse and driving a wedge between La Motta and his brother. The script uses her and then throws her out, perhaps in a case of art imitating life. I'd have less of a problem with this if it wasn't so endemic to Scorsese's filmography. His female characters often feel like missed opportunities and that has never been more true than in this film. 6.5/10 Preach. At least Pesci is fantastic in this movie, and the techs are great.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Aug 7, 2018 19:12:03 GMT
Preach. At least Pesci is fantastic in this movie, and the techs are great. I will never not love a Pesci-Scorsese pairing.
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Post by Mattsby on Aug 7, 2018 19:53:00 GMT
Private Benjamin (1980) - another Goldie Hawn performance I love in a movie I hate. This is becoming a pattern. 5/10
Just curious, have you seen Swing Shift from '84...? Very underrated movie I think with one of my fav Hawn perfs (though I'm not really a fan). It had a really troubled production and wasn't a success but I feel like it deserves more attention. Whole cast is great, strong script, interesting time period, female centric......
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Aug 7, 2018 19:58:57 GMT
Private Benjamin (1980) - another Goldie Hawn performance I love in a movie I hate. This is becoming a pattern. 5/10
Just curious, have you seen Swing Shift from '84...? Very underrated movie I think with one of my fav Hawn perfs (though I'm not really a fan). It had a really troubled production and wasn't a success but I feel like it deserves more attention. Whole cast is great, strong script, interesting time period, female centric...... Not yet but it's been on my radar a while. My favorite Hawn performance as of now is probably Shampoo. After that I can't decide between Butterflies Are Free (which I actually really like) and Cactus Flower. She's just adorable.
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Post by Mattsby on Aug 7, 2018 21:13:39 GMT
Just curious, have you seen Swing Shift from '84...? Very underrated movie I think with one of my fav Hawn perfs (though I'm not really a fan). It had a really troubled production and wasn't a success but I feel like it deserves more attention. Whole cast is great, strong script, interesting time period, female centric...... The version that was taken away from Demme and butchered? His original cut is apparently a masterpiece... hope it will somehow see the light of day in decent quality eventually... His original cut is online actually, in VHS quality. I haven't seen it but understand that the studio cut (supervised by Goldie Hawn) is glossier and lighter in tone, trims the smaller characters so it at least appears to focus more on the Hawn character who is also softened in a few reshot scenes which really aren't that bad. The worse foul is they cut out a whole subplot of Holly Hunter's character! Nevertheless, I thought the present version works just fine and in fact slyly builds and deepens its themes up to an affecting, bittersweet conclusion. Lahti's standout performance sorta improves the whole thing anyway actually.
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Aug 8, 2018 12:19:36 GMT
Just Return to OZ, which I've seen many times before, and still adore. It is a brilliant film, completely under-seen and underrated. The visuals are fantastic, the score is gorgeous and the performances superior overall to those in Wizard of Oz. Also, parts of it are genuinely creepy. I could see children who scare easily, being terrified of this film. Mombi and her many heads...chilling for real.
I would easily put this in that bracket with Godfather Part II, Toy Story 2 & 3, Aliens, Batman Returns and others as one of the greatest sequels ever. Another winner from 1985, which possibly has the most high quality, entertainment films of any year.
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Post by Martin Stett on Aug 8, 2018 19:28:25 GMT
Just Return to OZ, which I've seen many times before, and still adore. It is a brilliant film, completely under-seen and underrated. The visuals are fantastic, the score is gorgeous and the performances superior overall to those in Wizard of Oz. Also, parts of it are genuinely creepy. I could see children who scare easily, being terrified of this film. Mombi and her many heads...chilling for real. I would easily put this in that bracket with Godfather Part II, Toy Story 2 & 3, Aliens, Batman Returns and others as one of the greatest sequels ever. Another winner from 1985, which possibly has the most high quality, entertainment films of any year. I dig that 80's Disney was approached by Walter Murch with the pitch of "I want to make a Wizard of Oz/Mad Max crossover set in an insane asylum" and Disney forked over all of the money.
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