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Post by mhynson27 on Jul 1, 2018 14:17:23 GMT
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jul 1, 2018 14:30:00 GMT
A hilariously obvious antagonist, a script and direction that are all over the place, and an ending that's just as believable as Amy's sanity.
Carrie Coon and Ben Affleck are pretty great, though.
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Post by Archie on Jul 1, 2018 15:21:10 GMT
Not good, Jim.
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Post by bob-coppola on Jul 1, 2018 15:29:12 GMT
One of my favorite movies of the century. I get the whole "oh, I saw the twist coming" complaint, but I just don't agree with it at all. The twist on Amy's real personality is just so much richer than something to surprise the viewer. It happens more to put a new spin on the story and start a new chapter than to actually blow minds, and that's why the picture works so well on rewatch.
The screenplay is aces, mixing the whole feminist argument with the thriller aspect, the satire elements and the unexpected humor - I mean, who could tell this pulpy story to have so many moments of lightness? Fincher's directing is as good as in The Social Network and Dragon Tattoo, he's really mastering the arts of building dread and suspense.
My only complaint is due to Pike's (and Fincher's) choices to perform Amy, because it diverges a lot from what was on the book. Book Amy was laid-back, girl-in-the-rom-com type of gal. I think someone like Rachel McAdams would nail the part because she already kind of played both Amy's personalities on About Time and Mean Girls, and she's naturally a sweetheart. I still think Pike was great, because it was obvious that the movie was going for a different thing than the book - I just wish they would've stuck to Flynn's initial vision.
The book has so much that's been left out (I'm not complaining) that I wish that in 10 years it could get the limited series treatment.
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Jul 1, 2018 15:57:17 GMT
I think that I wish I'd never seen it. One of the great let downs of recent times.
The book is a super fun read for sure.
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Post by jakesully on Jul 1, 2018 16:33:22 GMT
Its a nasty film that I quite like. The best scene is the one involving a box cutter . still haunts me to this day . solid 8/10
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Post by urbanpatrician on Jul 1, 2018 16:44:29 GMT
Don't think it's a POS like it's often bashed on this board for being. But no, not that great. Where do I even start though? There's so much to say.
Watching Basic Instinct and seeing how Verhoeven understands that genre just proves what happens when Fincher gets out of his element.
Speaking of out of his element, his handling of marital life.... omg. It's just so hard to buy that couple as believeable. They seem to be two pieces of orange pulp having some crazy fights, highly exaggerated at that.
This whole project just seems to not play to Fincher's strengths. I never thought high pulp was Fincher's thing. But the script is good, if not translated quite as you would imagine - and tries to piece together a heck of a lot of things together. The obsessive media (even though that's so 90s), Emily Ratajkowski as a dumb brunette, and the Neil Patrick Harris bit was positively the funniest single stand-alone tangents of the year. (dont mean that as a bad thing though) There is also some treading into Steve McQueen territory - and that's not a good thing - having Ben Affleck portrayed as some super male bachelor and inserting some really silly impulses he has to dig deep into some psychosexual territory, this all happening in some manufactured quasi-urban environment....eck.
There's a lot to enjoy in this if I fail to take it seriously, but as an overall film there's just so much wrong with it. I'm not even sure if I'd take this over Benjamin Button and Dragon Tattoo. Only 2 films of his I can say for sure I like it more than is Panic Room (fun, but experimental Fincher) and The Game.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2018 16:56:29 GMT
A hilariously obvious antagonist, a script and direction that are all over the place, and an ending that's just as believable as Amy's sanity. Carrie Coon and Ben Affleck are pretty great, though. All of this except replace "Carrie Coon and Ben Affleck are pretty great" with "Carrie Coon and Ben Affleck weren't as awful as everything else about the movie was".
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Post by stabcaesar on Jul 1, 2018 17:43:24 GMT
I don't dislike it, but I don't particularly like it either. Pike had some great moments, but every other cast member was pretty crap.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jul 1, 2018 18:23:34 GMT
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Post by notacrook on Jul 1, 2018 19:18:00 GMT
Man, I was waiting for this. This board's general view of Gone Girl...whew. My #4 for the decade so far. It's a near-perfect mix of knowingly trashy pulp and genuinely dark and unsettling thriller, all centred around this gloriously toxic marriage between two awful people. Rosamund Pike gives my favourite performance of the decade so far, and Carrie Coon is my 2014 win for BSA.
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Post by AKenjiB on Jul 1, 2018 20:34:23 GMT
Guess I’m in the minority on this board but I love it, though I’ll admit to being a sucker for Fincher. I thought the characters were really interesting, the score by Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross was unsurprisingly amazing, the pacing is so good that I never felt bored for a second and it’s beautifully directed. I also enjoyed all of the performances. This might be my favorite Ben Affleck performance ever and Rosamund Pike and Carrie Coon are excellent as well.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Jul 2, 2018 2:21:03 GMT
It's fantastic. I love how bleak and trashy it gets, the characters are great, and the performances are for the most part fantastic (this is Ben Affleck's best role ever IMO, and Pike is terrific as well, even Tyler Perry is good for fuck sakes). One of Fincher's best. It's one of those films I've watched multiple times now, and it never gets old.
Also the Reznor / Ross score is great to play in the background when I'm going for a run.
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Post by stabcaesar on Jul 2, 2018 14:59:33 GMT
For those who say that the villain has no element of surprise ... am I the only one who feels that the obvious twist was intentional? I don't think the film (Idk about the book as I've never read it) ever wanted the audience to be surprised by Amy being a manipulative bitch. I've always felt that the audience was supposed to know that Amy Dunne was crazy from the very beginning and the reveal was never intended as a reveal. It was more like a change to Amy's POV and then we get to see exactly how OTT crazy she is.
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Post by Film Socialism on Jul 2, 2018 17:35:34 GMT
it's more of his "pulpy thriller stuff that good directors realize is campy trash" played out completely unironically, and the screenplay is the big thing to blame. but this one has some cool technical moments at least.
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