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Post by Mattsby on Jun 2, 2018 17:13:41 GMT
Who's your pick? Anybody missing?
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Post by JangoB on Jun 2, 2018 17:17:36 GMT
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Post by fiosnasiob on Jun 2, 2018 17:37:42 GMT
I voted for Matthew McConaughey as I think his body of performances is overall the most impressive out of any Hollywood actors during this decade and I'm really basing myself on only his 4 first years of this decade, then it goes really down but those 4 years are just golden, you can't beat it.
Love Pacino and he had fine TV works but he doesn't deserves to be on the list in my opinion, others are more deserving. Same thing for Steve Carell.
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Post by stephen on Jun 2, 2018 17:39:08 GMT
Joaquin Phoenix and Matthew McConaughey, quite handily. Daniel Day-Lewis's two performances are masterful but I don't quite feel right putting him at the top just for those two (although he definitely should be an option). The McConaissance alone is enough to speak for Matty Mac, and Phoenix is by far the most fascinating and mercurial actor working today.
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Post by Viced on Jun 2, 2018 17:42:51 GMT
Why in the hell is Steve Carell there?
Lots of guys missing, notably Gosling.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 2, 2018 17:43:33 GMT
I would say that it's Phoenix with nobody else being really close to him.
As fiosnasiob says on Pacino, it's not been a great decade for him but.............. then you look at it and he does have 3 great HBO movies, 3 at least very good performances (Danny Collins, Humbling, Manglehorn) and one out of left field sort of completely fascinating one (Salome/Wilde Salome). Like that is 7 important things in his worst decade between the ages of 70-80.......not many other guys have that regardless of age.
It's like I always say about him, you don't realize all he's done until you start thinking about it closely.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 2, 2018 17:48:51 GMT
Actually I guess Gosling is close and has racked up a pretty great range in his films - at one time he didn't look as impressive in total as he does now, some of the McConaissance I'm not a huge fan of although I like him - Magic Mike and Killer Joe are overrated turns to me............some of the stuff early in his career is underrated - Lone Star, Frailty etc
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Post by Mattsby on Jun 2, 2018 17:57:17 GMT
Why in the hell is Steve Carell there? Lots of guys missing, notably Gosling. Forgot about Gosling and wth I can't add names? - folks this is my first poll !! Carell is here mostly bc he's looking to have a big year and I wanted to get ahead of that. But anyway he has two seasons of The Office (if you wanna count 'em) and one of the very best lead performances of the decade in Foxcatcher, plus very solid work in The Big Short, Battle of the Sexes, Last Flag Flying...
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Post by stephen on Jun 2, 2018 17:59:55 GMT
Yeah, Gosling is definitely third if not second.
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Post by fiosnasiob on Jun 2, 2018 18:08:35 GMT
Gosling is one of the most defining actors of the decade, such a fun, varied and interesting works but I argue that there is no absolute knockout performances in his works, you need them to be on the list, at least to be undeniable, I don't think he is. I'm a fan tho.
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Post by stephen on Jun 2, 2018 18:15:53 GMT
Gosling is one of the most defining actors of the decade, such a fun, varied and interesting works but I argue that there is no absolute knockout performances in his works, you need them to be on the list, at least to be undeniable, I don't think he is. I'm a fan tho. I'd argue he's got one iconic performance already in Drive (it may not be a typical actor's showcase, but it's a performance that relies entirely on screen magnetism and presence, like the McQueens and Newmans of old; not a lot of actors today can match that), and I think his auteur game is second-to-none right now. He's got two strong works with Cianfrance, two outings with Refn (one of which wasn't well-received, I'll grant you), and he's worked with Villeneuve (in which he took my Best Actor win). His 2016 output alone is enough to show his range and diversity, and I'd also argue he should've been the Big Short nominee over Bale. In short, I think Gosling has phenomenal range and versatility, but his best skill is minimalism and restraint, which doesn't lend itself to being showy or garnering acting nominations.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Jun 2, 2018 18:21:51 GMT
Phoenix has owned this decade, but next up for me would be DiCaprio who I think has become the actor his stans all thought he was a decade ago.
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Post by fiosnasiob on Jun 2, 2018 18:42:59 GMT
Gosling is one of the most defining actors of the decade, such a fun, varied and interesting works but I argue that there is no absolute knockout performances in his works, you need them to be on the list, at least to be undeniable, I don't think he is. I'm a fan tho. I'd argue he's got one iconic performance already in Drive (it may not be a typical actor's showcase, but it's a performance that relies entirely on screen magnetism and presence, like the McQueens and Newmans of old; not a lot of actors today can match that), and I think his auteur game is second-to-none right now. He's got two strong works with Cianfrance, two outings with Refn (one of which wasn't well-received, I'll grant you), and he's worked with Villeneuve (in which he took my Best Actor win). His 2016 output alone is enough to show his range and diversity, and I'd also argue he should've been the Big Short nominee over Bale. In short, I think Gosling has phenomenal range and versatility, but his best skill is minimalism and restraint, which doesn't lend itself to being showy or garnering acting nominations. I think his perf in Drive can be associated with the word iconic but iconic doesn't necessarly translate to great, Marilyn Monroe has iconic performance. Not to dismiss Gosling's work by saying that but I don't think it's the knockout performance I talk about...one of the best performances of the decade or anything like that and nobody is crying over his oscar robbery for it (admitelly not a typical actors's showcase as you say but they also aren't crying for any others works he's done this decade), it's very good work using a lot of his strength as an actor and its greatly helped by Refn's awesome direction. He took your best actor win for a Villeneuve's movie ? Blade Runner 2049 ? Over DD-L ? You can have a lot of range and diversity and still not be a great actor (Jamie Foxx...), just like you can have a limited range and diversity and be a very great actor in my eyes. They are far from the most important things when I judge an actor and as I say before, I don't deny that when it comes to Gosling, same for his great choices of roles but to me, they aren't backed by "knockout performances".
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Post by stephen on Jun 2, 2018 18:56:21 GMT
I think his perf in Drive can be associated with the word iconic but iconic doesn't necessarly translate to great, Marilyn Monroe has iconic performance. Not to dismiss Gosling's work by saying that but I don't think it's the knockout performance I talk about...one of the best performances of the decade or anything like that and nobody is crying over his oscar robbery for it (admitelly not a typical actors's showcase as you say but they also aren't crying for any others works he's done this decade), it's very good work using a lot of his strength as an actor and its greatly helped by Refn's awesome direction. I don't necessarily think that people have to be crying for its Oscar robbery for it to be a great performance. It's a deceptively intricate performance, with so many emotions roiling under a mask of passivity. It's not flashy, which is what people who follow awards and cinephiles in general tend to gravitate toward, because they think he's not doing much on-screen. But they're wrong. He's not my win for it, but I do nominate him, and I think that it's the first performance of his that I can say without a doubt will be remembered fifty years from now as a pop-culture mainstay. (Things like The Believer and Half Nelson and even Blue Valentine will be seen more as hidden gems, I think.) He took it over Harry Dean Stanton and Joaquin Phoenix, too. Crazy world, eh? Last year was an embarrassment of riches in Best Actor. I mean, I guess it depends on your definition of "knockout." For me, Drive is a knockout because I never thought Gosling capable of that. The Place Beyond the Pines is a knockout. The Nice Guys is a knockout (comedy-wise) and should be getting cult-classic status and will hopefully open doors for Baby Goose in many more solid comedy vehicles. None of these are Freddie Quell-level or anything, but they are performances that reshaped my perspective on Gosling and made him a decade-defining performer.
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Post by fiosnasiob on Jun 2, 2018 19:13:29 GMT
Very crazy world !!!! But more power to you if you can truly connect and be totally impressed by what he has done this decade. Now I may sound like I don't really like him but as I say in my first message I'm a fan, watch anything he's doing, such a pleasure to watch that presence on screen.
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Post by Sharbs on Jun 2, 2018 19:22:37 GMT
The Phoenix & The Goose
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Post by Sharbs on Jun 2, 2018 19:25:32 GMT
CAn we get a Doc Sportello and Holland March movie please?
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Post by stephen on Jun 2, 2018 19:32:36 GMT
Very crazy world !!!! But more power to you if you can truly connect and be totally impressed by what he has done this decade. Now I may sound like I don't really like him but as I say in my first message I'm a fan, watch anything he's doing, such a pleasure to watch that presence on screen. Interestingly, I think that a lot of the stuff you and scrudpup generally praise Denzel Washington for, one can see the very same traits in Gosling. The way that both men developed a brand for playing cool, level-headed badasses show a remarkable parallel. The difference is that Gosling's gone the auteur route, whereas Washington is more mainstream. The only thing Gosling doesn't have is the stage rep, but there's still time for that. It speaks to an interesting discussion: who are the heirs to the current greats? I've heard Gyllenhaal argued as Denzel's heir, but could it be Gosling?
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Post by countjohn on Jun 2, 2018 20:34:09 GMT
To me it's Fassbender due to the combination of how consistent he's been with how prolific he's been. I might put DDL second, but it's hard to put him at no. 1 when he's only made two movies.
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Jun 4, 2018 12:30:14 GMT
Well Phoenix is probably the best actor on the list, but McConaughey has the best 2010s body of work on the list, so him.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jun 7, 2018 1:52:46 GMT
Voted for Joaquin, but DDL's two performances are among the decade's best. None of these other actors have reached those heights yet, though I suppose Phoenix came close with The Master. Gary Oldman also comes to mind. He was only in two meaningful projects but both performances were also decade highlights.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jun 7, 2018 6:10:58 GMT
Who's your pick? Anybody missing? Denzel Washington obviously. 3 oscar nominations, 2 Tony nominations and 1 Tony win is major. He"s certainly had a better 2010"s than Javier Bardem, who started out pretty strong, but had an impressive 5 year stretch of suck that made him a double Razzie nominee.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jun 7, 2018 6:17:46 GMT
Very crazy world !!!! But more power to you if you can truly connect and be totally impressed by what he has done this decade. Now I may sound like I don't really like him but as I say in my first message I'm a fan, watch anything he's doing, such a pleasure to watch that presence on screen. Interestingly, I think that a lot of the stuff you and scrudpup generally praise Denzel Washington for, one can see the very same traits in Gosling. The way that both men developed a brand for playing cool, level-headed badasses show a remarkable parallel. The difference is that Gosling's gone the auteur route, whereas Washington is more mainstream. The only thing Gosling doesn't have is the stage rep, but there's still time for that. It speaks to an interesting discussion: who are the heirs to the current greats? I've heard Gyllenhaal argued as Denzel's heir, but could it be Gosling? Gosling can play cool and level headed badasses, but he doesn't have Denzel"s rage. Washington is both fire and ice, and he mixes and matches depending on the role. But when he wants to go full-on volcanic, he can go into territory that I don't think Gosling is really capable of. Like Fences....
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Post by stabcaesar on Jun 7, 2018 6:22:18 GMT
Phoenix and it's not even close.
I don't like him that much but as far as résumé goes Jeremy Renner is probably a notch above a lot of the vote options. Despite being in the Marvel franchise, he still works with many industry favorite directors steadily.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 7, 2018 6:58:27 GMT
Who's your pick? Anybody missing? Denzel Washington obviously. 3 oscar nominations, 2 Tony nominations and 1 Tony win is major. He"s certainly had a better 2010"s than Javier Bardem, who started out pretty strong, but had an impressive 5 year stretch of suck that made him a double Razzie nominee. Bardem isn't really a guy who had "5 year stretch of suck" to me at all - he just hasn't had any hits and Razzie nominees/winners include like you know the best actors whoever lived because the Razzies aren't a real thing. I mean he wasn't the problem in mother! especially ............replace him with Phoenix or Gosling and well you know what I mean ................. Now does he deserve to be on this list with Phoenix and Gosling overall ..........well no, not so much but I haven't seen Everybody Knows either and no one says he's anything less than stellar in it, he's got Skyfall, and more than starting out the 2010s "pretty strong" he had the performance I rank as number 1 for this decade in world cinema Biutiful. That #1 does go a long way ..............
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