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Post by Sharbs on May 29, 2018 2:04:10 GMT
I liked this. It's my least favorite Star Wars. But Jesus Christ in a technology world they must not have adequate indoor lighting. Bradford Young's work on the few films I've seen has been great before this, but yikes it was horrible throughout the entire movie. Really a basic movie with nothing surprising in the slightest, but entertaining. 7/10
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on May 29, 2018 2:14:44 GMT
I liked this. It's my least favorite Star Wars. But Jesus Christ in a technology world they must not have adequate indoor lighting. Bradford Young's work on the few films I've seen has been great before this, but yikes it was horrible throughout the entire movie. Really a basic movie with nothing surprising in the slightest, but entertaining. 7/10 Young's work has seemed pretty divisive online, but I've noticed a couple people who've seen it twice saying how dim it looks might be due in part to the projection. Personally, I only found the first 20-25 minutes notably dark I try to see these major event films in Dolby to ensure the projection is always properly lit.
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Post by Sharbs on May 29, 2018 2:22:27 GMT
I liked this. It's my least favorite Star Wars. But Jesus Christ in a technology world they must not have adequate indoor lighting. Bradford Young's work on the few films I've seen has been great before this, but yikes it was horrible throughout the entire movie. Really a basic movie with nothing surprising in the slightest, but entertaining. 7/10 Young's work has seemed pretty divisive online, but I've noticed a couple people who've seen it twice saying how dim it looks might be due in part to the projection. Personally, I only found the first 20-25 minutes notably dark I try to see these major event films in Dolby to ensure the projection is always properly lit. its just dark as hell, especially in the airport scene I mean how is it that you can't see past 5 feet in a public place, I just think it was a weird choice. I'm kind of surprised it's as divisive as it is in that regard i thought it was pretty objectively terrible. Even on that sandy planet, it just doesn't feel like they knew how the sun or that sun works. I can't really explain but it looked hazy and the colors feel like a mix of whatever color it was and gray in every scene when there was supposed to color that is
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Post by bob-coppola on May 29, 2018 2:59:20 GMT
Saw it earlier today. Here's my long letterboxd review:
My sweet lord Jesus Christ, only you know how much I loathed this Solo movie. Han is simply my favorite Star Wars character, he's charming, fun and interesting, but somehow Ron Howard and Disney managed to make this the most boring, uninteresting and lifeless picture in the franchise.
When you hear they're making a prequel to explore the past of a beloved character, specially one with so many famous trademarks, you expect it to be a more character-based kind of flick. Not necessarily a character-study, but something that dedicates its main focus in letting audiences get to know the characters in order to flesh them out.
That is exactly the opposite of what Solo: A Star Wars Story is - a movie that seemingly has no interest in any of those people it portrays, but rather in a very generic heist plot and action sequences. The bad news is that this plot drags like hell, it's not exciting and the action pieces are dull. It's like they make everything more complicated than it needs to be as if they're banking that the audiences won't notice how bad it actually is.
Honestly? Solo shouldn't be a flavor-of-the-week action movie with some occasional western trope to make it look like it isn't some lazy plastic product. Han Solo is a character that's worshiped, it's only fair to make that goddamn 21 Jump Street-esq sitcom set in space that Lord & Miller meant to make. Do you have any idea of how *offensive* it is to have a movie about an iconic character and make it utterly unremarkable? I mean, other than unremarkably bad, of course.
The screenplay is what a garbage can would look like if it was made out of words, and it shows that the only reason the producers had it as some holy bible was because it's written by Lawrence Kasdan. Once in a while you see the attempt to make something more intimate or fun, but it falls flat as hell.
Also, the acting is so, so bland. It's like the cast has a black hole instead of charisma. Alden God-Knows-Who actually tries to emulate Ford's charm, and maybe he would have more success if the script wasn't so toxic. Clarke is a blank space, Thandie Newton is underused and, when she showed up, also quite bland, even Harrelson seemed to be forced to play a very worse version of his Hunger Games/Glass Castle/every character. The only shining light in this essemble is Donald Glover, who is so confident that he charms his way out of an onedimensional role, and Phoebe Waller Bridge who, with her voice only, composes the most human and charismatic character in the story.
Bradford Young's cinematography in the first act is so dark and mudy that it's actually ugly, but in some moments - like in a Lovecraftian-sequence or inside the Millenium Falcon cockpit - look very good as is usual of him.
Other than that, I'd just like to say that the cameo, franchise-setting and winking to the fans is beyond ridiculous. Are we supposed to believe they actually want to make a whole trilogy out of this burning mess that also has the lowest opening weekend for a Star Wars movie?
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Post by Mattsby on May 29, 2018 18:17:25 GMT
Well....if one sentence was gonna get me to see this movie, here it is from the cinematographer Bradford Young: “I met with Phil and Chris, and their constant reference was ‘McCabe & Mrs. Miller.' They said they were making a Western." and here's a tweet from yesterday:
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Post by theycallmemrfish on May 29, 2018 18:26:09 GMT
You know somewhere in a mega-mansion, Harrison Ford is just laughing his ass off right now.
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Post by JangoB on May 31, 2018 8:02:43 GMT
I had a pretty damn good time with this film. It did not really feel much like a 'Solo' movie to me but it worked quite well as 'A Star Wars Story'. In a way I think this might've been even better had it not been about Han at all - just a random space adventure with new characters would've sufficed. That way all the comparisons with Ford would've disappeared and there would be no need for the movie to constantly cram in unnecessary references and explanations of Solo's trademarks (the name reveal was lame and I wasn't really fond of how this movie kept forcing the dice upon us). But as a space western it was really very enjoyable and entertaining. I like Ron Howard and even though you can hardly call the project 'his baby', I appreciate the fact that he got to play with both the sci-fi and the western genres at the same time, and the combo worked well. There may be no strong personal voice behind this film but Howard is a good craftsman and he did a fine job with this. I also admire how it doesn't feel like a product of separate minds even though it kinda is - despite all the behind the scenes trouble the film always felt consistent to me. I'm of two minds about the aesthetic here - on the one hand, this drab look is not generally my thing and I thought the film lacked some truly spectacular images which is not a problem I had with SW films before. However, the grounded hand-held approach seemed to have fit the story pretty well and was a nice departure from the usual SW look (which I still find more preferable). All the other tech aspects were as usual excellent. John Powell's score was decent (the only thing I was not sure about were the choral bits during the marauder appearances) and the new John Williams theme was pretty good. I was really not a fan of the final surprise though. It's not even that it is such an obvious and shameless attempt to set up sequels which now may not even happen given the box office of this one. My problem is twofold: First off, it just felt like a big 'HEY, MEMBER THAT CHARACTER FROM THAT MOVIE??? DON'T YOU LOVE IT WHEN WE SHOW STUFF FROM THE PAST?' kind of a deal. I was totally willing to go with the nostalgia of "The Force Awakens" when it came about but several other SW movies happened since then and now the nostalgia game is getting old.
But more importantly, the way this reveal undoes the impact of his death in "Phantom Menace" is just lame. Darth Maul was a fun side-villain and it was very satisfying to see him get his comeuppance after he killed a good character but this damn movie just goes 'Oh hey, btw, he didn't die. Lol, bye!' and I do not like it when these franchises get so liberal about resurrecting characters - this makes any sense of stakes just evaporate. I prefer my dead characters to stay dead, thank you. Or at least bring them back as force ghosts or something. But this plain resurrection opens up possibilities that I do not like. Hey, let's bring Mace Windu back while we're at it, let's bring them all back! I think this was a misstep. But when with those gripes in mind I had a really good time with the film. Enjoyed its rhythm, highly enjoyed the strong western feeling it had, and was reasonably entertained.
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Post by Miles Morales on May 31, 2018 9:45:13 GMT
But more importantly, the way this reveal undoes the impact of his death in "Phantom Menace" is just lame. Darth Maul was a fun side-villain and it was very satisfying to see him get his comeuppance after he killed a good character but this damn movie just goes 'Oh hey, btw, he didn't die. Lol, bye!' Actually the canon Clone Wars and Rebels animated shows kept Darth Maul alive.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on May 31, 2018 14:19:39 GMT
But more importantly, the way this reveal undoes the impact of his death in "Phantom Menace" is just lame. Darth Maul was a fun side-villain and it was very satisfying to see him get his comeuppance after he killed a good character but this damn movie just goes 'Oh hey, btw, he didn't die. Lol, bye!' Actually the canon Clone Wars and Rebels animated shows kept Darth Maul alive. I never understood the need for Star Wars to have an extended universe canon. It stifles the potential for creativity within the films when they must adhere to the canon of Season 3, Episode 7 of a TV show most film audience members did not see or this comic that damn near nobody has read, especially since the shows and comics need a sprinkling of ancillary film characters (*cough* Darth Maul *cough*) to draw interest. I'm fine with the shows existing, but can't they just be filler material and not absolutely essential elements of the universe just to keep up with what the hell is going on in the stuff that captures the widest audiences?
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Post by avnermoriarti on Jun 2, 2018 6:56:21 GMT
I think a way to find the positive side of this film is to see it as a way to introduce new audiences to the franchise and have a slight taste of what they can have if they like it, to me this film is like one of those breads you buy at Costco, it might "taste" like orange or whatever and you know you want a bite of it just because but ain't fine bakery. I saw it only for Ehrenreich and he didn't disappoint but mainly because it doesn't feel exactly like Han Solo and that comes from the eagerness to explain everything, in this case feels like we haven't get over "Han shot first" and they need to redeem him in this movie in such a stupid scene. It was a fine forgettable film, like everything Ron Howard does.
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Post by Pavan on Jun 2, 2018 16:27:56 GMT
Solo Co-Writer Confirms Anthony Ingruber Auditioned For Han Alden did a decent job but this guy looks so much like a young Harrison Ford. Such a missed opportunity.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jun 2, 2018 20:10:11 GMT
Solo Co-Writer Confirms Anthony Ingruber Auditioned For Han Alden did a decent job but this guy looks so much like a young Harrison Ford. Such a missed opportunity. I don’t think it’s fair or accurate to call it a missed opportunity. The guy auditioned for the role and they decided he wasn’t good enough to land it. It would be stupid to cast someone just because they look the part if they can’t back it up with a good performance.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Jun 11, 2018 23:43:32 GMT
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jun 12, 2018 0:14:10 GMT
Solo Co-Writer Confirms Anthony Ingruber Auditioned For Han Alden did a decent job but this guy looks so much like a young Harrison Ford. Such a missed opportunity. I don’t think it’s fair or accurate to call it a missed opportunity. The guy auditioned for the role and they decided he wasn’t good enough to land it. It would be stupid to cast someone just because they look the part if they can’t back it up with a good performance. Yeah. While the actor they do ultimately decide on *should* bear some resemblance to the previous actor(s), it should be based on their audition (or talent) above all else.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jan 11, 2019 22:49:17 GMT
So this was added to Netflix.
I'm terrified to watch this because even fans of TLJ (which I'm not) kinda disliked it... and if they can like TLJ and not like this, then I dunno what the hell to expect.
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Post by stephen on Jan 11, 2019 22:50:46 GMT
So this was added to Netflix. I'm terrified to watch this because even fans of TLJ (which I'm not) kinda disliked it... and if they can like TLJ and not like this, then I dunno what the hell to expect. It's better than Rogue One, but it's still an entirely unnecessary movie.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jan 11, 2019 22:54:33 GMT
So this was added to Netflix. I'm terrified to watch this because even fans of TLJ (which I'm not) kinda disliked it... and if they can like TLJ and not like this, then I dunno what the hell to expect. It's better than Rogue One, but it's still an entirely unnecessary movie. For me, Rogue One was a (much) lesser version of The Dirty Dozen and while I haven't seen it since I've seen TLJ, I at least remember it more fondly than I do TLJ. EDIT: I'm probably gonna do a double feature of this and Leave No Trace tomorrow (since I didn't get around to that last weekend... because The Dirty Dozen was actually added to Netflix too).
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Post by stephen on Jan 11, 2019 22:55:09 GMT
It's better than Rogue One, but it's still an entirely unnecessary movie. For me, Rogue One was a (much) lesser version of The Dirty Dozen and while I haven't seen it since I've seen TLJ, I at least remember it more fondly than I do TLJ. Well, take what I say with a grain of salt. I still maintain The Last Jedi is the best film in the entire franchise.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jan 11, 2019 22:56:22 GMT
For me, Rogue One was a (much) lesser version of The Dirty Dozen and while I haven't seen it since I've seen TLJ, I at least remember it more fondly than I do TLJ. Well, take what I say with a grain of salt. I still maintain The Last Jedi is the best film in the entire franchise. I CAN'T TRUST YOU AT ALL THEN! *spits*
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Jan 12, 2019 0:14:14 GMT
So this was added to Netflix. I'm terrified to watch this because even fans of TLJ (which I'm not) kinda disliked it... and if they can like TLJ and not like this, then I dunno what the hell to expect. Just don’t.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jan 12, 2019 1:27:04 GMT
So this was added to Netflix. I'm terrified to watch this because even fans of TLJ (which I'm not) kinda disliked it... and if they can like TLJ and not like this, then I dunno what the hell to expect. Just don’t. Don't tempt me, Frodo!
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jan 13, 2019 5:40:30 GMT
So I watched it.
I guess? It kinda just went in through one ear and out the other it seems. Such a damn shame because with the premise, they could have done A LOT of really cool things and instead they went the route of a bad Marvel movie. Shitty humor, bad character building, weird inclusions of random plot points that go nowhere, and the worst bit of all-- badddddddddd "twists" and with them worse conclusions to said twists. On a very superficial level, I'm not sure which I hated worse a squeaky voiced Han or Glover doing a Billy Dee Williams voice impression. Both were rather jarring to me. Either way, neither have a real effect on my rating. *1/2.
Maybe because I was expecting FAR worse, but for the most part it was just so blah that I can't vehemently hate it. Still, as much as I dislike TLJ, at least I did love the visuals and I LOVED the linking scenes between Rey and Kylo.
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Post by Martin Stett on Jan 13, 2019 5:57:13 GMT
I will say that the linking is the *one* thing TLJ did right. That stuff could have made for a great movie if Johnson had the balls to follow it through and focus on their relationship. I really just want to take the ideas of these movies and rewrite them to actually have focus instead of pointless plot jumping (thanks, Marvel!), "General Hugs" humor (thanks, Marvel!) and bathos (thanks, Marvel!).
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Post by clunkybob2 on Jan 13, 2019 17:19:14 GMT
Not that Solo is good, but I had a funny (and easy) argument about how Disney was “killing” Star Wars. All it took to win was to point out that *this* was a thing... Still better than the film
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Post by Martin Stett on Jan 13, 2019 18:51:45 GMT
That dance video is actually legit funny, so I'd be open to a movie of that.
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