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Post by Martin Stett on May 23, 2019 1:51:48 GMT
I'm playing the game for the first time. I only know the "DOUBT" meme, and I didn't even know it was from this game. I just finished the Adulterous Pig case. I'm still super confused about how this game works. My idea of "accusing someone of a lie" is very different from Cole's idea of "accusing someone of a lie murder you fucking dog" and it's a little frustrating that Cole's interrogation techniques are limited to "very good, I believe everything you say" and "BURN IN HELL FOR LYING TO ME." Look at your notebook before making any decision. It helps a ton. Also good to know is that you can back out of a lie accusation (and their response usually steers you into the right direction)... though, know that sometimes you can choose the "incorrect" lie, even if it proves they are lying. I can back out? I did not know that at all.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on May 23, 2019 2:15:25 GMT
Look at your notebook before making any decision. It helps a ton. Also good to know is that you can back out of a lie accusation (and their response usually steers you into the right direction)... though, know that sometimes you can choose the "incorrect" lie, even if it proves they are lying. I can back out? I did not know that at all. Only on lie... you can't undo a doubt or a truth.
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Post by Martin Stett on May 23, 2019 3:46:22 GMT
Okay, so I did the Consol's Car, which was kind of bullshit. Found all the clues, got a perfect Q&A with the car dealer... but the thief's girlfriend I only got two right. Uh, I'm pretty sure that storing stolen property is a crime, Rockstar! Anyway, calling her a liar and pointing out that she has a shitload of stolen goods on her property is wrong. But then at the end, I outted a consul as homosexual and a kiddie fiddler? Huh? That's news to me because I have no idea how that happened except for that one line of dialogue. lol. Damages - $1500. Fuckity fuck me. I think that's how I'll update this thread... case by case. I had a similar experience on this one. I completely screwed up on the Consul himself, apparently... I got everything right with the thief's girlfriend, though. What I don't understand is... um... the end. How was the Consul outted as a homosexual again? There really needs to be an option to... you know... fail. Because forcing a conclusion is just dumb.
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Post by stephen on May 23, 2019 13:20:19 GMT
Okay, so I did the Consol's Car, which was kind of bullshit. Found all the clues, got a perfect Q&A with the car dealer... but the thief's girlfriend I only got two right. Uh, I'm pretty sure that storing stolen property is a crime, Rockstar! Anyway, calling her a liar and pointing out that she has a shitload of stolen goods on her property is wrong. But then at the end, I outted a consul as homosexual and a kiddie fiddler? Huh? That's news to me because I have no idea how that happened except for that one line of dialogue. lol. Damages - $1500. Fuckity fuck me. I think that's how I'll update this thread... case by case. I had a similar experience on this one. I completely screwed up on the Consul himself, apparently... I got everything right with the thief's girlfriend, though. What I don't understand is... um... the end. How was the Consul outted as a homosexual again? There really needs to be an option to... you know... fail. Because forcing a conclusion is just dumb. I still have yet to play this case because it was DLC added later on, and I didn't get the package for it. So all of this is Greek to me. I'm just glad you're sticking with the game.
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Post by Martin Stett on May 24, 2019 4:24:38 GMT
Hey, I actually did "A Marriage Made in Heaven" correctly! It was a little too obvious, but at least I understood what I was supposed to do.
I didn't have time to play the next case, so I just hijacked people's cars and caused traffic... incidents... for the next 15 minutes.
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Post by Martin Stett on May 28, 2019 20:06:30 GMT
A Slip of the Tongue -- Never has the routine boredom of police work been so routine and boring. I missed a lot of questions, but maybe that's because there was a complete lack of drama to anything that happens in this shitty case.
The Fallen Idol -- DAMMIT, STOP REMINDING ME OF MOVIES THAT ARE BETTER THAN YOU COULD EVER DREAM OF BEING, L.A. NOIRE! Um. So anyway, the best part of this was watching Murkowski run down the stairs and run over a woman so hard that he rendered her unconscious... yeah. So the case itself. Um. It was... dull. The P.O.I.'s are all equally devoid of personality (I'm noticing a trend), the fight scenes are just as bad as... um... every other fight scene in this game... Oh, and I've been reassigned to Homicide. That's good, I guess. Maybe I'll have a partner with more personality than a plank of wood. Unlikely, as I've met planks of wood that are better conversation than Cole Phelps, and he's the protagonist.
Am I sounding like I dislike this game? Because I dislike this game. I'm gonna give it a few more cases, but boy oh boy is it boring. Still better than Red Dead Redemption. Maybe I just despise Rockstar's style?
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Post by theycallmemrfish on May 28, 2019 20:21:53 GMT
A Slip of the Tongue -- Never has the routine boredom of police work been so routine and boring. I missed a lot of questions, but maybe that's because there was a complete lack of drama to anything that happens in this shitty case. The Fallen Idol -- DAMMIT, STOP REMINDING ME OF MOVIES THAT ARE BETTER THAN YOU COULD EVER DREAM OF BEING, L.A. NOIRE! Um. So anyway, the best part of this was watching Murkowski run down the stairs and run over a woman so hard that he rendered her unconscious... yeah. So the case itself. Um. It was... dull. The P.O.I.'s are all equally devoid of personality (I'm noticing a trend), the fight scenes are just as bad as... um... every other fight scene in this game... Oh, and I've been reassigned to Homicide. That's good, I guess. Maybe I'll have a partner with more personality than a plank of wood. Unlikely, as I've met planks of wood that are better conversation than Cole Phelps, and he's the protagonist. Am I sounding like I dislike this game? Because I dislike this game. I'm gonna give it a few more cases, but boy oh boy is it boring. Still better than Red Dead Redemption. Maybe I just despise Rockstar's style? Weirdly enough no matter where you get transferred to, you're almost always dealing with a murder (or at least a supposed murder)... agree 100% about the game's action being pretty unspectacular, but I really dug the story. Phelps gets way better as the game progresses, the cases start to deal with the overall story more and more, and I think the partner dynamics get better (Rusty is my favorite of them all). But obviously you're not feeling the game by now, I think you should give it a few Homicide cases before you decide to quit it.
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Post by stephen on May 28, 2019 20:22:15 GMT
Things pick up once you get to Homicide.
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Post by Martin Stett on May 30, 2019 15:21:12 GMT
Homicide is certainly a lot better. Many of my previous complaints still stand and they aren't exactly absent (in fact, they're conspicuously still hampering my enjoyment), but these cases actually feel like they're going somewhere. Anyway, I blew my day off playing this game with three cases.
The Red Lipstick Murder -- Nothing too special here, but Rusty is SOOOOOO MUCH BETTER THAN MURKOWSKI. This is mainly about getting to know the new partner/plotline, but I'm okay with that. We need to get an actual plot in here, we're several hours too late starting. The case itself is kind of a mess, but I think that's going to be a running theme of Homicide. I put that guy in lockup and then investigate Alonso's place and BOOM THE MURDER WEAPON and I scratch my head and go "huh?" Well, it's linked to the loony bin somehow, I'm guessing. I don't think I'd get answers no matter what I did here.
The Golden Butterfly -- I'm pissed about how the game handled this. So I put two guys in lockup, and I speak to the husband. Before charging him, I decide to go speak to the molester, and I'm satisfied that he wasn't involved. I get up and SOMEONE LET MY DAMN PERP OUT OF LOCKUP, and then the school janitor fingers him right there in the station so the guy drives out of there and I have to engage in a stupid chase scene. What the hell, Rockstar? Just let me go and charge the bastard! Ugh.
The Silk Stocking Murder -- This case was the first one in the whole game that I'm truly satisfied with: The twists are pretty good, the link to the previous cases is interesting, the suspects make some sort of sense in their actions. I'm curious about that brown coupe that two different suspects mentioned seeing, but I didn't have a chance to question them closely about that because the Fruit Market guy tried to escape before I was done collecting evidence against him. Which I'm okay with, because it is clearly part of the larger plot that this game so desperately needs. Cliffhangers!
Stray thoughts:
-You can totally kill civilians with your car, Stephen. I was driving recklessly and slammed into a wall, pinning a pedestrian to it. When I pulled out, the guy flopped over and a puddle of blood formed underneath him. I had stolen the car anyway, so I booked it and left Murkowski to work that one out (I had over $15,000 in total damages IIRC).
-The homicide chief doing the Pete Postlethwaite impression is mixed way too quietly and I can't make out anything he says. It bothered me in the last case and becomes unbearable here. Between his accent and his getting drowned out by background noise I'm frustrated with his character.
-Cole is developing a little bit of a personality! He's got a touch of the boy scout to him and... that's pretty much it. But hey, it's something. Also gonna make a prediction that his wife is Japanese. Throwing that out there based on some of the war flashbacks, but I'm probably wrong.
-I had a dream last night in which I was trying on suits at a department store and asking my family how they looked, and then I was getting the option of "Truth/Doubt/Lie" on the right side of my vision.
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Post by Martin Stett on Jun 14, 2019 3:42:32 GMT
Meh, I finished the game. Not a fan, on the whole. My random notes: 1. Let's start with the positives. Arson is pretty great. They're fun cases, they link everything together nicely, and PHELPS GETS SIDELINED HALLELUJAH 2. The partners are pretty cool. I would have liked to see a game involving each of them solving cases and discovering bigger conspiracies as they moved along. Would have been better than Cole, who rivals Jacob from ME2 in being a black hole of charisma. Okay, that's not fair. He's still really bland and every other detective (save for maybe Murkowski) would have been more interesting. 3. A shame that the only desk that comes together is the final one. Traffic is just random, Homicide seems like it will go somewhere and then... doesn't, and Vice is a trainwreck of confusing writing that I wound up sequence breaking once (I wound up shooting "Finkelstein!" before I learned of his existence). 4. The real problem with the game is that it is on rails. There is no choice; the ones that are presented are laughably transparent in their lack of meaning. By this, I mean that in SEVERAL cases Cole winds up getting two guys in lockup and you can finger one or the other... but the audience knows that neither one is guilty, and there is never an option to investigate further. This is fine if you do it for story reasons once, but it happens at least twice in homicide and once in arson. The writers use the same damn trick at least THREE TIMES without variation, and then I'm playing a game of "which poorly written sap do I want to place the blame on even though this won't affect the larger story outside of maybe one line later on." There's no decision to be made, so why not just make this a movie or a novel? 4b. Because you'd get laughed out of the office when you handed over the script, nvm. 5. DLC needs to die. Why oh why is there a DLC case in the middle of Arson that completely disrupts the flow of the story for a random, shitty case that means nothing to anything? This game is about its (mediocre) story, so why stop the momentum for some nonsense in which MULTIPLE CITY BLOCKS ARE BLOWN UP AND NEVER MENTIONED AGAIN AFTER THIS CASE. It boggles the mind. 6. Action sequences are terrible, natch. There is also no reason not to drive on the sidewalk and hit pedestrians. In fact, there is every reason to do just that, since my car won't stop if I kill some schmuck taking a stroll but it will if I rear end another car. 7. Do I have anything positive to say about my experience? Well, Arson is awesome. The change into a story that actually begins tying together in a satisfying manner is so refreshing after the rest of the game failing. I do have to wonder why the bad guys film their secret meetings for use on newsreels, but whatever.
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Post by Archie on Feb 24, 2021 21:42:28 GMT
I'm really really liking the Vice desk so far. Roy is such a shitbag.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Feb 24, 2021 22:08:09 GMT
I'm really really liking the Vice desk so far. Roy is such a shitbag. Rusty was my favorite partner.
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Post by stephen on Feb 24, 2021 22:50:22 GMT
I'm really really liking the Vice desk so far. Roy is such a shitbag. Rusty was my favorite partner. Bekowsky was mine.
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Post by Archie on Feb 24, 2021 23:00:41 GMT
Rusty was my favorite partner. Bekowsky was mine. Not gonna lie, this made my jaw drop:
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Post by stephen on Feb 24, 2021 23:03:10 GMT
Not gonna lie, this made my jaw drop: That's my man Stefan.
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Post by Archie on Feb 25, 2021 23:14:40 GMT
BRILLIANT FUCKING ENDING. Kelso needs his own game.
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Post by stephen on Feb 26, 2021 0:17:40 GMT
BRILLIANT FUCKING ENDING. Kelso needs his own game. Damn right he does. Preferably one where Roy Earle gets his just desserts.
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