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Post by stephen on Jan 5, 2018 18:04:05 GMT
They should when they are married to/the daughter of someone who is an accused abuser (and who openly admitted to using his influence to take sexual advantage of women), who sits in the highest position of elected authority in the world. Particularly when one of Melania's touted "causes" is bullying. Because harassment of celebrities is more important than harassment of common people? And I wonder if Streep would expect to hear from first gentleman had Hillary Clinton been elected... It's not more important, but people do pay more attention because, well, people know who the celebrities are, and if they can shine a light on that particular facet of the industry, it could also galvanize "the common people" to stand up and speak about their own experiences. If Clinton had been elected, I'm sure there would be criticism lobbed at her husband, but the fact is that she isn't the President, so it's a non-issue. Trump is in the Oval Office, he has openly flaunted his sexual improprieties, and the fact that his wife and daughter have openly lambasted Hollywood for letting the likes of Weinstein get in while ignoring the criticism lobbed toward Trump. Their hypocrisy is what they are being called out for.
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Post by cherry68 on Jan 5, 2018 18:10:37 GMT
stephen The only thing that it's evident to me is Streep 's hypocrisy. She spoke against molesters only when she realized her silence was bad for her public image.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 20:56:15 GMT
OMG, why does this have to be about Meryl Streep?
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Jan 5, 2018 22:23:11 GMT
Your liberal bias is showing, Meryl Streep. Had this all happened during the Obama administration, I doubt she would be deflecting on to Michelle Obama. To be fair, Michelle Obama wasn't married to a man who willingly admitted to sexually harassing people. Michelle Obama's voice would be even more valuable as she wouldn't be hypocritically standing by someone doing that, so we'd take her seriously. But anyway Streep's claiming her reason for calling Melania and Ivanka out have to do with their voices being valuable due to their positions. My only point is she's deflecting due to political bias. Had we had Hillary in the oval office, would she have called her out given her husband has a history of accusations of that sort piled against him? I don't think so.
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Post by stephen on Jan 5, 2018 22:30:49 GMT
To be fair, Michelle Obama wasn't married to a man who willingly admitted to sexually harassing people. Michelle Obama's voice would be even more valuable as she wouldn't be hypocritically standing by someone doing that, so we'd take her seriously. But anyway Streep's claiming her reason for calling Melania and Ivanka out have to do with their voices being valuable due to their positions. My only point is she's deflecting due to political bias. Had we had Hillary in the oval office, would she have called her out given her husband has a history of accusations of that sort piled against him? I don't think so. I think she's not so much deflecting out of political bias but rather because she's in damage-control mode. And yes, while Michelle Obama's vocal support would be valuable, calling for the current First Lady and the daughter of the President of the United States to take a stand against sexual harassment in this particular presidency is understandable, as the shadow of Trump's accusations linger even as the likes of Weinstein and Spacey are being ousted from their own respective positions of power. Regardless, the narrative shouldn't be about Meryl Streep in the first place.
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Jan 5, 2018 22:33:18 GMT
OMG, why does this have to be about Meryl Streep? I do think too much ire is being focused on Meryl Streep right now. Sure she might be a little hypocritical or full of shit like most of these Hollywood people, but there are people who were far more complicit in Weinstein's crimes.
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Jan 5, 2018 22:44:43 GMT
Michelle Obama's voice would be even more valuable as she wouldn't be hypocritically standing by someone doing that, so we'd take her seriously. But anyway Streep's claiming her reason for calling Melania and Ivanka out have to do with their voices being valuable due to their positions. My only point is she's deflecting due to political bias. Had we had Hillary in the oval office, would she have called her out given her husband has a history of accusations of that sort piled against him? I don't think so. I think she's not so much deflecting out of political bias but rather because she's in damage-control mode. And yes, while Michelle Obama's vocal support would be valuable, calling for the current First Lady and the daughter of the President of the United States to take a stand against sexual harassment in this particular presidency is understandable, as the shadow of Trump's accusations linger even as the likes of Weinstein and Spacey are being ousted from their own respective positions of power. Regardless, the narrative shouldn't be about Meryl Streep in the first place. She's definitely in damage-control mode, and her way of damage-control is by deflecting with (IMO) political bias. Had she stated that Melania and Ivanka need to get called to the carpet because of the Trump accusations, that would be another thing (btw Melania's platform being cyberbullying is hilarious when you've seen Trump's Twitter. If anything, I DON'T want to hear from Melania Trump.).But she didn't say as much in her comments. I mean, do you think she would have called out Hillary Clinton had she been in the oval office?
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Post by stephen on Jan 5, 2018 22:48:14 GMT
I think she's not so much deflecting out of political bias but rather because she's in damage-control mode. And yes, while Michelle Obama's vocal support would be valuable, calling for the current First Lady and the daughter of the President of the United States to take a stand against sexual harassment in this particular presidency is understandable, as the shadow of Trump's accusations linger even as the likes of Weinstein and Spacey are being ousted from their own respective positions of power. Regardless, the narrative shouldn't be about Meryl Streep in the first place. She's definitely in damage-control mode, and her way of damage-control is by deflecting with (IMO) political bias. Had she stated that Melania and Ivanka need to get called to the carpet because of the Trump accusations, that would be another thing (btw Melania's platform being cyberbullying is hilarious when you've seen Trump's Twitter. If anything, I DON'T want to hear from Melania Trump.).But she didn't say as much in her comments. I mean, do you think she would have called out Hillary Clinton had she been in the oval office? Unlikely, because the narrative would probably have turned to "well, it could've been worse!" and pointing at the alternative. There's no winning with either scenario, I guess. I definitely think that Streep has been pretty poor at handling this whole thing. If she had said that she had heard the stories and assumed that they were merely salacious rumors, and that she had exhibited poor judgment in doing so, then it would've been fine and likely we wouldn't have heard anything more of it. But it became such an immediate close-ranks response that she wound up making herself part of the narrative.
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Jan 5, 2018 23:02:15 GMT
She's definitely in damage-control mode, and her way of damage-control is by deflecting with (IMO) political bias. Had she stated that Melania and Ivanka need to get called to the carpet because of the Trump accusations, that would be another thing (btw Melania's platform being cyberbullying is hilarious when you've seen Trump's Twitter. If anything, I DON'T want to hear from Melania Trump.).But she didn't say as much in her comments. I mean, do you think she would have called out Hillary Clinton had she been in the oval office? Unlikely, because the narrative would probably have turned to "well, it could've been worse!" and pointing at the alternative. There's no winning with either scenario, I guess. I definitely think that Streep has been pretty poor at handling this whole thing. If she had said that she had heard the stories and assumed that they were merely salacious rumors, and that she had exhibited poor judgment in doing so, then it would've been fine and likely we wouldn't have heard anything more of it. But it became such an immediate close-ranks response that she wound up making herself part of the narrative. True, although Matt Damon's got her beat when it comes to poor responses. I'm not that angry with Streep. I just find it annoying when people only point their fingers at those who don't align with their political beliefs. For example, Alec Baldwin responding to the Weinstein news by constantly tweeting about Bill O'Reilly, or Republicans deflecting when Roy Moore gets brought up. I strongly feel (and not just talking about Streep here) that political affiliations should be put aside for issues this serious.
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Post by hugobolso1 on Jan 10, 2018 3:23:32 GMT
In favor of Streep there are actresses equally hypocrit like Kidman, Cruz, Paltrow and a large etc. e But there are only blaminng Streep and (in a much lesser way) Paltrow
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jan 10, 2018 21:18:56 GMT
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Post by evilbliss on Jan 10, 2018 23:18:29 GMT
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jan 10, 2018 23:30:45 GMT
Well that was dumb.
"Hey, let me physically assault a guy with a shitload more money than me (and a team of lawyers at his disposal) in a public place!"
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 11, 2018 1:18:38 GMT
this is going to make such an interesting movie in 5-10 years
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jan 11, 2018 2:12:00 GMT
this is going to make such an interesting movie in 5-10 years From Producer Jessica Chastain.
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Post by AKenjiB on Jan 11, 2018 2:25:33 GMT
Not much of a slap though. Barely even tapped Weinstein.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jan 11, 2018 8:29:23 GMT
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Post by evilbliss on Jan 11, 2018 8:46:53 GMT
Not much of a slap though. Barely even tapped Weinstein. Still embarrassing though. It was wrong of him to slap the guy even though he's disgusting.
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Post by jakesully on Jan 11, 2018 15:20:52 GMT
smh that was pathetic
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Post by quetee on Jan 11, 2018 17:09:04 GMT
lmao. First of all, seal was married to HeidI Klum, who also was chummy with Harvey. Second of all, Chrissy Teign just put his ass on notice, so he needs to sit down before he's exposed.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jan 16, 2018 18:51:27 GMT
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Post by Martin Stett on Jan 16, 2018 20:55:40 GMT
At this point, you should sew it shut and play a mime in the rest of your movies.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jan 25, 2018 11:40:24 GMT
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jan 29, 2018 20:59:59 GMT
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Post by hugobolso1 on Feb 1, 2018 14:37:18 GMT
Weinstein denies McGowan people.com/movies/harvey-weinstein-ben-affleck-denies-knowing-rose-mcgowans-alleged-sexual-assault/Harvey Weinstein Says Ben Affleck Denies Knowing About Rose McGowan's Alleged Sexual Assault Harvey Weinstein is using an email allegedly written by Ben Affleck to cast doubt on Rose McGowan’s claim that the producer sexually assaulted her in 1997. According to a statement from Weinstein’s attorney Ben Brafman, two people whom McGowan claims to have told about the alleged assault at the time — her then-manager and Affleck — have denied that the actress reported the attack to them. “She never told me nor did I ever infer that she was attacked by anyone. Any accounts to the contrary are false. I have no knowledge about anything Rose did or claimed to have done,’ ” Affleck allegedly wrote in an email to Weinstein, according to Brafman. McGowan, who has been promoting her new book Brave, as well as the two-hour premiere of her E! documentary Citizen Rose on Tuesday, previously claimed in a series of tweets that Affleck knew about the alleged assault. “‘GODDAMNIT! I TOLD HIM TO STOP DOING THAT’ you said that to my face,” McGowan tweeted after the Justice League star released a statement in October saying that the allegations against Weinstein made him “sick.” Asked in October if he was aware of Weinstein’s behavior, Affleck told Today he “knew he was sleazy.” He added, “I knew he was sleazy and kind of a bully, but unfortunately that wasn’t that uncommon. I was brand new to Hollywood … I was 24 years old, I never made a movie and didn’t know much of anything really.”
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