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Post by Viced on Aug 23, 2017 15:11:57 GMT
Has anyone watched this? Looks a bit cheesy but JENNIFER JASON LEIGH IS IN IT. |
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Post by cheesecake on Aug 23, 2017 22:50:33 GMT
My sister was telling me about it a few days ago and she went on a huge rant. I don't have Netflix so get really behind on their output. She really didn't like it so far, but she gets really ticked when the subject matter isn't handled as she'd like.
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Post by pacinoyes on Nov 19, 2017 13:37:33 GMT
I am only 1 episode in and I think it might have trouble sustaining for the long haul but the first episode was actually quite clever - the kid has trouble communicating (funny and sad) and the adults in his world have the same problem in a different way (mostly sad with the parents in saying what they mean, meaning what they say).
Pretty impressively cast with Gilchrist seeming on target to me and the family - Leigh, Rappaport and the very charming sister played by Bridgette Lundy-Paine right on point - I'll keep watching.....this is risky stuff and maybe this show would piss people off but the formulaic aspects of it might make it more entertaining than what a more "accurate" show would be.
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Post by pacinoyes on Nov 29, 2017 2:55:14 GMT
5 episodes in now and this show has gotten even better and settled into a winning zone. Surprised this is only 76% on RT - I think a few hipper than thou TV critics are outfoxing themselves with their pans of it.
To me it has spun off into intriguing character tangents and is just eminently watchable - and that counts for a whole lot - it's not light but not bitter or off-putting either. Bridgette Lundy-Paine is giving a very lovely, absolutely effortless breakout performance here but this whole cast continues to sparkle.
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Post by Viced on Nov 29, 2017 4:03:53 GMT
pacinoyes I liked it overall...... but idk, the affair stuff with JJL's character was never really interesting for me and it takes up a lot of the show's time. Agreed on Lundy-Paine though... Rapaport and Leigh are great, but she is probably the highlight of the show.
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Post by pacinoyes on Nov 29, 2017 12:29:23 GMT
Yeah, the affair is my least favorite part too although I do like that the show is willing to have you dislike the behavior of a lead like that ......and in a way it even gets a little mileage out of that since her behavior takes on a repeated pattern like Sam's.
When the writing slips from time to time, you can still take pleasure with how strong that cast is though - I'll definitely watch it out for the rest of S1 and hoping for the best in S2.......a little tighter writing kicks this show up a notch, a little weaker writing and it could spin into a mess of tone and balance.
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Post by pacinoyes on Aug 25, 2018 11:49:26 GMT
Bridgette Lundy-Paine. If you don't know that name...........you should.
Season 2 Trailer.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2018 14:10:22 GMT
I kinda like it? I sort of kept going because I like the sister and JJL but the other characters can get REALLY annoying. Like the mothers and students that really got mad because Casey was transferring to a better school? As if they couldn’t DARE rely on the other girls to help each other win? So to keep her there they’re gonna treat her like crap until she relents and stays? The fuck? The main kid’s friend from the tech store is irritating too.
I may or may not bother with season 2. Depends how bored I am.
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Post by Viced on Sept 10, 2018 15:00:34 GMT
Season 2 was good... still a little goofy but I'd say it was a step up from season 1. Much funnier too... and Zahid established himself as the best character on the show. Dude is hilarious to me -- and a great friend. Jennifer Jason Leigh easily MVP though...
They must be confident they're getting another season, because everything in the last few minutes of the (very good) finale was left wide open.
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Post by Mattsby on Sept 10, 2018 17:12:43 GMT
Recently caught up....
I think S2 is markedly better than S1, just overall more smartly plotted, funnier, connects deeper with its characters. S1 had such an immediately fresh and frank perspective with Sam, and all his relationships/interactions....but I found a lot of what was happening around him (yup, the affair, and even his obsession with the therapist) a bit drawn-out and often unconvincing. I still liked most of S1, but the finale especially was awfully generic...
S2 is less awkward and vastly more winning - it's feel-good but doesn't dissolve into syrup and the side characters are funnier than ever and given depth. Casey Wilson's small role and asides to herself are quite funny, Zahid the faux-smarmy friend (and those "roommates" of his) hilarious, and Paige is given her best moment in the finale. But the parents this season really shine - especially Michael Rapaport, who maybe has never been better, with his flustered, emotional dithering. And Lundy-Paine, and her Hughesian Edge-of-Seventeen storyline, she's terrific and worthy of a show all on her own...
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 22, 2018 11:53:08 GMT
Caught up and enjoyed season 2 more too. It was tweaked in the right way - it's a little messier which made the laughs a little more uncomfortable and at times quite funny too.
The only thing that holds this show back a little bit is it spreads itself too thin - if the affair was overdone in season 1, then I don't need to see Julia at all in season 2 either etc. I'm also not sure that JJL is written nearly as sharp as Leigh is in playing her - I mean this character/actress has got layers of guilt, sadness, and resentment to tap into.
But I consider myself pretty adept at spotting formulas and bad writing and I saw a lot of it on big hits on Netflix this year (a disappointing S4 of Black Mirror, a carbon copy Stranger Things 2, and the batsh*t improbable Ozark lol)........and this show swerved formula in several ways this year - it doesn't always work but more than not it does - and the cast is almost like family to me at this point. Love em......
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Post by Viced on Sept 22, 2018 14:13:43 GMT
The only thing that holds this show back a little bit is it spreads itself too thin - if the affair was overdone in season 1, then I don't need to see Julia at all in season 2 either etc. Yeah, I have no idea why she was in season 2 at all in moments where Sam wasn't involved. Why in the hell did we need to see her go to doctor's appointments and talk to her mother or whatever? Criminal that the actress that plays her is billed in the opening credits over my main man Zahid. |
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Post by Mattsby on Oct 24, 2018 17:17:15 GMT
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Post by Mattsby on Oct 9, 2019 0:55:59 GMT
The 10-episode third season will be released Friday, Nov. 1 on Netflix.
Finally, a S3 release date!
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Post by pacinoyes on Oct 31, 2019 16:40:10 GMT
Trailer for tomorrow's 3rd Season:
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Post by pacinoyes on Nov 17, 2019 10:33:02 GMT
Only 1 episode in on Season 3 but the utterly fantastic Bridgette Lundy-Paine shows why she earns all the adjectives -she doesn't strike a false note in an episode that expects her to be temperamental, mature, wise, full of wonder and ........yet scared ......for her it's no sweat at all. She raises the writing.....
So far, at the start at least, it's uneven and all that but still eminently watchable.....
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Post by pacinoyes on Nov 30, 2019 2:35:25 GMT
Well, um, that was my least favorite season...... I'll watch if there's a season 4 but problems are cropping up. The good : Bridgette Lundy-Paine - awesome as usual......... Jennifer Jason Leigh her best season, Nik Dodani a riot as sex savant Zahid The not so good - insane amount of political correctness this season and forced too and I don't usually mind teen girl hot lesbianism (um, sorry was that wrong?  ) but I sort of loathe the girlfriend which is bummer and I kind of loathed Michael Rappaport too who was far better in S2 when he was pissed off. Plus it's becoming way too much about everybody being happy when the show is supposed to be about conflict which is inherently messy. But the charm of most of the cast still got it over ......for now...... |
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 14, 2021 20:44:12 GMT
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 20, 2021 21:03:25 GMT
s4, e1 Yeah, I don't care if it's corny and so politically correct and annoyingly progressive woke it's almost a parody......it still works.......very well played by the amazing Brigette Lundy-Paine wielding an ax in e1 especially.....she's ruled from the start of the show......and you like them all just like a real family - heck I don't even like all my family...and I like these people This show is also working in ways it can't even know - 18 year old lesbians in catholic schoolgirl uniforms with stylish jackets......I find that very ..........um.........compelling  Probably as sweet and open and inclusive a show as you can ever imagine and if that sounds sappy so do a stack of waffles smothered in maple syrup and everybody likes that.....I'm quite sure when it gets to the series finale I'll be choked up, but I'm not going to admit that to you, you fncking jackals......   |
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Post by Viced on Jul 26, 2021 2:18:31 GMT
Finished season 4... the first seven episodes are somewhat plodding but always charming. Not nearly enough interesting things going on... but at this point I love the characters so I went along with it. And the only thing that was truly lame was the cringeworthy dress code stuff with Izzie/Casey. Can't believe so much of the final season was wasted on that... and Casey/Izzie's relationship was only slightly less boring tbh. But once the endgame kicks in in the final three episodes it's pretty great. Ep8 with Casey narrating was one of the best episodes of the series... and it was impossible to not get choked up at the finale. The Olive Garden break-up was so surprisingly devastating. Surprising because I spent the whole final season waiting for Paige to dump Sam tbh... but what a scene! And I predicted that Doug would be joining Sam in Antarctica the moment he said he had 54 vacation days saved up... but that really was a wonderful ending. Main problem with season 4 is that Jennifer Jason Leigh is hardly given a goddamn thing to do. Seems like her character could've been killed off two seasons ago and it would've hardly made a difference. But of course she was great in the few halfway decent moments she was given. Her reconciling with her mother only to find out she's lost her marbles was so depressingly true to life. And both Zahid and Paige cemented themselves as the best characters on the show. Gonna miss those two. Zahid really did not need to lose a nut though. |
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) but I sort of loathe the girlfriend which is bummer and I kind of loathed Michael Rappaport too who was far better in S2 when he was pissed off.
