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Post by pupdurcs on Apr 10, 2024 21:19:35 GMT
The winner of our last pair of Paul Thomas Anderson & Philip Seymour Hoffman is .....The Master.
1) Director/ Actor Best Film #1: Scorsese & DeNiro-------Goodfellas (17 votes) (RU Taxi Driver 10 votes)
2) Director/Actor Best Film #2: Fincher & Pitt----- Seven ( 19 votes) ( RU: Fight Club 13 votes)
3) Director/ Actor Best Film # 3: Spielberg & Hanks-----Saving Private Ryan ( 15 votes) ( RU: Catch Me If You Can 12 votes)
4) Director/Actor Best Film #4: Coppola & Dunst------ The Virgin Suicides ( 10 votes) ( RU: Marie Antoinette 9 votes)
5) Director/Actor Best Film #5: Haynes & Moore------ Safe ( 10 Votes)
(RU: Far From Heaven 9 votes)
6 ) Director/ Actor Best Film #6: Rafelson & Nicholson------- Five Easy Pieces (12 Votes) ( RU: The King Of Marvin Gardens 4 votes)
7) Director/Actor Best Film #7: Sheridan & Day-Lewis------ In The Name Of The Father ( 16 Votes) ( RU: My Left Foot 3 votes)
8) Director/ Actor Best Film #8 : Scott & Washington---- Crimson Tide (6 Votes) & Deja Vu ( 6 Votes) ( RU: Man On Fire 5 votes)
9) Director/ Actor Best Film #9: Carpenter & Russell--------The Thing (15 Votes)
( RU: Big Trouble In Little China 3 votes)
10) Director/Actor Best Film #10: Kazan & Brando------- A Streetcar Named Desire (12 Votes) ( RU: On The Waterfront 9 votes)
11) Director/Actor Best Film #11: McQueen & Fassbender-------12 Years A Slave ( 11 Votes) ( RU: Hunger 7 votes)
12) Director/Actor Best Film #12: Scott & Crowe------ Gladiator (19 Votes) ( RU: American Gangster 6 votes)
13) Director/ Actor Best Film #13: Russell & Lawrence------ Silver Linings Playbook ( 17 Votes) ( RU: American Hustle 4 votes)
14) Director/ Actor Best Film #14: Scorsese & DiCaprio-------- The Wolf Of Wall Street ( 12 Votes)
( RU: The Departed 8 votes)
15) Director/Actor Best Film #15: Tarantino & Jackson------ Pulp Fiction (21 Votes) ( RU: Jackie Brown 6 votes)
16) Director/ Actor Best Film #16: Landis & Murphy------ Trading Places ( 9 Votes)
( RU: Coming To America 5 votes)
17) Director/ Actor Best Film #17: Anderson & Hoffman-------The Master (16 Votes) ( RU: Boogie Nights 12 Votes)
Next up, Alfred Hitchcock & James Stewart, who made 4 films together.
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Post by urbanpatrician on Apr 10, 2024 21:24:03 GMT
2 Top 10 all time films.
1 Intriguing great film (upstages 12 Angry Men) with my probably favorite Hitchcock Jimmy performance.
Last one is kinda just there. A forgettable little vacation time in between 2 elite films. Jimmy and Hitchcock were basically ready for Vertigo, minds were already thinking their ultimate masterpiece together.
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Post by pupdurcs on Apr 10, 2024 21:42:03 GMT
My vote goes to Vertigo. Both their best film and Stewart's best performance for Hitchcock. Rope is interesting, as is Rear Window, but Vertigo hits different.
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Post by Martin Stett on Apr 10, 2024 22:02:37 GMT
What of Stewart and Mann (who were probably more iconic back in the day)
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Post by pupdurcs on Apr 10, 2024 22:07:01 GMT
What of Stewart and Mann (who were probably more iconic back in the day) and Stewart were a great pairing indeed, but I worry that even on a board full of cinephiles, a lot of the Anthony Mann films are underseen. I'm not sure you'd get an accurate representation of how people feel about most of their films together. |
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Apr 10, 2024 22:11:29 GMT
can't deny the greatness of Vertigo but I definitely prefer Rear Window.
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Post by Martin Stett on Apr 10, 2024 22:14:00 GMT
What of Stewart and Mann (who were probably more iconic back in the day) and Stewart were a great pairing indeed, but I worry that even on a board full of cinephiles, a lot of the Anthony Mann films are underseen. I'm not sure you'd get an accurate representation of how people feel about most of their films together. Yeah, it would just be Winchester '73 from everyone (which it probably should be, let's be honest) |
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Apr 10, 2024 22:32:59 GMT
Mann and Stewart were a great pairing indeed, but I worry that even on a board full of cinephiles, a lot of the Anthony Mann films are underseen. I'm not sure you'd get an accurate representation of how people feel about most of their films together. Yeah, it would just be Winchester '73 from everyone ( which it probably should be, let's be honest) Damn straight. Man from Laramie is the only one that comes close. |
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Post by JangoB on Apr 10, 2024 22:34:36 GMT
Rear Window is pure perfection.
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Post by stephen on Apr 10, 2024 22:36:11 GMT
The Man Who Knew Too Much is underrated, Rope is a lot of fun, Rear Window is a masterclass of tension. And yet it's easily Vertigo.
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Post by finniussnrub on Apr 10, 2024 22:41:18 GMT
Mann and Stewart were a great pairing indeed, but I worry that even on a board full of cinephiles, a lot of the Anthony Mann films are underseen. I'm not sure you'd get an accurate representation of how people feel about most of their films together. Yeah, it would just be Winchester '73 from everyone (which it probably should be, let's be honest) Nah, Naked Spur for me, thanks to Robert Ryan as the best villain of the Mann/Stewart westerns. |
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Post by sirchuck23 on Apr 10, 2024 23:08:58 GMT
Vertigo
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Post by futuretrunks on Apr 10, 2024 23:50:16 GMT
Rear fucking Window. Vertigo is asscheeks.
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Post by countjohn on Apr 11, 2024 0:15:38 GMT
Rope and Vertigo are basically tied as my favorite Hitchcock, but voting for Vertigo as it is in a tight race with the good but overrated Rear Window. Rear Window was 2/3's of the way to something really good, an analysis of the voyeurism and sadism of the movies. We'd be disappointed if he didn't kill his wife, and in the most salacious way (chopping her to pieces and burying her body parts all over). So that's how the movie should have ended to make the point, not with the ending to an above average episode of Murder, She Wrote.
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Post by countjohn on Apr 11, 2024 0:27:14 GMT
Vertigo is like really great Instagram model asscheeks. And she fakes her death and uses you as the witness later. |
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Post by mhynson27 on Apr 11, 2024 0:49:03 GMT
My actual vote is Rope tbh, but gotta go with Rear Window to try and stop Vertigo from winning.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Apr 11, 2024 3:22:29 GMT
Rear Window is a great piece of entertainment – it’s immaculately constructed with elegant simplicity, but Vertigo has such fascinating psychological complexity, is marvelously twisted and fucked up and hypnotic. It really is Hitch’s masterpiece.
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Post by futuretrunks on Apr 11, 2024 3:53:25 GMT
Rear Window is a great piece of entertainment – it’s immaculately constructed with elegant simplicity, but Vertigo has such fascinating psychological complexity, is marvelously twisted and fucked up and hypnotic. It really is Hitch’s masterpiece. Vertigo was a 30 minutes in "Oh no, this director I love is doing the incoherent thing". I'm not convinced the movie makes a lick of sense. |
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Post by demille on Apr 11, 2024 8:55:15 GMT
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Post by pupdurcs on Apr 11, 2024 19:47:25 GMT
Will someone rid me of this bothersome tie?   But yeah, surprised it's this close with the poll soon to finish. Expected a comfortable win for Vertigo. Rear Window could actually take this. Exciting! |
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Post by Nikan on Apr 11, 2024 20:19:10 GMT
Will someone rid me of this bothersome tie? But yeah, surprised it's this close with the poll soon to finish. Expected a comfortable win for Vertigo. Rear Window could actually take this. Exciting!  Edit: some MF just changed that |
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Post by urbanpatrician on Apr 11, 2024 20:48:32 GMT
Fools who want to make this a Rear Window vs Vertigo battle. Most Hitchcock fans like both.
The same guys who make Goodfellas and Taxi Driver a battle. the old school Scorsese fans who remember when Scorsese had that sleek 70s style vs mafia Scorsese from 1990 on.
I guess Hitchcock is the disconnect between murder suspense Hitchcock or Hitchcock master of the medium.
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 11, 2024 21:04:55 GMT
Fools who want to make this a Rear Window vs Vertigo battle. Most Hitchcock fans like both. The same guys who make Goodfellas and Taxi Driver a battle. the old school Scorsese fans who remember when Scorsese had that sleek 70s style vs mafia Scorsese from 1990 on.
I guess Hitchcock is the disconnect between murder suspense Hitchcock or Hitchcock master of the medium.Didn't I just mention those Rear Window wackjobs about a week ago - and you gave that same Taxi Driver / Goodfellas example. See what I mean? I like Rear Window but Carol Reed or Michael Powell could have easily made Rear Window.......only Hitchcock could have made Vertigo. Side note: Vertigo has like a 2 minute sequence (iirc?) of Stewart following Novak in a car in a descending, spiral city streets that is one of the greatest unspoken metaphors in film.......I love that shit in movies like Past Lives where wait with them or Chinatown where he searches the office and finds nothing (apparently) - things where nowadays they would cut around the scene so people don't get "bored"........you watch it......you wait for something to happen.....nothing really does.........but the 2nd or 10th time you watch it - it starts to play on you ......quite deeply too....... Whole different level .......  |
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Post by urbanpatrician on Apr 11, 2024 21:17:47 GMT
Fools who want to make this a Rear Window vs Vertigo battle. Most Hitchcock fans like both. The same guys who make Goodfellas and Taxi Driver a battle. the old school Scorsese fans who remember when Scorsese had that sleek 70s style vs mafia Scorsese from 1990 on.
I guess Hitchcock is the disconnect between murder suspense Hitchcock or Hitchcock master of the medium.Didn't I just mention those Rear Window wackjobs about a week ago - and you gave that same Taxi Driver / Goodfellas example. See what I mean? I like Rear Window but Carol Reed or Michael Powell could have easily made Rear Window.......only Hitchcock could have made Vertigo. Side note: Vertigo has like a 2 minute sequence (iirc?) of Stewart following Novak in a car in a descending, spiral city streets that is one of the greatest unspoken metaphors in film.......I love that shit in movies like Past Lives where wait with them or Chinatown where he searches the office and finds nothing (apparently) - things where nowadays they would cut around the scene so people don't get "bored"........you watch it......you wait for something to happen.....nothing really does.........but the 2nd or 10th time you watch it - it starts to play on you ......quite deeply too....... Whole different level ....... What example are you talking about? I mean yeah i did say there appears to be a disconnect between Goodfellas and Taxi Driver fans. The same way theres the disconnect between Rear Window and Vertigo fans. Why Goodfellas beat Taxi Driver so badly this iteration I have no clue, but in general I think the 2 are pretty close to each other. I strongly disagree someone else besides Hitchcock could've made Rear Window. Its Hitchcockian to the core, with a mastery of the genre that isnt like any other director. So in that sense maybe I would say Rear Window is a genre mastery and Vertigo is a medium mastery. Even tho Rear Window uses technique and medium tools to a master level too. You can find Vertigo superior but as I said...this debate is splitting hairs. In Utero vs Nevermind. VU AND Nico vs White Light/White Heat. You know what I like both. I dont feel the need to make it a battle. They're both top 10 all time to me. See what I mean?? Yahhhh |
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Apr 12, 2024 5:32:32 GMT
Side note: Vertigo has like a 2 minute sequence (iirc?) of Stewart following Novak in a car in a descending, spiral city streets that is one of the greatest unspoken metaphors in film I weirdly love that scene too... I first saw Vertigo in a film class in college, but I was short on sleep at the time, so that scene kind of lulled me into this hypnotized state… of course the music played a big part in that too. |
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