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Post by Nikan on Apr 10, 2024 13:46:56 GMT
...Just because a film critic or *gasps* a MAR member influenced you to?   |
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Post by Archie on Apr 10, 2024 14:00:59 GMT
I had a "PTA can do no wrong" phase, which made me think Licorice Pizza was some sort of timeless coming of age masterpiece and all the criticism was pearl clutching nonsense.
No, the movie just fucking sucks lol.
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Post by stephen on Apr 10, 2024 14:06:26 GMT
The hype around 12 Years a Slave was so monumental at the time that when I watched it in theaters, I had massive blinders on and was deluded that because of its subject matter, it had to be unimpeachably great and when I went home, I added to the high praise machine . . . but then, after a few days, I started really thinking about the movie divorced from all of the praise and realized that even though I liked it for the most part, it still had massively glaring flaws and a pretty bad screenplay.
That was a major teachable moment for me.
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 10, 2024 14:20:56 GMT
Only in the sense that I give a lot of movies a pass if it has anything in it I like at all.......like there are really not that many "great" films, in English, per year - sometimes it's 0 ffs.....so to convince myself of the many thousands of hours I've spent watching utterly plebby average stuff instead of you know doing something productive .......I say thanks for those 2 jump scares or 2 laughs and just move on.........I mean you may go mad otherwise........  |
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Post by Nikan on Apr 10, 2024 14:25:33 GMT
Only in the sense that I give a lot of movies a pass if it has anything in it I like at all.......like there are really not that many "great" films, in English, per year - sometimes it's 0 ffs.....so to convince myself of the many thousands of hours I've spent watching utterly plebby average stuff instead of you know doing something productive .......I say thanks for those 2 jump scares or 2 laughs and just move on.........I mean you may go mad otherwise........ Hah, your BIG praises for House of Gucci makes sense now  |
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Post by Martin Stett on Apr 10, 2024 14:34:24 GMT
Not in that way - if anything, I'm influenced in the opposite direction.
I did convince myself that Liz and the Blue Bird wasn't a great movie on my first watch because it made me so uncomfortable. It is perhaps the only movie I'd call truly voyeuristic: it felt *wrong* to watch the movie, like I was seeing conversations and sides of these people that were so deeply personal that I was ashamed of spying. I told myself that the movie didn't hold up, that it was really just a corny (albeit well-made) coming of age story that was no different from any other in the genre on a fundamental level.
It was on rewatch that I realized that yes, the movie was every bit as good as I first thought - maybe even better. The way the director puts us in the heads of these characters - avoiding eye contact, focusing on Nozumi's hand as it nervously fiddles around when confronted, or the way Mizore's back stops slumping when she forgets her worries for a few seconds - is masterful. Furthermore, the core story of a close friendship fracturing is more effective than most coming-of-age stories on a conceptual level: both girls functioning as Liz (captor/parent) and the Blue Bird (captive/child) at once, with neither being "the bad guy."
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 10, 2024 14:34:40 GMT
Only in the sense that I give a lot of movies a pass if it has anything in it I like at all.......like there are really not that many "great" films, in English, per year - sometimes it's 0 ffs.....so to convince myself of the many thousands of hours I've spent watching utterly plebby average stuff instead of you know doing something productive .......I say thanks for those 2 jump scares or 2 laughs and just move on.........I mean you may go mad otherwise........ Hah, your BIG praises for House of Gucci makes sense now Rating was only ~ 7 / 10 - but in the last month I've been called a racist, a sexist, a provocateur, a Jeffrey Wells fan (that one is sort of true  ) so your exaggeration is relatively minor ........  movie-awards-redux.freeforums.net/post/395467 |
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Post by tep on Apr 10, 2024 15:39:13 GMT
I definitely went through a contrarian phase when I was like 15 - 16 where I wanted to dislike a whole bunch of super popular movies...Forrest Gump and Shawshank Redemption for instance, now I quite like both. Also, around the same time I conditioned myself to not like anything that seemed "feel-good" because I was super edgy and only liked arthouse films and obscure movies about serial killers. Very cringe, looking back.
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Post by Barbie on Apr 10, 2024 16:38:09 GMT
The Notebook. For a long time everyone around me praised it as so romantic and heartwrenching so I tricked myself into crying when I eventually watched it. Looking back, it's not that good. And Allie should've ended up with Len. Fuck Noah
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Apr 10, 2024 16:54:33 GMT
I can finally admit that The Souvenir (2019) is boring. Thank you, Nikan
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Post by sterlingarcher86 on Apr 10, 2024 16:58:30 GMT
I don’t really have an example of this but I tried so hard to trick myself into loving The Power of the Dog since it was set in my home county. Just not for me.
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Post by BlackCaesar21 on Apr 10, 2024 18:34:18 GMT
The hype around 12 Years a Slave was so monumental at the time that when I watched it in theaters, I had massive blinders on and was deluded that because of its subject matter, it had to be unimpeachably great and when I went home, I added to the high praise machine . . . but then, after a few days, I started really thinking about the movie divorced from all of the praise and realized that even though I liked it for the most part, it still had massively glaring flaws and a pretty bad screenplay. That was a major teachable moment for me. This unconsciously happened to me with Oppenheimer. |
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Post by countjohn on Apr 10, 2024 19:31:31 GMT
I had a "PTA can do no wrong" phase, which made me think Licorice Pizza was some sort of timeless coming of age masterpiece and all the criticism was pearl clutching nonsense. No, the movie just fucking sucks lol. Now I know how teachers feel when they're grading an exam, see that a student had the right answer on a multi choice exam first, but then erased it and filled in the wrong bubble.  |
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Post by futuretrunks on Apr 10, 2024 23:59:47 GMT
No. In fact, I think my bafflement when I was 14-15ish at the love for the bloated, anticlimactic Return of the King (despite my loving FoTR and TTT to this day) cemented my utter disdain for treating aesthetic judgments like politics. If I have one virtue, it's that I won't obfuscate my true opinion, and I take evaluation very seriously. Not advocacy, evaluation.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Apr 11, 2024 5:44:12 GMT
Both things sort of happened with the same movie – Fight Club. Well... I never actually loved Fight Club, but I sort of tricked myself into liking it because everyone I knew in high school who had seen it loved it, so I thought I had to at least “like” it even if I definitely felt underwhelmed by it after first watching it. At the time, I think the film’s twist was “cool” enough for me to like it as a whole, but I was still much more of a Se7en fan even in high school. Later on, I discovered there was a sizable chunk of people on the IMDb message boards who hated it and articulated their issues with the film in a way that resonated with me, so then I convinced myself for a while that I actually hated the movie. After rewatching it again sometime later though, I settled on still disliking the movie but not thinking it was terrible, so that’s where I am now. One that I initially tricked myself into loving was Spectre. I think I just really wanted to love another Craig Bond movie besides Casino Royale since Quantum of Solace was mediocre and I had only liked but wasn’t crazy about Skyfall. Spectre seemed to check all the boxes for me at the time because it does have the feeling of a “Bond’s greatest hits” kind of package. But after rewatching it a couple more times, I became more aware of its issues and was less enthusiastic about it, so now I just think it’s okayish. |
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Post by ireallyamsomething on Apr 11, 2024 10:41:38 GMT
Loving a film is a personal thing, something just has to click with me or something I can feel in my gut - so it's difficult for me to trick myself into loving a film. (maybe admiration is sort of possible, but that's more intellectual? Also, there are certain films which I've enjoyed thinking/reading about more than I've enjoyed watching them. So not sure how to categorize those)
However, I do feel that reading too many negative or extreme or specific reactions can affect the overall experience. While watching a certain much-discussed movie last year I realized that I was not directly engaging with the work but reacting to the reactions I had come across on Twitter, which was very disappointing, and not how I'd want to engage with art.
What certain film critics (or filmmakers) have done at times is make me give a film another chance or guide me on what to see or admire (I really enjoyed Citizen Kane on a rewatch along with Roger Ebert's commentary - I barely remember my first viewing which was probably marred my expectations and my stupidity.)
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) so your exaggeration is relatively minor ........ 
