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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 3, 2024 18:54:16 GMT
""I always treat life and death with respect, but most people don't," Lee said at a news conference Tuesday. "Look, I love the Coen brothers; we all studied at NYU. But they treat life like a joke. Ha ha ha. A joke. It's like, 'Look how they killed that guy! Look how blood squirts out the side of his head!' I see things different than that."
www.reuters.com/article/idUSN21349748/
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Post by stephen on Apr 3, 2024 18:59:17 GMT
I don't think it's meant as a cheap shot specifically. The Coens have a more cynical worldview overall, so life and death is treated as more of a joke to them in the sense that nothing really matters in the grand scheme of things. I mean, Spike's used death for humorous purposes in the past before (lest we forget the landmine scene in Da 5 Bloods, or the Klan members blowing themselves up in BlacKkKlansman -- basically, Jasper Pääkkönen keeps getting exploded in these movies), so it's not like he's always treated mortality as sacrosanct.
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Post by urbanpatrician on Apr 3, 2024 19:00:52 GMT
Spike Lee jokes about violence too. I.e. Do the Right Thing ending. As does Tarantino. And Coens.
Call it like it is.
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Post by pupdurcs on Apr 3, 2024 19:01:15 GMT
I just looked at the article. Lee said this in 2008. I was expecting this to be something recent or newsworthy. Why is this neccesary as a thread today ? Other than as an excuse to get MAR posters to bash Lee to defend the Coens honor. Dance MAR puppets, dance for me 
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Apr 3, 2024 19:04:01 GMT
Yeah, I don't think much of it. The same critiques have been levied at guys like de Palma or Tarantino. Spike Lee himself has a humorous anecdote of laughing it up with Martin Scorsese while watching dailies of the head vice scene from Casino. But it's all a combination of different worldviews and also how much the director is keying in the audience on the artificiality of what they're watching - which Spike might not do with death as often but does in other ways through homage or comedic exaggeration.
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 3, 2024 19:09:26 GMT
I think this criticism is a conceptual one also like can say Kubrick's take on World War and Vietnam treats "serious" subject matter - including Death - as a joke.....where Kubrick would say that's a satirical POV and Spike doesn't "seem" to do satire much - although there is satire in Blackkklansman and others ......it's not that he doesn't do it.....but his overall PoV seems easier to read than the Coens who frequently made movies the juggled A LOT of tonal shifts......
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Apr 3, 2024 19:11:11 GMT
this having been said well over a decade ago makes it not worth gossiping on tbh the Coens have always been cynical  \ |
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Post by Nikan on Apr 3, 2024 19:49:18 GMT
Yeah, a more interesting thread would be the next step my man... "Do you side with Coens pov on death or a thing that Lee here assigns to himself"  ... gather neighbors, cause this is one of those nights of heavy drinking... fr I think I got into Coens at a bad, impressionable age tbh... I subscired to the "LOL" in far too many things; or maybe I should be thankful for their enlightment... that this is all mostly a joke.  |
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 3, 2024 21:15:31 GMT
fr I think I got into Coens at a bad, impressionable age tbh... I subscired to the "LOL" in far too many things; or maybe I should be thankful for their enlightment... that this is all mostly a joke.That's literally the ending to Blood Simple tbh |
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Post by quetee on Apr 3, 2024 22:17:41 GMT
I just looked at the article. Lee said this in 2008. I was expecting this to be something recent or newsworthy. Why is this neccesary as a thread today ? Other than as an excuse to get MAR posters to bash Lee to defend the Coens honor. Dance MAR puppets, dance for me Just another example of how some people are allowed to create threads and bully and mentally abuse other members. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 3, 2024 22:26:16 GMT
No safe spaces.....  |
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Apr 3, 2024 22:35:48 GMT
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 3, 2024 22:55:39 GMT
I may have seen that film in tthe theater (I was 2, um)......and during that scene a ton of people walked out .........Haneke is great to hear his takes on movies because he reads films very idiosycratically - Tyler posted his take on the "shower not working" scene in Schindler's List that is a famous take ny a lot of people but he articulated it extremely well (and I disagree with).......I would love to here talk about his own films in a comprehensive way more |
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 5, 2024 21:03:49 GMT
Btw there's no Coen reply to this quote - they don't seem to do that ever (I guess ?) but in the same interview is the one where he criticized Eastwood for Flags of Our Fathers that is rather famous for their little spat ........ him and Eastwood are buddies after this as Spielberg played peacemaker like only Spielberg can - ammiright?  :
"The story is Flags of Our Fathers, the famous flag-raising picture, and they didn't do that. If I go ahead and put an African-American actor in there, people'd go: 'This guy's lost his mind.' I mean, it's not accurate." Referring to Lee, he added: "A guy like him should shut his face." |
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Post by pupdurcs on Apr 5, 2024 21:43:17 GMT
What a great set of joints.
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... gather neighbors, cause this is one of those nights of heavy drinking... 
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