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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 21, 2024 21:04:51 GMT
His 2 big acting influences are 2 of the very few guys I even take seriously in the GOAT discussion - Pacino and to a slightly lesser extent DDL........
Some people are whispering he might get a Tony nod - maybe a Tony win - in An Enemy of the People - a tough role and not a guarantee slam dunk at all.........though I tend to doubt that sight unseen ......... Steve McQueen played in the filmI watched Succession and have seen him in some other stuff but would like to hear what MAR's take on hm is - outside of Succession - and of course there also......a good actor? A great one? A great actor in one role? Though he cites Day-Lewis and Al Pacino as his chief influences, Strong seems a kindred spirit to De Niro. They both use behavioralist techniques — external triggers such as clothing or other physical cues — to embody their characters. They are also actors who push their performance process to the extreme — to the point of leading outsiders to believe that they are engaging in self-harm.
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Post by mhynson27 on Mar 21, 2024 22:27:14 GMT
Have seen him in small roles here and there, but he's fucking GREAT in Succession imo.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 22, 2024 1:09:15 GMT
Seems to be floating around a big film roles too.....Armaggedon Time, etc....... he's playing Roy Cohn (!) in The Apprentice so he's playing one of his heroes very best roles ffs
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Post by TylerDeneuve on Mar 22, 2024 1:23:26 GMT
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 22, 2024 1:30:51 GMT
Oh I didn't know that.... Chastain came to his defense also - they are buddies I know......let's get him in that King Lear movie!
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Post by stephen on Mar 22, 2024 1:33:42 GMT
I still haven't finished Succession, but it's far and away the best thing he's done. I still feel he is very much an actor who tries too goddamn hard and the effort bleeds into most of his roles. It works for Kendall Roy but not for, say, the brother in The Judge which fails the Simple Jack rule.
I feel for the guy because that article last year(?) really did a number on him, clocking him as this oddball try-hard who seems desperate to be his idols, falling more into the Jared Leto camp than the Daniel Day-Lewis one (I still think that there's a fantastic horror movie to make based on Strong/DDL's dynamic during the making of The Ballad of Jack and Rose, where the Strong character slow-poisons the DDL character to take over the role but also to learn his secrets). I do think he is talented, and I think there's potential in the roles he'll be taking now that Succession's wrapped. The Roy Cohn role is promising for sure (in a project where I feel like that role gets the least radioactive heat on it), and he could get some afterglow love for it.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 22, 2024 1:43:43 GMT
I still haven't finished Succession, but it's far and away the best thing he's done. I still feel he is very much an actor who tries too goddamn hard and the effort bleeds into most of his roles. It works for Kendall Roy but not for, say, the brother in The Judge which fails the Simple Jack rule. I feel for the guy because that article last year(?) really did a number on him, clocking him as this oddball try-hard who seems desperate to be his idols, falling more into the Jared Leto camp than the Daniel Day-Lewis one (I still think that there's a fantastic horror movie to make based on Strong/DDL's dynamic during the making of The Ballad of Jack and Rose, where the Strong character slow-poisons the DDL character to take over the role but also to learn his secrets). I do think he is talented, and I think there's potential in the roles he'll be taking now that Succession's wrapped. The Roy Cohn role is promising for sure (in a project where I feel like that role gets the least radioactive heat on it), and he could get some afterglow love for it. I'm not gonna lie - it's the reaction of some (not all) to this current play that fascinates me - whch co-stars Michael Imperioli btw - because I have seen that play several times over the years and that role is extremely hard to pull off........if he was to win a Tony......... I can't think of a recent role like that - that inward and unshowy. It would be quite a feather in his cap and quite a range example.......
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Post by pupdurcs on Mar 22, 2024 1:55:53 GMT
Great in Succession.
But the first big role I saw him in outside of Succesion had me starting to worry if he could only really play Kendall Roy well. I think he's really poor in The Trial Of The Chicago 7. He's just really miscast, surface level and unconvincing in this dippy hippy role. Felt like a bad SNL sketch character. That lowered any expectations I had of him after enjoying his work on Succession
Good to hear he's had good reviews on stage, but I'm yet to be convinced about his range. I think he needs to be cast very carefully and specifically. Roy Cohn might be a good fit for where I think his range lays. Cohn isn't a massive leap from a character like Kendall.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Mar 22, 2024 3:32:15 GMT
Oh I didn't know that.... Chastain came to his defense also - they are buddies I know......let's get him in that King Lear movie!
Fun fact: Jeremy Strong was Chastain's reader when she auditioned for Salome (she mentioned it when she was on Marc Maron's podcast).
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Post by stabcaesar on Mar 22, 2024 4:39:24 GMT
I thought he was atrocious in The Trial of the Chicago 7 and I don't like anyone from the 1.5 seasons of Succession that I've seen.
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Post by quetee on Mar 22, 2024 4:57:07 GMT
I knew he would breakout after watching him in The Big Short. He was so good there.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 22, 2024 6:30:31 GMT
I thought he was atrocious in The Trial of the Chicago 7 and I don't like anyone from the 1.5 seasons of Succession that I've seen. Did you see Armageddon Time? Anyone? Tommen liked it I know..........anyone else? Bueller? Bueller?
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 22, 2024 20:05:29 GMT
Where are the fncking Succession fans? Wtf weirdos........
USA Today gave a typical rave......on his An Enemy of the People:
Strong is astounding as Thomas, resisting easy histrionics even as tensions reach their boiling point. Soft-spoken and even-keeled, he imbues the character with a deep well of sadness, not only for his late wife Katherine, but for the willful ignorance that’s afflicted his community.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Mar 22, 2024 23:05:30 GMT
I thought he was atrocious in The Trial of the Chicago 7 and I don't like anyone from the 1.5 seasons of Succession that I've seen. Did you see Armageddon Time? Anyone? Tommen liked it I know..........anyone else? Bueller? Bueller? A while back, I made a review thread that only a couple people posted in (wtf, I thought there were James Gray fans on this board)... I said I thought Strong was quite good in it, but he gets better in the film’s second half.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 23, 2024 7:31:57 GMT
From Gold Derby.....he really might "steal" this win and a nod seems almost assured........like I said a Tony nod by this actor in THIS role is a big deal...a win almost shocking......and a big "look at my range bitches statement" We match 100% on our four picks for Best Actor, too. Our predicted nominees are Leslie Odom Jr. (“Purlie Victorious”), Jeremy Strong (“An Enemy of the People”), Steve Carell (“Uncle Vanya”) and Michael Stuhlbarg (“Patriots”), though both Carell and Stuhlbarg have yet to be seen by Broadway audiences. “If ‘Purlie Victorious’ was still running, Leslie would definitely be my number one,” shares Sam, wondering how the fact that the show closed in early February will affect his win potential. He adds, “I’m really kind of sad not to have Liev Schreiber in my lineup,” referring to the Tony winner’s lead role in “Doubt.” Could this be a category that gets expanded by a statistical tie, too?
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Post by rhodoraonline on Mar 23, 2024 14:38:08 GMT
Great in Succession.But the first big role I saw him in outside of Succesion had me starting to worry if he could only really play Kendall Roy well. I think he's really poor in The Trial Of The Chicago 7. He's just really miscast, surface level and unconvincing in this dippy hippy role. Felt like a bad SNL sketch character. That lowered any expectations I had of him after enjoying his work on Succession Good to hear he's had good reviews on stage, but I'm yet to be convinced about his range. I think he needs to be cast very carefully and specifically. Roy Cohn might be a good fit for where I think his range lays. Cohn isn't a massive leap from a character like Kendall. I derived a similar impression of him in the scenes of his I have so far watched in The Gentlemen (just started the film, might finish it, but not realling liking it so far). The character he's playing in that is juicy and ripe to make something deep or memorable out of it, but so far it just seems to be a surface level effort from him.
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Post by pupdurcs on Mar 23, 2024 15:32:27 GMT
Great in Succession.But the first big role I saw him in outside of Succesion had me starting to worry if he could only really play Kendall Roy well. I think he's really poor in The Trial Of The Chicago 7. He's just really miscast, surface level and unconvincing in this dippy hippy role. Felt like a bad SNL sketch character. That lowered any expectations I had of him after enjoying his work on Succession Good to hear he's had good reviews on stage, but I'm yet to be convinced about his range. I think he needs to be cast very carefully and specifically. Roy Cohn might be a good fit for where I think his range lays. Cohn isn't a massive leap from a character like Kendall. I derived a similar impression of him in the scenes of his I have so far watched in The Gentlemen (just started the film, might finish it, but not realling liking it so far). The character he's playing in that is juicy and ripe to make something deep or memorable out of it, but so far it just seems to be a surface level effort from him. Yeah, it's bit worrying that this is a trend from Strong. And these are character roles, where you'd expect him to shine. Again, he's a stage trained and experienced theatre actor , so it's not really a surprise that he can do Ibsen on stage to a good standard. So could Kevin Spacey, but most people kind of recognised his range limitations as a film/screen actor. I think Strong may have even more limitations than Spacey as a dramatic screen actor, but again, if he picks his roles and "type" carefully, there's no reason he shouldn't be able to get major acclaim in another screen role. Strong's three favorite actors are Al Pacino, Daniel Day-Lewis and Dustin Hoffman. I think he shares the most qualities with Hoffman ( primarily, how strongly he presents a neurotic quality. He'll never have the cool swagger of Pacino or the Byronic leading man intensity of DDL). But I just don't think he has Hoffman's range ( or any of their range), particularly on screen. Maybe he just lucked into the role of his life as a screen actor with Kendall Roy, and he's just overall better suited to theatre.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 23, 2024 15:46:55 GMT
* Hmmmm......I'd say it's very surprising that he could do THIS Ibsen on stage - I'd say it's actually shocking * I'd say he's playing an arguably top 3 Pacino role next in film so he at least has some overlap with him and Hoffman * I'm not a huge fan of this guy yet but this board is very susceptible of judging actors too early...... he is 45 with a limited filmography .......he apparently is 2/3rds of the way towards the Triple Crown ( assuming he can "win" that Tony).........he has a big, potential great role in a role in film ........a role that wins Tony's and Emmy's - Roy Cohn.......... At least let's agree this is as exciting a recent run across all 3 mediums potentially - out of the blue - as anyone is having : Succession, An Enemy of the People, The Apprentice, Armagedddon Time.......this is comparable - potentially - to Chastain in a small way
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Post by Archie on Mar 24, 2024 2:12:35 GMT
One of those pesky Successions fans here. I honestly think Kendall Roy is kind of a miracle. I've never seen a performance that elicits such genuine feelings of empathy, contempt, and pity at this level. It's a complete tour de force and one of TV's finest creations imo.
I've seen him in a bunch of other stuff and he never really registered for me. But I don't think that really matters. If Strong was put on Earth only to make Kendall Roy real, then so be it.
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Post by Archie on Mar 24, 2024 2:16:36 GMT
I don't like anyone from the 1.5 seasons of Succession that I've seen.
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Post by mhynson27 on Mar 24, 2024 4:09:48 GMT
I don't like anyone from the 1.5 seasons of Succession that I've seen. To be fair, they barely like anything.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 24, 2024 6:52:18 GMT
One of those pesky Successions fans here. I honestly think Kendall Roy is kind of a miracle. I've never seen a performance that elicits such genuine feelings of empathy, contempt, and pity at this level. It's a complete tour de force and one of TV's finest creations imo. I've seen him in a bunch of other stuff and he never really registered for me. But I don't think that really matters. If Strong was put on Earth only to make Kendall Roy real, then so be it. I also think his "potential" career arc tops - or could top Cranston ........Cranston is an iconic TV guy, multiple Emmys - and a great theater actor in the sense that he won 2 lead Tony's in a quick span. I only saw him once but it was incredible ( Network) - but it was exactly the performance you knew he could give.......that is not the case with Strong here from what I know of this play and not having seen Strong actually do it....... Like maybe he's a guy who has a few "miracles" in him and we just haven't seen them all yet and only the "big" ones will matter.........Cranston missed out on a lot of film roles because he came on late.........Strong is gonna get a lot of film roles because he's at - theoretically - a "preak" at 45..... Btw ............this is who has shown up so far to see him - and it just started.......it may not win a Tony but his heat for this is out there........and this is a huge hit in a play and performance in a play that is very uncommercial imo ......
Robert Downey Jr., Richard Gere, Anne Hathaway, Nicholas Braun, Jessica Chastain, Edward Norton, Rachel Brosnahan, Corey Hawkins, Sarah Paulson, Adam DiMarco, Vincent D'Onofrio, Rita Moreno, Jesse Armstrong, Andrew Barth Feldman, Mercedes Ruehl and Woody Allen.
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 30, 2024 17:16:13 GMT
A Best Actor nod.......pretty impressive for this role.....very impressive imo..........probably the favorite or 2nd behind Odom whose play is no longer running - usually a drawback .........but not always
William Jackson Harper, Uncle Vanya Leslie Odom, Jr., Purlie Victorious: A Non-Confederate Romp Through the Cotton Patch Liev Schreiber, Doubt: A Parable Jeremy Strong, An Enemy of the People Michael Stuhlbarg, Patriots
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