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Post by Nikan on Mar 16, 2024 12:28:58 GMT
  Please specify either's screenplay too if you wanna single it out; I forgot to include em. |
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Post by Archie on Mar 16, 2024 12:37:28 GMT
Good lord. Wolf for EVERYTHING.
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Post by TheAlwaysClassy on Mar 16, 2024 12:42:53 GMT
WoWS for everything except Production Design, and that's still pretty close in my estimation.
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Post by stabcaesar on Mar 16, 2024 12:46:59 GMT
Oppenheimer for everything. Fuck The Wolf of Wall Street.
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Post by Archie on Mar 16, 2024 12:49:06 GMT
"Which 3hrs epic that fly by their runtime you prefer?"
That's pretty funny. Because Oppenheimer felt like 6 hours to me. And I can literally watch Wolf anytime.
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Post by Nikan on Mar 16, 2024 16:02:23 GMT
"Which 3hrs epic that fly by their runtime you prefer?" That's pretty funny. Because Oppenheimer felt like 6 hours to me. And I can literally watch Wolf anytime. The pacing of Oppie (which has its editing and direction to thank) is my favorite aspect of it actually; music and acting and nice long shots come after that. Wish he could land Rises like this too. |
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Post by quetee on Mar 16, 2024 17:34:32 GMT
Wolf is 11 years old and is still relevant. Will be interesting to see what happens with Oppenheimer in same time period.
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Post by franklin on Mar 16, 2024 23:41:50 GMT
I feel like The Aviator is a better comparison.
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Post by Nikan on Mar 17, 2024 0:18:03 GMT
I feel like The Aviator is a better comparison. Oh yeah? Make one thread yourself smartass. jk  it seems so far away in history I almost forgot about it but it is also Nolan-related in a way so could have a place with these two yeah |
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Mar 17, 2024 3:50:51 GMT
Love both, but I'm not sure WoWS quite earns that runtime and I do start to feel its length in its final stretch. I think it has some fat that could be trimmed down, whereas Oppenheimer is maybe one of the tightest 3-hour movies I've ever seen.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Mar 17, 2024 5:42:48 GMT
Lead - Murphy is doing astonishing work as Oppy, but Leo gives an all-timer of a performance in Wolf and this along with Django Unchained unlocked a playfulness in him that has leveled him up as an actor since. Seriously, who the hell knew that Leo was one of the most gifted physical comedians of our time?
Supporting Actor - Downey pretty easily for me. Hill is great (though I prefer McConaughey), but RDJ is giving a masterclass in using every muscle of his face to emote and elicit presence.
Supporting Actress - No contest, it's Robbie. An immediate star-making performance the likes of which we rarely see.
Ensemble - Both are great and the best of their respective years. I do tend to lean towards comedy ensembles since I think the timing and interplay between actors is so damn critical and less prone to editorial influence, so I go with Wolf which doesn't have an even slightly off performance in the bunch.
Editing - Again, both are the best of their respective years, but I go with Wolf which is not just dizzying in its pace (probably alongside Titanic with 3-hour+ movies I've seen the most) but is employing such a wide range of techniques to utter perfection.
Cinematography - Oppenheimer gets this one pretty easily. I absolutely adore the way Hoytema used depth of field and lighting for the subjectivity of the characters as well as using the full IMAX frame to its fullest, grandest effect be it vistas or giant closeups.
Production Design - Going with Wolf on this one for the variety of its sets and locations as well as the specificity of its geography. Oppenheimer isn't poor in this department, but given the nature of its setting it's a lot of conference rooms and open desert.
Soundtrack - Oppenheimer is wall-to-wall score and all of it is pivotal to the mood. Wolf is perhaps Scorsese's peak of utilizing pre-made music and there's not a bad song in the bunch, but it isn't quite as vital.
Direction - Both are massive accomplishments, but I find Marty's the greatest achievement in part because its tonal ambitions strike me as being so insanely difficult and the fact he nailed it with such aplomb is astonishing.
Overall - Yeah, it's Wolf.
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it seems so far away in history I almost forgot about it but it is also Nolan-related in a way so could have a place with these two yeah
