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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 11, 2024 10:31:49 GMT
This popped into my head watching (the incredible) Emma Stone's totally fncking awesome Oscar win........ Glenn Close is pretty great in Hamlet..... .Lange is pretty memorable in Titus........ McDormand is great AS McDormand in TTOM - although she is very much "McDormand playing "Lady Macbeth"" rather than straightforwardly playing Lady Macbeth - I reviewed her here.........she's great but (also) too old to really be "Lady Macbeth" for me movie-awards-redux.freeforums.net/post/395160Chastain could be a GREAT Shakesperean actress if you've seen her handle the Salome classical text (not Shakespeare but similar trappings there) and she's playing Goneril allegedely in Pacino's Lear which I still doubt will get made tbh  ...........and I would tell you that Emma Stone could be a GREAT Lady Macbeth too......and an age appropriate one.......and a sexy one (a big part of that role obviously) and a funny one.......... Michelle Williams could do it I bet..... Annette Bening would have been great in many roles........and is in McKellen's Richard III memorably too....... Chastain I think could play King Lear herself actually...........hmmmmmmmmmmm  |
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Post by TylerDeneuve on Mar 11, 2024 13:00:44 GMT
Claire Danes as Juliet is probably one that should be mentioned... That is the definitive film adaptation for a lot of people (the professor who taught my Shakespeare course in college among them!  ). Of the ones in your OP, I'd say Glenn Close's is my favorite performance, but I don't feel comfortable labeling her the "best American Shakespearian actress". I think any number of American women would be great... It's just they're rarely given the opportunity! |
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 11, 2024 13:43:27 GMT
Claire Danes as Juliet is probably one that should be mentioned... That is the definitive film adaptation for a lot of people (the professor who taught my Shakespeare course in college among them! ). Of the ones in your OP, I'd say Glenn Close's is my favorite performance, but I don't feel comfortable labeling her the "best American Shakespearian actress". I think any number of American women would be great... It's just they're rarely given the opportunity!Yeah - we have a lot of men doing Shakespeare threads - but the mentions of woman are always just appendages to them...where is OUR Glenda Jackson as Lear ffs .............I'm talking about sort of commanding female Shakesperean performance........I'll tell you who could do it and be terrifying as one of Lear's daughters - Goneril or Regan - and she'd be a great Iago (I got Chastain as Lear already )....... Laura Dern ........I know she's not everybody's cup of tea but she has that fearless - left of center gravitas........she would be a bonkers Iago, a Bonkers Lady Macbeth......when younger I'd cast her as an odd Ophelia......... The David Lynch fans on MAR are silent because Shakespeare scares them .........cowards!  |
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Post by TylerDeneuve on Mar 11, 2024 14:16:58 GMT
Honestly, the actress I can't stop thinking of since you posted this thread is Joan Allen! Her performances in The Crucible and The Mists of Avalon are searing...
Anjelica Huston was almost cast as Zeffirelli's Juliet, and she was Marianne Faithfull's understudy as Ophelia on the West End stage... I'd love to see her incredible face framed by Polanski in a Shakespearean adaptation.
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Post by stephen on Mar 11, 2024 14:18:35 GMT
Considering Kathryn Hunter is American-born, I'd say it's her.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 11, 2024 14:32:03 GMT
See, I think Joan Allen is exactly what I'm looking for more than Kathryn Hunter - who while great - the best maybe - and daring - doesn't evoke anything "American" in her acting......... What I like about Allen - and Close is that they are very clearly Americans in their attributes as they relate to the possible texts........also btw, if Pacino's Lear happens - sure I'll pretend, why not - Lily Rabe could play Regan to Chastain's Goneril...I saw her in Merchant of Venice as Portia with him an she was really great......  |
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Post by TylerDeneuve on Mar 11, 2024 14:35:26 GMT
pacinoyes - I know you don't love her, but... I could definitely see Gwyneth Paltrow as one of Lear's daughters. She was actually meant to play Lear with Anthony Hopkins, Naomi Watts, and Keira Knightley in a scrapped Aughts film adaptation. The only American!
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 11, 2024 14:41:06 GMT
pacinoyes - I know you don't love her, but... I could definitely see Gwyneth Paltrow as one of Lear's daughters. She was actually meant to play Lear with Anthony Hopkins, Naomi Watts, and Keira Knightley in a scrapped Aughts film adaptation. The only American! Oh see I could see that ........I could see her as Regan OR Cordelia.........also btw Hopkins got Pugh for his Cordelia........who could play THAT for an American? Late 20s? Early 30s? At one time.........Danes.......Dunst ............could have been striking Cordelia's........now........I'm not so sure |
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Post by TylerDeneuve on Mar 11, 2024 14:45:13 GMT
pacinoyes - Amanda Seyfried, maybe? Her hair needs to be styled in a medieval/Renaissance fashion... Seriously, it's like spun gold is just cascading from her head.  My first thought was an Australian... Mia Wasikowska. Edit: Margaret Qualley!!!
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 11, 2024 19:28:45 GMT
pacinoyes - Amanda Seyfried, maybe? Her hair needs to be styled in a medieval/Renaissance fashion... Seriously, it's like spun gold is just cascading from her head. My first thought was an Australian... Mia Wasikowska. Edit: Margaret Qualley!!! I would LOVE Qualley to be Cordelia ........I don't know how she is with that text........ Cordelia is an odd part because there are ways to stage it that totally minimize her in relation to Lear.........like all she is, is the "good daughter" so she has to convey an inherent sweetness.......the Hopkins version almost cuts Pugh out entirely ........although in her limited time she's quite effective...... At one time Winona Ryder could have done it - in The Godfather Part 3 Cordelia /Mary role which she dropped out of ........or in a literal Lear ...she had a flirtation with Shakespeare at one time........at one time could have also been a memorable Juliet in how the camera captures the beautiful 1990s face: As Lady Anne iin the seduction scene from Pac's Looking For Richard (1996)  |
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 12, 2024 18:22:57 GMT
Another of those American-Brits - born in the US - the kind of great (in Saint Maud for one) Jennifer Ehle who has played Lady Anne in DICK 3 (um) and Gertrude in Hamlet on stage and Lady Macbeth.......she could actually play The Fool in Lear and be great at it.......she's a weird actress in that sometimes she can sseem quite American and others completely British..........  |
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Post by pupdurcs on Mar 12, 2024 19:54:42 GMT
Don't know about her being the "best", but Angela Bassett is a serious Shakespearean actress, who has played Lady Macbeth at the New York Shakespeare festival in a production of Macbeth in 1998 (directed by George C Wolfe). She's also done stage productions of Henry IV and Pericles. And she still has the lines of Lady Macbeth committed to memory
Viola Davis has done three Shakespeare plays on stage. Measure For Measure (As Isabella), As You Like It ( As Denise) and Pericles. A very accomplished Shakespearean and classical actress and she knows it. Davis might be the answer. She may need to remind people with another play or film though.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 12, 2024 22:55:46 GMT
Laura Linney? I don't know if she's done Shakespeare but she has done a lot of classical work that is difficult......and she's a theater pro.........and of course she was in Ozark which is sort of like Shakespeare for dumb people..kidding, kidding, I liked it too  She's very typically American too...... 
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...........and I would tell you that Emma Stone could be a GREAT Lady Macbeth too......and an age appropriate one.......and a sexy one (a big part of that role obviously) and a funny one..........
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