How would Dune Part Two have affected the race…?

We would actually have a fucking clue about the VFX category.

Come on, man.

I thought Butler was great in Dune: Part Two but there's no way he's breaking that top five in Supporting Actor. It has nothing to do with the quality of his performance but rather the depth of his competition.

"Best of the year"-level reviews . . . in March. And yes, people are delighted by the performance (as they ought to be), but just as many people are raving about Bardem's performance in that movie (again, as they should). No one's denying the reviews are great, but I am sure that if I took the time, I could find equally effusive tweets raving every single nominee.

But if you take into account the sort of movie Dune: Part Two is, and the way the performance is hampered by comparatively much less screentime than anyone who got nominated this year, I just don't think he'd have had a prayer to crack that field.

Dune: Part Two would've gotten wrecked by the Nolan train in 2023 (though it might have won VFX). It still has an agonizingly early release date but I feel its win equity is much better for 2024. I still don't think Butler is going to get nominated for it but the proposed Supporting Actor field doesn't seem as stacked thus far, so he'd have a better shot this year than he would have last year.

I have no idea but the conversation around it - going by this thread - would be submental ....just kidding, good talk........fascinating PoV

If only someone other than Denzel had 'discovered' Austin, we'd be spared all this nonsense

i think it makes BP, BD, and possibly screenplay. no acting noms. i think there’d be quite a bit of outrage if denis was snubbed again from the directing lineup, esp since he turns it up to 11 here. i know there’s the argument to give him his flowers for the next one, but still. i couldn’t see this missing BD.

then i could see it winning multiple techs. maybe not as many as the first one just because the stiffer competition this year.

Have you actually seen Dune Part Two? He's barely in the fucking movie and the Oscars would never go for something like this. It's like people predicting Paul Dano for The Batman.

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A load of tech noms, zero acting noms (c’mon), usnsure on Director. Don’t think it’d win much up against Oppy. VFX likely and a shot at cinematography.

Dune: Part One had a far weaker general field to compete against in 2021, and it was the tech juggernaut that had no real major competition that year, and it still missed Best Director. The second film would've had a much more difficult time breaking through the murderer's row we had this year.

The Lord of the Rings comparison is a solid enough one, and like you say, I feel like as long as Dune: Messiah doesn't fall on its face, that's likely where they'll reward it above-the-line . . . but even that's not a guarantee because Lord of the Rings was an unbroken production over three years, so you could more or less assume the quality of the entire production based on Fellowship.

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I think it’d probably bump out Past Lives or Maestro in the Best Pic category. It’d also get nominations in Score, cinematography, costumes, and likely wins in VFX and Makeup.