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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Apr 6, 2024 16:56:01 GMT
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Post by JangoB on Apr 7, 2024 20:36:26 GMT
Rewatched it. Still in love. And now to things that matter: THE BLUE VELVET HOMAGE! You can't catch everything when you watch a movie for the first time (especially a movie this packed with all sorts of excitements), but this is the great virtue of rewatches: your eyes are a bit more open and your senses a bit more alert. Very nice to see Villeneuve pay tribute to his Dune predecessor.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Apr 12, 2024 5:09:50 GMT
Loved every second of it
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Post by ibbi on Apr 12, 2024 13:15:47 GMT
I gave it a 7 the first time, bumped it up to an 8 the second, and I just saw it the third time, and now I have it at a 9. I could easily watch it again too. What vibes. They better let him do the third one.
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Post by Barbie on Apr 26, 2024 21:56:19 GMT
I watched this in IMAX. Visually, it's absolutely stunning. I love the world. I love the palette. I love the score. The production design is fantastic. I wish we could've seen more those suits with the shield that we saw in the first movie. I think they're so cool
The first half of the movie was great. The Harkonnen's especially Butler's Feyd are deliciously evil
And then it FLOPPED. The last 45 mins were BORING. I just didn't give a fuck about anyone . I wasn't emotionally invested. I really don't know why, but that's just how I felt. Intellectually, I get what I'm supposed to feel, but I didn't feel it. It was so anticlimactic. Trust me, I was HYPED in the first 15 mins of this movie. I was so excited and impressed. I thought for sure I was going to watch the best movie of the year, but the last 45 mins including the big battle scene was the opposite of exciting The acting, the ensemble as a whole was great. Butler was the best. He is a fantastic actor, and I hope everyone who unfairly hated on the poor guy during his Elvis campaign ate crow. I was already impressed with him as Elvis (imperfect performance but promising), and he knocked it out of the park here. Committed and fearless, I loved watching him. I enjoyed watching Rebecca Ferguson as well, and she was better here than in Dune. There's this one scene where her fetus is speaking to her and how her face slowly turned sinister was awesome to watch. Skarsgard was of course fantastic. I wanted to see more of Lea Seydoux. She made such good use of her little screentime
The two weakest in the ensemble were funnily enough the two biggest names, Timmy and Zendaya. They have NO CHEMISTRY. It's actually really weird how they have no chemistry. I don't know what happened with Timmy. After Paul drank the blue stuff, Timmy's performance dipped in quality. I was very impressed by his acting in Dune. I thought he carried that movie wonderfully. Here, he wasn't as good, and he was unconvincing. I feel like Zendaya's midness rubbed off on him. Speaking of, she's not a good actor. I'm truly baffled by the praise she's gotten for her shockingly amateur performance. Her only good scene was the last scene where there was some authenticity. Other than that, it was "Oh look. That's Zendaya the red carpet celebrity acting in a movie furrowing her brows and looking angry like she's in a perfume commercial". She once again showed how lazy she is. Chani having an American accent when the rest of the Fremen don't took me out of believing she's Fremen. The accent wouldn't have been a problem if she was a strong actor but she's not. She can only frown or scowl, and she does this in ALL her performances. Thank god she's gorgeous to look at because she's not very talented and certainly not even close to the hype (yes I've watched Euphoria and she's overhyped in that too)
Ultimately, I realized that this movie has very little heart. I compare this movie to Avatar. Avatar also has a "basic" story of oppressed vs. oppressor, colonized vs. colonizer, yet I was so emotionally invested while watching Avatar. I bawled while watching Avatar, but I emotionally checked out during Dune 2. Not even the eerie parallels to how the Fremen were attacked with what's happening in Palestine made me feel anything. It was a fun movie, but that's all it is.
7/10
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Post by Barbie on Apr 26, 2024 22:03:41 GMT
Still didn't love it but it's a significant improvement over the first which felt like 2 and a half hours of exposition and set up. It still feels like that a lot of the time here, maybe for the first hour and then it doesn't really become good until the last hour or so. It gets better as it goes along though. Butler is 100% the MVP and it's at its best whenever he's on screen. All the raves are true. Will def be in my supporting actor lineup at the end of the year and I could see him being my win depending on how tough the competition is. I'm sold on him now, the way he uses his body and his physicality is tremendous and reminds me a little of young De Niro. Look at both this and Elvis, completely different in the more obvious ways of course but also in that one where he's playing a real person with tons of film on him and here he's playing a fictional character in a completely made up setting. Both times his character work is excellent and the way he moves, his gestures exc are completely unique to the character. I'm sold on him now and I can't wait to see what he does, he clearly works as hard as everyone says on his character building before he shoots. If it had just been once on Elvis it might have been a flash in the pan but to do it twice in a row tells you something. Obviously has a huge cast with tons of pros, Bardem, Walken, Rampling, Brolin, Seydoux, Ferguson, Skarsgard, Pugh. They're all solid but a lot of them are relegated to being exposition depositories unfortunately. I did really enjoy Butler and Seydoux's one scene together. Probably the best of the movie. I'd watch a romantic drama with them together, terrific chemistry in just that little bit, even with Butler acting like a maniac. Better chemistry than Chalamet and Zendaya in fact. Speaking of which, the biggest problem here is the two leads. Chalamet is just not a good dramatic actor. I never buy him for a second as anyone other than an actor saying lines on a movie set. I know Paul's one of those standard Skywalker/Potter protagonists as Nikon alluded to but you can at least be personable enough to feel somewhat like a real person. I think Zendaya was just miscast, never bought her as someone who had been living outdoors and sleeping in tents her whole life. Then there was just no spark between them. As I said you get more from that one little scene with Butler and Seydoux than you ever do from them when they get chance after chance. When their puppy love scenes would come on I'd just want it to cut back to Butler or to the Pugh/Walken/Rampling court intrigue stuff. If there's another issue I'd actually say it's the direction. Villeneuve at this point feels like he's more interested in just stringing as many cool shots as he can together rather than creating cohesive scenes and in the nuts and bolts of direction. I guess I wouldn't call it lazy given how much work he puts into everything else, but I think shallow is a good word for it. Starting with BR2049 it's like he's become the Michael Bay for grownups. Kind of feel the same way about the techs, the CG is detailed and technically good and it took a huge physical effort to build those huge sets but I'm not getting anything from the world. It feels like any old space opera to me. I swear the guy must be color blind at this point. He even had a monochrome planet in the movie this time which feels like the culmination of everything he's been working towards. None of the action is that great either. Anyway, a 7/10 seems fair to me. Spent a lot of time on the criticisms but I really enjoyed Butler and the story comes together really well in the last act so it was alright. Might rewatch it on streaming one day. Totally agree about Butler. I'm so excited to watch his future projects.
I agree with you about Timmy's performance here, but apart him his performance here, I think he's a good dramatic actor. He carried Dune really well, but here, he fell short. Not sure why. My theory is Zendaya's mediocrity rubbed off on him.
I also agree about the shallowness in this film. That's how I felt. It's just very surface level, and I think that's a big reason why I just wasn't emotionally invested.
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