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Post by Nikan on Feb 21, 2024 1:13:30 GMT
Where do you rank him? Who do you group him with (in themes and style)?
Name faves, talk shit criticism, etc.
Inspired by me finally watching his debut and deciding to leave him be for a while. (Fucking hell.)
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Post by Film Socialism on Feb 21, 2024 17:01:16 GMT
first a comment on his reputation/legacy: when i was getting into film heavily a decadeish ago, he was kinda /the/ european auteur. he had a pretty rich filmography filled with deep cuts and his style was surprisingly diverse for someone considered austere. nowadays, you almost never hear about him in casual talk - granted that's due to him putting out exactly one movie in the last eleven years (one that didn't really generate much hype or acclaim outside of it being his awaited follow-up to his maybe most acclaimed movie). it's not even like people stopped liking his older material, or that it aged in a weird way, or that he was cancelled or his themes became faux-pas or anything like that - just seemed like interest for him dried up.
anyways, i haven't watched any of his films in a long time, but i do think Cache is frankly some incredible work and i like his other films to varying degrees. i find his newer work a bit weaker compared to his middle period run, but i do want to check out his early stuff sometime, even if it's hard to work up interest since nobody really seems to hype me up for him anymore lol.
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Post by Martin Stett on Feb 21, 2024 17:07:46 GMT
I've only seen Funny Games remake, Amour, The Piano Teacher and Cache, but the guy strikes me as your typical misanthrope European arthouse bullshit director, similar to von Trier (although not quite as terrible). I find it hard to admire anything so steeped in ugliness as his films. Like, why the hell should I bother with someone that so clearly hates life and humanity?
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 21, 2024 17:32:50 GMT
Like, why the hell should I bother with someone that so clearly hates life and humanity? Some people think I'm occasionally cruelly funny and also know a lot about bands and stuff Martin   |
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Post by Nikan on Feb 21, 2024 17:44:03 GMT
first a comment on his reputation/legacy: when i was getting into film heavily a decadeish ago, he was kinda /the/ european auteur. he had a pretty rich filmography filled with deep cuts and his style was surprisingly diverse for someone considered austere. nowadays, you almost never hear about him in casual talk - granted that's due to him putting out exactly one movie in the last eleven years (one that didn't really generate much hype or acclaim outside of it being his awaited follow-up to his maybe most acclaimed movie). it's not even like people stopped liking his older material, or that it aged in a weird way, or that he was cancelled or his themes became faux-pas or anything like that - just seemed like interest for him dried up. I imagine he's out of things to say for the time being... he warned us about media and now everyone just netflixes and chills lol. |
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Post by JangoB on Feb 21, 2024 17:45:58 GMT
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Post by Nikan on Feb 21, 2024 17:58:31 GMT
I've only seen Funny Games remake, Amour, The Piano Teacher and Cache, but the guy strikes me as your typical misanthrope European arthouse bullshit director, similar to von Trier (although not quite as terrible). I find it hard to admire anything so steeped in ugliness as his films. Like, why the hell should I bother with someone that so clearly hates life and humanity? Does making films about the darkness of lives automatically mean it's creator "hates life and humanity" though? I mean I get what you're saying, there are some films I'd call ugly too ( Eyes of My Mother, anyone?)... but the "shock value" of a Haneke has never seemed to me to be just to bring the viewer down (though it totally does that as well) but to point at something greater... he's like Tarkovsky in that way - minus the wandering child and the Bach softenings/even nature seems sinister with him - that whenever a film of his ends I feel I've seen something refreshingly adult, he provoces feelings in an unusually clinical, matter-of-fact way. There's something reflective about "the ugliness" of his works... but yeah, they're never fun. |
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Post by Martin Stett on Feb 21, 2024 18:07:29 GMT
I've only seen Funny Games remake, Amour, The Piano Teacher and Cache, but the guy strikes me as your typical misanthrope European arthouse bullshit director, similar to von Trier (although not quite as terrible). I find it hard to admire anything so steeped in ugliness as his films. Like, why the hell should I bother with someone that so clearly hates life and humanity? Does making films about the darkness of lives automatically mean it's creator "hates life and humanity" though? I mean I get what you're saying, there are some films I'd call ugly too ( Eyes of My Mother, anyone?)... but the "shock value" of a Haneke has never seemed to me to be just to bring the viewer down (though it totally does that as well) but to point at something greater... he's like Tarkovsky in that way - minus the wandering child and the Bach softenings/even nature seems sinister with him - that whenever a film of his ends I feel I've seen something refreshingly adult, he provoces feelings in an unusually clinical, matter-of-fact way. There's something reflective about "the ugliness" of his works... but yeah, they're never fun. I think he at least attempts to have something to say (unlike von Trier), but his style is so alienating that I can't bring myself to care. Funny Games is a one-note, screeching pamphlet of a movie. The Piano Teacher could have been an excellent story about abusive parenting, but it just becomes lurid instead of offering anything constructive about its subject. (I can't be more specific, I've pretty much forgotten it.) |
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Post by DanQuixote on Feb 21, 2024 18:34:53 GMT
Caché, The Piano Teacher and The White Ribbon are all astounding. Loved Amour when I saw it, but I’m keen to watch it again. A fan of the rest of his work too. I hope he comes back soon, but I doubt it happens.
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Post by urbanpatrician on Mar 7, 2024 10:17:24 GMT
first a comment on his reputation/legacy: when i was getting into film heavily a decadeish ago, he was kinda /the/ european auteur. he had a pretty rich filmography filled with deep cuts and his style was surprisingly diverse for someone considered austere. nowadays, you almost never hear about him in casual talk - granted that's due to him putting out exactly one movie in the last eleven years (one that didn't really generate much hype or acclaim outside of it being his awaited follow-up to his maybe most acclaimed movie). it's not even like people stopped liking his older material, or that it aged in a weird way, or that he was cancelled or his themes became faux-pas or anything like that - just seemed like interest for him dried up. anyways, i haven't watched any of his films in a long time, but i do think Cache is frankly some incredible work and i like his other films to varying degrees. i find his newer work a bit weaker compared to his middle period run, but i do want to check out his early stuff sometime, even if it's hard to work up interest since nobody really seems to hype me up for him anymore lol. I think it's same the thing as Payne (in the 10 years prior to The Holdovers), Von Trier (after Melancholia), Cameron (after Avatar), and Malick (after The Tree of Life). When you don't do anything that the majority likes enough for a long time, people forget about you. Unless you have a film ranked in the Top 50 all time according to the majority audience, which none of those do. It's the same thing with music, really. |
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Post by stabcaesar on Mar 7, 2024 10:54:10 GMT
I've only seen Funny Games remake, Amour, The Piano Teacher and Cache, but the guy strikes me as your typical misanthrope European arthouse bullshit director, similar to von Trier (although not quite as terrible). I find it hard to admire anything so steeped in ugliness as his films. Like, why the hell should I bother with someone that so clearly hates life and humanity? I mean humanity is mostly fucking evil so his films are more like observation rather than his own philosophy. |
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Post by Martin Stett on Mar 7, 2024 14:05:12 GMT
I've only seen Funny Games remake, Amour, The Piano Teacher and Cache, but the guy strikes me as your typical misanthrope European arthouse bullshit director, similar to von Trier (although not quite as terrible). I find it hard to admire anything so steeped in ugliness as his films. Like, why the hell should I bother with someone that so clearly hates life and humanity? I mean humanity is mostly fucking evil so his films are more like observation rather than his own philosophy. I concur. I don't need some poser with a camera to tell me this with no further observations or questions |
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