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Post by Nikan on Feb 19, 2024 20:40:31 GMT
Thinking getting released this early into the year will hurt it's chances... and the previous one won 6...
And do you see Jacqueline West receiving her due?
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Feb 19, 2024 20:42:50 GMT
I don’t think the early release will necessarily hurt it, but it’s far too early to make any actual predictions on it.
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Post by stephen on Feb 19, 2024 20:43:49 GMT
It really depends. Tech-wise it's up against Furiosa which is a direct prequel to a colossal juggernaut that damn near swept the tech field in 2015, and could very well be the case here. (I know there are other big blockbusters in the wings, but if we're comparing previous Oscar-winning installments of a franchise, that's the one that's directly vying for attention.)
The early word is stellar for Dune: Part Two, but it's also got the downside of an extremely early release date (WHY????) and the constant winking references to a potential adaptation of Dune: Messiah, which would rob any sort of urgency to recognize Villeneuve's accomplishments now if they can just wait for an inevitable third go-around.
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Post by Nikan on Feb 19, 2024 21:03:29 GMT
The early word is stellar for Dune: Part Two, but it's also got the downside of an extremely early release date (WHY????) and the constant winking references to a potential adaptation of Dune: Messiah, which would rob any sort of urgency to recognize Villeneuve's accomplishments now if they can just wait for an inevitable third go-around. With these two aside, do you think they award Fraser*, Zimmer and the special effects team this soon again? *I know it was just 2 years between Deakens' wins too but still... and they were not for the same grand project. |
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Post by stephen on Feb 19, 2024 21:38:09 GMT
The early word is stellar for Dune: Part Two, but it's also got the downside of an extremely early release date (WHY????) and the constant winking references to a potential adaptation of Dune: Messiah, which would rob any sort of urgency to recognize Villeneuve's accomplishments now if they can just wait for an inevitable third go-around. With these two aside, do you think they award Fraser*, Zimmer and the special effects team this soon again? *I know it was just 2 years between Deakens' wins too but still... and they were not for the same grand project. I doubt they'd have an issue with it. The Lord of the Rings swept several techs in consecutive years, and Dune benefits from the COVID years being weirdly dilated. |
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Post by JangoB on Feb 19, 2024 21:56:40 GMT
I don't think the early release date will impact it in any way. It's a huge event movie, nobody's gonna forget about it.
Obviously it's crazy to talk about anything awards-related at this point, but I do feel somewhat comfortable already calling it a lock for VFX. I'm sure AMPAS won't have any trouble voting for it in Sound either. Of course stuff like Cinematography, Production Design, Editing and Score will be in contention but the Academy can be a bit stingier with giving out those to sequels. It's all a bit impossible to tell at this point since we don't know the field of players yet.
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Post by paulgallo on Feb 19, 2024 23:39:18 GMT
From an Oscars standpoint the delay was the best thing that could happen to this film as it will have far better chances at next year's ceremony than at this one. Villeneuve would never have gotten into this year's director lineup and the film likely would have missed adapted screenplay, too. Acting-wise it's not a contender anyway and below the line Oppenheimer and Poor Things/Barbie would have edged it out. Best Picture as sole above the line nomination and a sole VFX win would have been the most likely scenario.
While it's impossible to tell how exactly the 2024 contenders will look like it's fair to say that Dune 2 will likely have an easier path in the craft categories. The Furiosa trailer looked rough and I doubt Miller will pull the trick off for a second time. The academy has also clearly demonstrated that they don't care about the Planet of the Apes movies. Ridley Scott and Coppola haven't been too relevant at the Oscars for some time now so I doubt that Gladiator 2 and Megalopolis will be big contenders.
Since the strikes impacted this year's slate quite a bit I also fear that the above the line contenders won't be as strong as the 2023 slate so Dune 2 should have a shot at noms for screenplay and director.
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Post by paulgallo on Feb 22, 2024 21:19:35 GMT
After seeing it at a press screening I feel confident to predict zero wins above the line.
That has nothing to do with its quality though.
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Post by Brother Fease on Feb 22, 2024 21:58:33 GMT
Thinking getting released this early into the year will hurt it's chances... and the previous one won 6... And do you see Jacqueline West receiving her due? Why would you say that?
Next November, Warner Brothers is going to campaign for the film. Screeners will be passed out. Release date doesn't really matter, when big studio campaigns make sure you don't forget their film.
I fully expect a Best Picture nomination and plenty of technicals. The real debate will be about directing, acting, screenplay, and editing. I suspect, we're going to see the film get more acclaim than the original. All of the reviews point to this one being better than part 1.
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Post by Nikan on Feb 22, 2024 23:55:41 GMT
Thinking getting released this early into the year will hurt it's chances... and the previous one won 6... And do you see Jacqueline West receiving her due? Why would you say that? Just a hunch old-timer. |
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