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Post by pupdurcs on Feb 5, 2024 1:41:47 GMT
Francis Ford Coppola's The Conversation being made into a limited series for Paramount. Rumours are that the Gene Hackman role might be gender swapped and potentially played by Aubrey Plaza.
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Post by stephen on Feb 5, 2024 2:09:35 GMT
Sure, why not?
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Post by Martin Stett on Feb 5, 2024 2:17:09 GMT
On the one hand, remaking a masterpiece (if the Aubrey Plaza rumors are true, with a faaaaaar inferior actor) is a terrible idea. What do you have to add?
On the other hand, Chandor took a swing at a faux-Godfather movie and it rocked.
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Post by pupdurcs on Feb 5, 2024 2:17:19 GMT
Guess The Conversation doesn't count as a sacrosanct masterpiece to for you? I feel like there'd be an uproar if they tried to do The Godfather as a TV show. I dunno, I guess The Conversation could be remade and updated, I just expected more typical cinephile resistance to it (not just you though, btw) |
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Post by stephen on Feb 5, 2024 2:20:36 GMT
Guess The Conversation doesn't count as a sacrosanct masterpiece to for you? I feel like there'd be an uproar if they tried to do The Godfather as a TV show. I dunno, I think The Conversation could be remade and updated, I just expected more typical cinephile resistance to it. Its existence doesn't affect the original movie at all, and I can see a lot being done with the subject matter in this era. I'm not the biggest fan of Aubrey Plaza but I am more than willing to give it a shot. I mean, best case scenario is we get a Dead Ringers-level series that stands on its own two feet alongside the original film. Worst case scenario, I'll just rewatch the 1974 film. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 5, 2024 2:23:43 GMT
I dunno man, the premise of The Conversation (my #2 all-time dontchaknow) came from a masterpiece earlier (Blow Up), was itself a masterpiece, and improbably somehow lead to another masterpiece (Blow Out) I'mmina say you can't get a great thing out of it again.........although in the Internet / loss of privacy era you theretically could.........quite easily as the movie is more relevant now than when it was made Ok, sure, why not   |
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Feb 5, 2024 3:18:08 GMT
I think there could be some potential there given our current surveillance state, but I'm worried about the trajectory of Chandor's career. After A Most Violent Year it felt like he was close to really hitting it out of the park and planting his flag as a major American auteur and since then he's had a pretty alright Netflix action movie and I just found out he's the one doing Kraven the Hunter? It just feels like he's getting lost in the sauce and so the idea of remaking The Conversation is the next best chance he could find of getting something made by raiding Paramount IP.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Feb 5, 2024 4:38:15 GMT
I just found out he's the one doing Kraven the Hunter? whaaaaatttt This is news to me as well...  |
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Post by pupdurcs on Feb 5, 2024 4:54:37 GMT
I think there could be some potential there given our current surveillance state, but I'm worried about the trajectory of Chandor's career. After A Most Violent Year it felt like he was close to really hitting it out of the park and planting his flag as a major American auteur and since then he's had a pretty alright Netflix action movie and I just found out he's the one doing Kraven the Hunter? It just feels like he's getting lost in the sauce and so the idea of remaking The Conversation is the next best chance he could find of getting something made by raiding Paramount IP. It's a tough business. Chandor's earlier films got him good reviews and critical respect, but they weren't making much money. And he probably wasn't making much money by the standards of some of his peers. It's not easy living in Hollywood like Chandor, to resist the temptation of big paydays to make studio tentpoles after years of making the bare minimum on low budget independent films. Pay the mortgage. Send his kids to good schools. He probably made more money for Triple Frontier and Kraven The Hunter than he's ever seen before. Not everyone can be like Christopher Nolan or Quentin Tarantino, where their auteur sensibilities also have commercial appeal. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 5, 2024 12:27:39 GMT
One of the things that makes adapting The Conversation hard is the film has things in it that work against Harry Caul as a character..........it may sound better as a general idea than it is "remaking The Conversation" specifically - for example: Harry Caul is not, in any way "a loner" - the way a dumb person would write the script: Harry goes out, has a girlfriend (or some level of intimacy), drinks socially, forms connections - tenuous but they are there, goes to conventions where he's king shit......had a whole past life back East.......the great in-joke is that Harry desperately craves human contact - in fact his unraveling comes after the Teri Garr scene when he loses it somewhat......and the mechanism of his job mocks his attempts at that - hilariously btw: For someone so good at his job he doesn't seem it - a present in the apartment despite all those locks, recorded by a pen, stolen tapes (duplicitous females are all over, natch).......his girlfriend freakin catches him spying on her - how good is he at this shit anyway? This contradictory aspect of Harry Caul is what makes The Conversation so great - greater even than its 2 masterpiece connected films Blow Up and Blow Out........it has many counterintuitive things in the source material that nowadays writers tend to smooth over and The Conversation makes as artistic points explicitly........it's so great really........  |
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Post by ibbi on Feb 5, 2024 14:46:13 GMT
I mean, the material definitely works, and wasn't exactly original when Coppola did it himself, so I'm not entirely opposed to the idea, especially in long form.
I do wonder how much resemblance it will bear to that movie, or if more than anything they're just using the name to get eyeballs on the thing. Regardless, in Chandor I trust. That guy is 4/4.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Feb 5, 2024 16:42:07 GMT
It'll end up being more Enemy of the State than The Conversation.
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Post by Martin Stett on Feb 5, 2024 21:28:30 GMT
It'll end up being more Enemy of the State than The Conversation. Not necessarily a bad thing tbh |
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Feb 6, 2024 15:47:50 GMT
they had me until Paramount.
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Post by ibbi on Feb 6, 2024 20:35:36 GMT
It'll end up being more Enemy of the State than The Conversation. Enemy of the State is basically a sequel to The Conversation, AND A WONDERFUL ONE! |
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