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Post by stephen on Jan 9, 2024 17:13:35 GMT
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Post by Brother Fease on Jan 9, 2024 17:19:16 GMT
Is my eyes deceiving me or is Mission Impossible getting ADG and MPSE love? I didn’t do a Will It Oscar thread because the other films went blank.
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Post by Nikan on Jan 9, 2024 17:19:42 GMT
mmm.
*Napoleon had real vibe-worthy sets and costumes going for it... Gawd I wish it wasn't such a waste.
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Post by JangoB on Jan 9, 2024 17:22:14 GMT
Is my eyes deceiving me or is Mission Impossible getting ADG and MPSE love? I didn’t do a Will It Oscar thread because the other films went blank. The MPSE nominations will be announced on Jan 15. But I'm sure it'll be there. And to be fair, Fallout (the pinnacle of MI success) got ADG and MPSE nods too (even a BAFTA Sound nomination!) and was snubbed at the Oscars.
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Post by JangoB on Jan 9, 2024 17:22:52 GMT
At this point it's more like The Color Burple.
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Post by Brother Fease on Jan 9, 2024 17:30:48 GMT
Is my eyes deceiving me or is Mission Impossible getting ADG and MPSE love? I didn’t do a Will It Oscar thread because the other films went blank. The MPSE nominations will be announced on Jan 15. But I'm sure it'll be there. And to be fair, Fallout (the pinnacle of MI success) got ADG and MPSE nods too (even a BAFTA Sound nomination!) and was snubbed at the Oscars. It got a sound nomination. Stephen had it listed under sound nominations.
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Post by JangoB on Jan 9, 2024 17:34:48 GMT
The MPSE nominations will be announced on Jan 15. But I'm sure it'll be there. And to be fair, Fallout (the pinnacle of MI success) got ADG and MPSE nods too (even a BAFTA Sound nomination!) and was snubbed at the Oscars. It got a sound nomination. Stephen had it listed under sound nominations. That wasn't from MPSE, that was from a British organization called AMPS - Association Of Motion Picture Sound. I guess it's like a UK version of Cinema Audio Society.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 9, 2024 17:36:06 GMT
looks like the ADG website delisted the submission PDFs sadly, but you can still see the PDFs for the nominees. The Saltburn presentation was super disappointing, just before-and-after pics for like one set and a couple stills from the movie. Maestro and Napoleon are surprising picks. I would've expected these guys to go with Are You There God or Air based on the submissions (I really underestimated the production design in those movies), and what did Color Purple do to these industry people that they have to bend over backward not to nominate it for anything?? It's absence feels weirder by the day, and if it should've gotten in anywhere it should've been here.
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Post by JangoB on Jan 9, 2024 17:38:41 GMT
Maestro and Napoleon are surprising picks. Really? I dunno, I kinda had no doubts about them getting nominated here. Maestro has been crushing it with the guilds (and they made a great presentation) and Napoleon is, well, Napoleon
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Post by paulgallo on Jan 9, 2024 17:57:42 GMT
and what did Color Purple do to these industry people that they have to bend over backward not to nominate it for anything?? It's absence feels weirder by the day, and if it should've gotten in anywhere it should've been here. Turns out it's not a great campaigning strategy to have a new actor complain about the working conditions during production every day.
The disastrous box office decline after opening day might not have helped its chances either. There are too many negative talking points surrounding the film and the reviews aren't good enough to cancel them out.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 9, 2024 18:43:34 GMT
The disastrous box office decline after opening day might not have helped its chances either. There are too many negative talking points surrounding the film and the reviews aren't good enough to cancel them out.
it's got better reviews than Napoleon or The Creator. And Box Office could not matter less for craft-specific guild awards like this and all the others Purple has been missing, and neither do reviews that much honestly, unless you're Cats-levels of toxic. Their presentation speaks for itself. Feels like Austerberry was kinda robbed here.
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Post by stephen on Jan 9, 2024 18:45:42 GMT
The disastrous box office decline after opening day might not have helped its chances either. There are too many negative talking points surrounding the film and the reviews aren't good enough to cancel them out.
it's got better reviews than Napoleon or The Creator. And Box Office could not matter less for craft-specific guild awards like this and all the others Purple has been missing, and neither do reviews that much honestly, unless you're Cats-levels of toxic. Their presentation speaks for itself. Feels like Austerberry was kinda robbed here. It shouldn't be a surprise a massively scaled period piece like Napoleon (which was also a surprise box office success worldwide) or an inventive sci-fi picture like The Creator would get in here.
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Post by JangoB on Jan 9, 2024 18:48:31 GMT
The disastrous box office decline after opening day might not have helped its chances either. There are too many negative talking points surrounding the film and the reviews aren't good enough to cancel them out.
it's got better reviews than Napoleon or The Creator. And Box Office could not matter less for craft-specific guild awards like this and all the others Purple has been missing, and neither do reviews that much honestly, unless you're Cats-levels of toxic. Their presentation speaks for itself. Feels like Austerberry was kinda robbed here. The Period category was pretty stacked though, just look at what got in. And all of those movies had good presentations too
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 9, 2024 18:53:45 GMT
it's got better reviews than Napoleon or The Creator. And Box Office could not matter less for craft-specific guild awards like this and all the others Purple has been missing, and neither do reviews that much honestly, unless you're Cats-levels of toxic. Their presentation speaks for itself. Feels like Austerberry was kinda robbed here. It shouldn't be a surprise a massively scaled period piece like Napoleon (which was also a surprise box office success worldwide) or an inventive sci-fi picture like The Creator would get in here. The Creator makes sense to me (and the production design along with the sound & VFX are the only things that movie did really well), what doesn't make sense is saying Color Purple didn't get in because of its reviews. haven't seen Napoleon yet but I never got the impression from the marketing that it was a production design player tbh, and their presentation wasn't that impressive so its inclusion was surprising to me given the competition in that category. Maybe they just didn't do a good job showing it off. I'll be seeing it soon.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 9, 2024 19:00:30 GMT
btw I downloaded several of the PDFs a few days ago if anyone wants to check out the ones that didn't get nominated. I've got Air, Are You There God, Chevalier, Dungeons & Dragons, Priscilla, The Color Purple and The Holdovers
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Post by stephen on Jan 9, 2024 19:14:53 GMT
It shouldn't be a surprise a massively scaled period piece like Napoleon (which was also a surprise box office success worldwide) or an inventive sci-fi picture like The Creator would get in here. The Creator makes sense to me (and the production design along with the sound & VFX are the only things that movie did really well), what doesn't make sense is saying Color Purple didn't get in because of its reviews. haven't seen Napoleon yet but I never got the impression from the marketing that it was a production design player tbh, and their presentation wasn't that impressive so its inclusion was surprising to me given the competition in that category. Maybe they just didn't do a good job showing it off. I'll be seeing it soon. It's a massively sumptuous film when it comes to the production design and the sound design, and I expect it'll be a player in both categories come Oscar time.
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Post by JangoB on Jan 9, 2024 19:28:30 GMT
The Creator makes sense to me (and the production design along with the sound & VFX are the only things that movie did really well), what doesn't make sense is saying Color Purple didn't get in because of its reviews. haven't seen Napoleon yet but I never got the impression from the marketing that it was a production design player tbh, and their presentation wasn't that impressive so its inclusion was surprising to me given the competition in that category. Maybe they just didn't do a good job showing it off. I'll be seeing it soon. It's a massively sumptuous film when it comes to the production design and the sound design, and I expect it'll be a player in both categories come Oscar time. I dunno about Sound but I think it can easily nab Production & Costume Design nominations, especially the latter. It ain't The Last Duel - it's a sweeping, grand epic. And it's not regarded as an afterthought like some of Ridley's films tend to be. It seems to have made a dent in the cinematic landscape of 2023.
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Post by stephen on Jan 9, 2024 19:31:10 GMT
It's a massively sumptuous film when it comes to the production design and the sound design, and I expect it'll be a player in both categories come Oscar time. I dunno about Sound but I think it can easily nab Production & Costume Design nominations, especially the latter. It ain't The Last Duel - it's a sweeping, grand epic. And it's not regarded as an afterthought like some of Ridley's films tend to be. It seems to have made a dent in the cinematic landscape of 2023. It's a big loud war film, the only one of its genre this year, for a category that pops a boner for any war films. I don't think it's safe, but I do think it's being massively underestimated in Sound. And yeah, Production and Costumes feel very safe to me (and in a just world would be strong win contenders because goddamn they look good).
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Post by JangoB on Jan 9, 2024 19:33:27 GMT
I dunno about Sound but I think it can easily nab Production & Costume Design nominations, especially the latter. It ain't The Last Duel - it's a sweeping, grand epic. And it's not regarded as an afterthought like some of Ridley's films tend to be. It seems to have made a dent in the cinematic landscape of 2023. It's a big loud war film, the only one of its genre this year, for a category that pops a boner for any war films. I don't think it's safe, but I do think it's being massively underestimated in Sound. And yeah, Production and Costumes feel very safe to me (and in a just world would be strong win contenders because goddamn they look good). It'd certainly make a more deserving Sound nominee than Barbie or Flower Moon, I'll give you that.
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Post by paulgallo on Jan 9, 2024 21:52:56 GMT
It shouldn't be a surprise a massively scaled period piece like Napoleon (which was also a surprise box office success worldwide) or an inventive sci-fi picture like The Creator would get in here. The Creator makes sense to me (and the production design along with the sound & VFX are the only things that movie did really well), what doesn't make sense is saying Color Purple didn't get in because of its reviews.
haven't seen Napoleon yet but I never got the impression from the marketing that it was a production design player tbh, and their presentation wasn't that impressive so its inclusion was surprising to me given the competition in that category. Maybe they just didn't do a good job showing it off. I'll be seeing it soon. That's not what I said though, I said the negative headlines the film is producing currently for the reasons I mentioned have cooled its chances. If The Color Purple had a 95 on Metascore then it would probably get in despite the negative press but since it doesn't have a great critical reception to even out the negativity the Oscar chances of the film are practically dead save for Brooks.
The Creator and Napoleon don't have negative talking points dominating the conversation about them currently so they are not comparable.
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Post by mhynson27 on Feb 11, 2024 5:09:59 GMT
Oppenheimer wins Period
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Post by mhynson27 on Feb 11, 2024 6:46:27 GMT
Poor Things wins Fantasy, Saltburn takes Contemporary and Spider-Verse claims Animated.
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Post by stephen on Feb 11, 2024 6:55:16 GMT
Poor Things upsetting Barbie is a major (and welcome) swerve here. Guess the guilds don't care about the pink paint shortage.
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Post by JangoB on Feb 11, 2024 11:43:53 GMT
Poor Things upsetting Barbie is a major (and welcome) swerve here. Guess the guilds don't care about the pink paint shortage. NICE. I was convinced Barbie was a lock for PD but this gives me hope.
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Post by finniussnrub on Feb 11, 2024 12:35:08 GMT
Hopefully this indicates that the absurd backlash to Gerwig and Robbie not being nominated, twice, is having the opposite impact on voters.
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