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Post by TylerDeneuve on Jan 4, 2024 0:22:16 GMT
A few years ago, I saw this film's ending described as one of the "all time greats"... It's newly streaming on the Criterion Channel as part of their "Sundance Favorites" collection - part of a larger collection of Independent American Cinema, so I was reminded of that bold proclamation once again. Please, share your thoughts on this film (daresay "cultural phenomenon"?) - would you agree with the description above? How would it rank among your personal cannon of horror favorites or American independent films? [/s]
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 4, 2024 1:28:34 GMT
I think it's a kind of all time great - the most interesting thing about it is how it created a whole mythology in its backstory which is actually quite complex......and how some people loved it and others found that (very) slow burn absurd / tiresome. It's a very American kind of myth and also it came out in a year - a great year - where movies were being argued to an insane degree. It almost wasn't about whether it was good or not but rather what kind of movie fan were you? To many people who hated it - The Sixth Sense was the horror of that year - to others The Sixth Sense was comparatively corny - you didn't even "need" to see it. A few years later Paranormal Activity did this exactly the opposite way - at first by swiping the premise, technique and ditching the trappings - by minimizing backstory - but then it had to keep expanding on it anyway so it eventually over several films resembled Blair Witch The movie was pretty fascinating to me because it isn't professionally acted, or shot really or well written but like a lot of things in horror historically (and um, Porn ) it works within its own odd parameters - Heather Donahue was a kind of brilliant lead because she isn't softened........on some level you root against her even when she breaks down THe ending of the film is either brilliant or the biggest nothing rip-off and true story: In the woods near casa de pacinoyes there is a burned out building that totally could be from the movie ........and it freaks me out tbh A movie some of us (ok now it's just me and Mattsby ) talk about a lot on MAR - In The Dark (2000) gets a lot of the same pull as Blair Witch - just a year later - and now has a horror cult that rose up around it like The Blair Witch mythos
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Post by Kings_Requiem on Jan 4, 2024 2:05:30 GMT
Boring, over-hyped trash that, unfortunately, started a cultural phenomenon that is still (somehow) going strong today. It features maybe the most annoying characters in any Horror movie that I've seen. Just incessantly screaming at each other and into the wind the entire movie which is only 80 minutes long and yet feels agonizingly longer. It's not remotely scary, interesting, or even fun to watch. It's just a big dull dud.
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Post by bigmilko on Jan 4, 2024 16:15:01 GMT
Ive seen the movie a good handful of times, and even remember the first time being just whelmed by the movie. Thought it was just fine and could really only just appreciate it for being a part of horror film history. But as Ive been rewatching it, its clicked and quickly become one of few movies that genuinely unnerves me. Not sure when that happened, but I do consider this as the scariest movie ive personally seen.
The big argument Ive heard against the movie is that, theres not even a witch, or nothing even happens, but to me its not the idea of the Blair Witch that gets to me. Its seeing this group of friends getting lost in the woods, losing all sense of sanity to the point they can barely stomach looking at each other without needing to say something horrible. Theyve got no hope and can barely rely on each other anymore, and maybe there might be a witch out there, im not sure.
Regarding the ending, the confirmation of the witch and the house from the urban legend also adds to the terror. Mike running ahead to find Josh, Heather screaming for help as shes left behind. All added by how you can hear Heathers audio creeping closer into the basement, from Joshs dropped audio equipment, as shes still recording on her 16mm camera. Is there a witch, or has everyones sanity finally snapped beyond help?
Personal All-Timer, if I kept a consistent LB Top 4 it'd be in there
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Post by Javi on Jan 4, 2024 17:25:34 GMT
Love it. Perversely clever. Has to be one of the first mainstream movies where the characters use the camera as a shield - to protect them from reality. (25 years later, the entire human race uses their cameras/phones this way). Donahue's ravaged reality show performance is a minor classic. And the fact the witch isn't seen amounts to saying that the witch can't be filmed - that's what's so disturbing to a modern audience - the witch is outside the childish games the kids ('filmmakers') play with their cameras.
I think it works as a comment on the VHS/digital era too. Ghosts and witches looked perfectly at home in the old film era (from Vampyr to The Innocents, film grain agreed with them), but the idea of a ghost on VHS seems laughable (same for digital). Maybe it's totally irrational, but something about the new technology seems to impose limits on imagination. Blair Witch celebrates that brutal lack of imagination while bringing the old fears back.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Jan 4, 2024 19:53:37 GMT
It's a movie I admire despite never actually enjoying. I think the mythology it develops is nicely done (my favorite bits are when it plays more as straight documentary in the first act), I think the marketing campaign is total genius, and I appreciate how much of a landmark it is in low budget horror and the currently rising analog horror genre - which just produced Skinamarink, one of my favorite films of the year and what feels to me like The Blair Witch Project for a new generation. However, I cannot say I actually enjoy watching the film itself. I just don't care to watch these people get stuck in the woods. I do appreciate the ending, which I think does a brilliant job of paying off everything (which makes the fact it was thrown together especially remarkable to me) but by then I've already lost any emotional investment or investment from its dragging 2nd act.
Perhaps due for a rewatch since it's been a good while.
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Post by TylerDeneuve on Jan 4, 2024 21:37:12 GMT
Perhaps due for a rewatch since it's been a good while. I would suggest checking out the faux documentary created in conjunction with the film, Curse of the Blair Witch - it deals directly with the "mythology", which I'm personally more interested in, anyway. It's streaming for free on Tubi right now!
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Post by Mattsby on Jan 4, 2024 22:07:04 GMT
Perhaps due for a rewatch since it's been a good while. I would suggest checking out the faux documentary created in conjunction with the film, Curse of the Blair Witch - it deals directly with the "mythology", which I'm personally more interested in, anyway. It's streaming for free on Tubi right now! This is a great recommendation to those who wish the main movie was more formed and informed. I never heard of it until a few years ago.... Were people talking about this too around the initial release or was it destined to be some gem on the DVD extras? I'm pretty sure it's made of deleted material from the movie - repositioned, cleverly, as a cable promo a week or so before the big theatrical push. But it's interesting, with a really skilled likeness to those kinda "cheap" chiller docs of the era.
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Post by Mattsby on Jan 4, 2024 22:21:36 GMT
A movie some of us (ok now it's just me and Mattsby ) talk about a lot on MAR - In The Dark (2000) gets a lot of the same pull as Blair Witch - just a year later - and now has a horror cult that rose up around it like The Blair Witch mythos Just rewatched IN THE DARK for the third time last week! It still has an underground magic to it - that Blair Witch doesn't anymore? When was it actually made? Who made it and why? Was it a Thesis project for school? Whatever happened to that lead actress, whose perf is quite good (maybe she's still beholden to MOG!!? ) ?? On this rewatch I was thinking of Lynch and Kiyoshi Kurosawa. Also paid closer attention to sounds.... I swear there's a chime (heard twice) that may be a big reveal. Also in the DIY production, there's a transitional cue that I wanna say is a single basketball dribble- cranked up. Games! I once said Fincher should've remade it (based on a book innit) but I think the crude aesthetic is kinda perfect for it. Would work as a series too.....the generative influence of having a flat out genius concept.
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Post by DeepArcher on Jan 4, 2024 22:33:41 GMT
Masterpiece.
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Post by Mattsby on Jan 4, 2024 22:56:47 GMT
I love Blair Witch and the underrated appetizer Curse of the Blair Witch mentioned above. But to be honest......
I love almost all found footage horror. That lowered-guard unpredictability, present-tension.... you're immediately there, privately.... Like something we shouldn't be seeing - as Pacinoyes once put it? It's easy for these kinda movies to be effective, shivering little rips of horror.
What others? REC, Paranormal Activity (especially 3), Hell House LLC, Taking of Deborah Logan, Unfriended, I Blame Society, Host, The Visit, The Dirties, Cloverfield, Creep........etc.
Blair Witch shows up those regional no-budget camcorder horrors of the '80s-90s - almost all of them, that I've seen, have no good hook and saw no clever potential in their limitations. Outside of America tho.....
Ghostwatch (1992) is worth seeing @tyler - it's found footage in shoulder pads and English accent! As the NationalPost called it: "the most compelling hoax on an unsuspecting public since Orson Welles notorious War of the Worlds."
If we really wanna dive deep - Psychic Vision: Jaganrei (1988) outta Japan predates even Ghostwatch in its haunted program trickery.
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Post by Film Socialism on Jan 5, 2024 2:54:59 GMT
singular, mammoth, perfect etc. probably in the top 30 movies i've seen.
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Post by countjohn on Jan 5, 2024 6:10:00 GMT
The marketing campaign was a better work of art than the movie. They went around Sundance handing out missing person's flyers for the characters in the movie with an actual functioning phone line, had the actors listed as dead on IMDB, and posted fake local news segments about the events of the movie online. The fact that people saw the movie and thought it might be real despite how bad the acting and dialogue were tells you how powerful the marketing campaign was.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jan 5, 2024 14:58:07 GMT
I can attest how much uncertainty there was at the time whether this was all real or not.
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Post by ibbi on Jan 5, 2024 18:12:42 GMT
I'd call it one of the all-time greats, sure. Undeniably so in its genre, but it totally transcends it.
It is amazing as a shoestring budget conceit, as a horror story, and heading into the 21st century a prophetic portrait of how NOBODY CAN EVER PUT THE FUCKING CAMERA DOWN.
I remember the days when people used to use that fact as a criticism of it. Of how stupid it was. Now look. It may have been an unintentional by-product of the gimmick needed to make the movie work, but it worked out like a dream.
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