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Post by Pavan on Jun 15, 2023 13:52:24 GMT
Fun in parts thanks to its source material and the main cast but the pedestrian visualization and piss poor CGI ruined some of its highlights but the final battle is the one that suffered most. Legit felt like watching a video game at some points. Thankfully the humor worked and some of the fanservice too. Nicholas Cage's supes although looked bad was well included and I found the George Clooney cameo well placed and hilarious. That said i thought the animated cameo of Christopher Reeves was a bad thought- 6.5/10
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Jun 15, 2023 17:57:26 GMT
I already don’t want to see this. A), They’re ending this timeline off anyway. You’ve killed any interest I have in keeping up with it. B), Miller’s still scummy, and I refuse to give them the time of day. If there’s any one thing that almost got me to see it though, it is Nic Cage Superman.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Jun 17, 2023 5:14:45 GMT
All your favorite action figures from when you were a kid are still around to do the same things over and over again. Every rumor you read about in Wizard magazine fully realized. Every "what if?" you saw on recycled YouTube videos for 15 years given a budget greater than the GDP of the Marshall Islands to ensure you get to see it on the big screen.
Nobody ever dies, they live on via CGI necromancy. Companies produce stories about how important it is to move on and let go of the past as they repackage them for nostalgic currency. The most important point of reference for one to recognize the state of their current reality is whether Eric Stoltz played Marty McFly in Back to the Future. But hey, did you understand the reference?
We live in hell.
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Post by Archie on Jun 17, 2023 20:06:57 GMT
Absolute degeneracy. These movies are fucking evil.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jun 18, 2023 17:27:19 GMT
Honest question:
Why is being considered bad or evil just to show him?
If anything it feels like they were honoring him ( and George Reeves )
At least they didn't make a mockery of him like STAR WARS did with the Peter Cushing abomination.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Jun 18, 2023 19:19:42 GMT
Honest question: Why is being considered bad or evil just to show him? If anything it feels like they were honoring him ( and George Reeves ) At least they didn't make a mockery of him like STAR WARS did with the Peter Cushing abomination. There are many ways to honor a deceased actor. Alluding to the character, a photo, hell there's archival footage. Animating a CGI puppet to look like a PS3 rendering of 1978 Christopher Reeve for a cheap emotional pull is not honoring him, it's graverobbing. It's the further impulse of a studio cynically using what they know works ("people like Christopher Reeve as Superman") in a pandering attempt to elevate their current output. People die and when they do, they should be allowed to rest, not trotted out as a computer file for a project they could never sign up for.
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Post by stephen on Jun 18, 2023 19:39:49 GMT
Honest question: Why is being considered bad or evil just to show him? If anything it feels like they were honoring him ( and George Reeves ) At least they didn't make a mockery of him like STAR WARS did with the Peter Cushing abomination. There are many ways to honor a deceased actor. Alluding to the character, a photo, hell there's archival footage. Animating a CGI puppet to look like a PS3 rendering of 1978 Christopher Reeve for a cheap emotional pull is not honoring him, it's graverobbing. It's the further impulse of a studio cynically using what they know works ("people like Christopher Reeve as Superman") in a pandering attempt to elevate their current output. People die and when they do, they should be allowed to rest, not trotted out as a computer file for a project they could never sign up for. It should also be noted that George Reeves's tragic end might have a great deal to do with the fame that playing Superman had given him.
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Post by countjohn on Jun 20, 2023 0:02:50 GMT
Honest question: Why is being considered bad or evil just to show him? If anything it feels like they were honoring him ( and George Reeves ) At least they didn't make a mockery of him like STAR WARS did with the Peter Cushing abomination. There are many ways to honor a deceased actor. Alluding to the character, a photo, hell there's archival footage. Animating a CGI puppet to look like a PS3 rendering of 1978 Christopher Reeve for a cheap emotional pull is not honoring him, it's graverobbing. It's the further impulse of a studio cynically using what they know works ("people like Christopher Reeve as Superman") in a pandering attempt to elevate their current output. People die and when they do, they should be allowed to rest, not trotted out as a computer file for a project they could never sign up for. That's a lot of the thing, if you're going to do fanservice at least do it right and not creepy mocap of dead actors. They could have just had an image of Reeve pop up on the screen while he's flying through a multiverse wormhole, do a voice cameo with archival audio with him in the spirit realm like Jor-El, exc. That stuff actually would have meant more because it would have really been him. I remember in the last Star Trek movie Quinto goes into a room full of stuff from the original Star Trek continuity (they were ahead on the multiverse thing I guess) and there's a picture of Shatner and Nimoy together in uniform on the wall. Even Star Trek fans who hated the new movies all loved that scene. Subtler is better with this stuff sometimes.
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Jun 20, 2023 1:24:43 GMT
Honest question: Why is being considered bad or evil just to show him? If anything it feels like they were honoring him ( and George Reeves ) At least they didn't make a mockery of him like STAR WARS did with the Peter Cushing abomination. There are many ways to honor a deceased actor. Alluding to the character, a photo, hell there's archival footage. Animating a CGI puppet to look like a PS3 rendering of 1978 Christopher Reeve for a cheap emotional pull is not honoring him, it's graverobbing. It's the further impulse of a studio cynically using what they know works ("people like Christopher Reeve as Superman") in a pandering attempt to elevate their current output. People die and when they do, they should be allowed to rest, not trotted out as a computer file for a project they could never sign up for. Same issue with Egon in Afterlife. It’s a cheap, calculated ploy for heart and nostalgia, but feels ghoulish in execution. And I know Princess Leia also gets roped into this discussion, but at least Carrie Fisher was ALIVE at the time Rogue One came out.
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Post by countjohn on Jun 20, 2023 1:29:59 GMT
There are many ways to honor a deceased actor. Alluding to the character, a photo, hell there's archival footage. Animating a CGI puppet to look like a PS3 rendering of 1978 Christopher Reeve for a cheap emotional pull is not honoring him, it's graverobbing. It's the further impulse of a studio cynically using what they know works ("people like Christopher Reeve as Superman") in a pandering attempt to elevate their current output. People die and when they do, they should be allowed to rest, not trotted out as a computer file for a project they could never sign up for. Same issue with Egon in Afterlife. It’s a cheap, calculated ploy for heart and nostalgia, but feels ghoulish in execution. And I know Princess Leia also gets roped into this discussion, but at least Carrie Fisher was ALIVE at the time Rogue One came out. Didn't she die the day it opened? Which is what made it so creepy but I guess that's not all their fault.
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Jun 20, 2023 1:43:01 GMT
Same issue with Egon in Afterlife. It’s a cheap, calculated ploy for heart and nostalgia, but feels ghoulish in execution. And I know Princess Leia also gets roped into this discussion, but at least Carrie Fisher was ALIVE at the time Rogue One came out. Didn't she die the day it opened? Which is what made it so creepy but I guess that's not all their fault. She died nearly two weeks after its North American debut. So delayed creep factor, definitely, but at least she saw it to completion.
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Post by Martin Stett on Jun 28, 2023 18:36:00 GMT
If this happened in the movie, I'd actually consider watching it
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Post by Pavan on Jun 28, 2023 18:57:04 GMT
If this happened in the movie, I'd actually consider watching it It did
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Post by Martin Stett on Jun 28, 2023 19:01:30 GMT
If this happened in the movie, I'd actually consider watching it It did
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Jun 28, 2023 19:28:29 GMT
It did You’ve committed now. No going back on your word. I want an essay on this movie.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jun 28, 2023 19:44:05 GMT
Ezra played too much Maniac Mansion as a kid.
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Post by Martin Stett on Jun 28, 2023 20:31:17 GMT
You’ve committed now. No going back on your word. I want an essay on this movie. "Consider!" I left myself an out! (Primarily because I don't want to go through every other DC movie. I've only seen Wonder Woman and Shazam, which are supposedly the good ones? They suck. They suck hard.)
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Jun 28, 2023 20:48:07 GMT
You’ve committed now. No going back on your word. I want an essay on this movie. "Consider!" I left myself an out! (Primarily because I don't want to go through every other DC movie. I've only seen Wonder Woman and Shazam, which are supposedly the good ones? They suck. They suck hard.) Boo! All talk, boo!
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Post by Martin Stett on Jun 28, 2023 21:25:20 GMT
"Consider!" I left myself an out! (Primarily because I don't want to go through every other DC movie. I've only seen Wonder Woman and Shazam, which are supposedly the good ones? They suck. They suck hard.) Boo! All talk, boo! Alright, what would I need to suffer through? Only the essentials for understanding this.
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Post by Nikan on Jun 28, 2023 21:36:34 GMT
If this happened in the movie, I'd actually consider watching it He did not know he was being filmed...
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Post by Joaquim on Jun 28, 2023 22:01:02 GMT
If this happened in the movie, I'd actually consider watching it It did Excuse me?
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jun 29, 2023 1:28:50 GMT
Alright, what would I need to suffer through? Only the essentials for understanding this. Honestly just Man of Steel. Batman ‘89 isn’t needed but a couple fun references.
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Post by Martin Stett on Jun 29, 2023 1:57:27 GMT
Alright, what would I need to suffer through? Only the essentials for understanding this. Honestly just Man of Steel. Batman ‘89 isn’t needed but a couple fun references. Oh good. I thought I'd need everything. Sure, I can do that.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Jun 29, 2023 4:17:41 GMT
Honestly just Man of Steel. Batman ‘89 isn’t needed but a couple fun references. Oh good. I thought I'd need everything. Sure, I can do that. And tbh, you don't even really need Man of Steel. You mainly just have to know Zod came here to terraform the planet to revive Krypton, then Superman stopped him (while both directly and indirectly allowing downtown Metropolis to become a fucking crater). That's about it.
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Oct 3, 2023 22:37:02 GMT
It took an extended flight across the country with a layover for me to buckle under the pressure and watch this.
The “‘member” berries of Keaton and Elfman weren’t worth it. *Too* goofy for its own good, and what should be the emotional heart of the movie (the dead mother) is barely a footnote. At least No Way Home kept its multiversal focus on a restraint. This stops being a Flash movie at some point, and the bottom completely falls out under the pressure of too many plot beats (why is Kara even here?). And why the hell does a $200 million dollar tentpole look THIS awful?
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