Pasquale
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Post by Pasquale on Jun 6, 2023 19:46:47 GMT
Intriguing television.
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Post by Lord_Buscemi on Jun 6, 2023 20:29:23 GMT
Really? I don't think I've heard a single positive review, it's seemingly HBO's worst-received show ever. Considering the behind the scenes drama and Levinson's reputation, that's hardly a surprise.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jun 6, 2023 20:36:55 GMT
the story surrounding this whole mess has been quite something and those reviews out of Cannes were brutal. Levinson is a hack and the reports that Weeknd changed the story because he thought it was too "female-centric" is worrisome (apparently he can't act either?) so the response is hardly surprising.
maybe I'll binge it in a few months. not a high priority but I am curious to see what the fuss is about
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Post by speeders on Jun 6, 2023 23:03:58 GMT
The premiere was a mess... so much to unpack, which I'll do at a later time.
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Post by futuretrunks on Jun 7, 2023 0:30:37 GMT
The reviews are a reaction to the Seimetz drama and Euphoria's success. There's nothing about this pilot that warrants even remotely such negativity. This was like a mid-range episode of Atlanta or something. The writing of Shiv in the Succession finale is more "misogynistic" than anything I saw in this episode.
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Post by Archie on Jun 14, 2023 19:21:17 GMT
I really don't know what to say here. I think this is about as bad as it gets.
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Post by Barbie on Jun 21, 2023 22:06:04 GMT
My honest take:
This show is definitely bad. Sam Levinson wants to be Verhoeven. I see what he’s going for, but he’s just not pulling it off. I think the show’s sex scenes are exploitative, vulgar, CHEAP, and creepy. Having said that, the people freaking out about this online and calling it rape and torture porn are hysterical. People are acting like Sam Levinson is an abuser which is insane and irresponsible
This show could’ve actually been decent had Levinson and Abel not ruined it with their “This focuses too much on the female perspective” bullshit. Scenes when the show is not focused on Jocelyn and Tedros are ok.
As for the acting, Lily Rose Depp is not the best actress, but she is not a terrible actress like Twitter is claiming. She never once gave me amateur vibes which is something I can’t say for the lead actress in Euphoria who is worshipped by the entire internet and hailed as an Oscar caliber actress lmfao. Lily’s best work so far was the music video scene in episode 2 and the trauma reveal at dinner in episode 3. I just don’t like that Lily Rose agreed to degrade herself by doing the softcore porn sex scenes. Sorry but these aren’t empowering
Abel on the other hand is a bad actor. His line deliveries crack me up. He’s got the douchebag aura down pat so I’ll give him that, but I think it’s bc he seems like a pos irl too. I’ve always felt he’s an asshole for years
Rachel Sennott is the best from the supporting cast. Hank Azaria’s French accent masquerading as Israeli is cringe. Hari Nef is kind of a shit actress, and I know she will be the worst in the Barbie ensemble. She pisses me off
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Post by Barbie on Jun 21, 2023 22:14:45 GMT
The reviews are a reaction to the Seimetz drama and Euphoria's success. There's nothing about this pilot that warrants even remotely such negativity. This was like a mid-range episode of Atlanta or something. The writing of Shiv in the Succession finale is more "misogynistic" than anything I saw in this episode. While I definitely agree the blowback is too much and in part a response to the Seimetz mess, this show is still misogynistic bc of the exploitative sex scenes and the way it’s shot. This is why a female director was sorely needed Levinson can’t rightfully talk about how young people today are shaped by porn and it’s rotting people’s brains, and then film the scenes like a softcore porn. The male gaze is so present in all his work. It’s creepy, and it contradicts his claim that he’s making a critique of female exploitation in the entertainment industry |
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Post by LaraQ on Jun 22, 2023 11:42:59 GMT
If this was any longer than 5 episodes I would've bailed because it's exploitative trash.I'm basically just hate watching it to see how this mess ends.
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Post by Allenism on Jun 23, 2023 13:32:42 GMT
This based on the last ~20 minutes of ep3:
-Lily Rose Depp can act, and deserves much better material than this horseshit.
-The Weeknd cannot act, and should go into temporary hiding if he knew what was best for his career.
-Rachel Sennot adds a fresh pop to everything she's in.
-Sam Levinson wants so desperately to be a provocateur but is probaly just a closet pedophile granted extraordinary access (*Kendall Roy voice*) within the industry due to his last name.
-The show's premise could've been developed into something decent were it not for the writer/producer. Having said that, it's still a headscratcher how/why HBO picked this up.
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