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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2023 4:00:38 GMT
Would you agree that this was her greatest performance?
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Post by ingmarhepburn on Feb 25, 2023 10:30:36 GMT
I think her best is Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf, which, for my money, is one of the 10 best film performances by any actor, male or female. But I think she's extraordinary as Maggie (easily her second best). The fact that she was able to give that performance when she was consumed with grief (her husband had just died on a plane crash when filming began) is even more admirable. Had she won for Cat and not for Butterfield 8, she would have perhaps be greatest set of Oscar winning performances by any actor (give or take Vivien Leigh).
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Post by stabcaesar on Feb 25, 2023 10:54:33 GMT
I haven't seen all of her performances, but of the ones I've seen I like her the most in Giant. This is really good too, though.
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Post by cherry68 on Feb 25, 2023 12:50:21 GMT
I liked her in Suddenly, last summer too.
On a side note, I had a very similar dress when I was younger. One of my favourite ever.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2023 1:48:02 GMT
pacinoyes Mattsby LaraQ - Curious as to what you guys think - in terms of Tennessee Williams performances on film, Taylor's Maggie is quite like Brando's Stanley in that I could never imagine another actor doing it better. It's her signature part in my mind.
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Post by Mattsby on Feb 26, 2023 2:29:06 GMT
I haven't seen the movie in many years, it's surely one of her best though I'm not a big fan - I generally prefer Woolf, but for this she manages Maggie better than the other portrayals I've peeped, Jessica Lange and - who at her best is better than Lange and Liz both - Natalie Wood.
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 26, 2023 2:41:25 GMT
@tyler - I'd put it with Virginia Woolf as her best......it's not a coincidence that those are great plays where the character's backstory is laid out for her to inhabit - she doesn't have to create the character from the ground up
That's a big thing for her because she was such a force of nature (or beauty) that you could lose details of performances in the outsized nature of the roles.....and she could too - even when she was good ......she needs the text to ground her
Maggie is a more rounded performance - Woolf is more direct .......Taylor somewhat perfected a style of using her voice at a variety of volume and pitch levels and alternating the pitch to convey childishness, or meanness, or joy, or sexiness, or the proto-Kidman whisper (um).....when Taylor then doesn't speak it's quite jarring because of how stunning she was....it essentially was - in the 50s at least - flirtation ......with co-stars, the camera, the audience - as a whole film performance style......she was very good at times with setting up her co-star and doesn't get credit for that much tbh.....
I'd tell you this is her scene - not the guy with the drink who is what a top ~ 10 American film actor - and she controls the musicality / rhythm of it also ...... where it peaks etc.
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 26, 2023 14:39:51 GMT
Btw - there's no way to see Kathleen Turner's full stage performance as Maggie, right?
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Post by Nikan on Feb 26, 2023 16:34:49 GMT
@tyler - I'd put it with Virginia Woolf as her best......it's not a coincidence that those are great plays where the character's backstory is laid out for her to inhabit - she doesn't have to create the character from the ground up That's a big thing for her because she was such a force of nature (or beauty) that you could lose details of performances in the outsized nature of the roles.....and she could too - even when she was good ...... she needs the text to ground herIsn't that the case with all great performances though? Do you have examples/favorites of the opposite nature? This film (and Sweet bird of Youth) are good; very good in moments. They don't appeal to me that much though atm.
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 26, 2023 17:06:29 GMT
@tyler - I'd put it with Virginia Woolf as her best......it's not a coincidence that those are great plays where the character's backstory is laid out for her to inhabit - she doesn't have to create the character from the ground up That's a big thing for her because she was such a force of nature (or beauty) that you could lose details of performances in the outsized nature of the roles.....and she could too - even when she was good ...... she needs the text to ground herIsn't that the case with all great performances though? Do you have examples/favorites of the opposite nature? Lange in Frances is one ..... Finney in several roles was always a step ahead in character conception to screenwriters (A Man of No Importance for one).......Harry Dean Stanton is far better and more affecting in Lucky by NOT having particularly great text or a clear backstory and is in effect the writer of the piece through his inhabiting of the role .......Lange, Finney and Stanton ground the text rather than being grounded by it etc Taylor in her late 1960s /70s work shows this "rudderless" quality where her acting is called campy or OTT but in several of those movies - she is better than the descriptions of her - it's just she's better at playing scenes not an actual character....... - in her great roles she steps into something defined in both the present and past (backstory).........when she hasn't got that.......she gives noticeably amorphous, straining performances.......
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