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Post by therealcomicman117 on Dec 10, 2021 16:01:25 GMT
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Post by Miles Morales on Dec 10, 2021 16:24:23 GMT
Previews are weak but I still think that this will have great holiday legs.
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Post by havok2 on Dec 10, 2021 19:08:11 GMT
LOL
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Post by sirchuck23 on Dec 10, 2021 19:22:29 GMT
Welp
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Dec 10, 2021 19:49:44 GMT
Still think it can probably recover with the Holidays upcoming, but yep it's not great. House of Gucci's gross is starting to look like even more of a miracle. Not even going to predict what Nightmare Alley does next week (Disney releasing it in 2,000 screens, I don't know why?), but lets just say, all of the best picture potentials grosses aren't gonna look that pretty come March of next year.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Dec 10, 2021 20:03:56 GMT
Still think it can probably recover with the Holidays upcoming, but yep it's not great. House of Gucci's gross is starting to look like even more of a miracle. Not even going to predict what Nightmare Alley does next week (Disney releasing it in 2,000 screens, I don't know why?), but lets just say, all of the best picture potentials grosses aren't gonna look that pretty come March of next year. I think the only two movies that are going to do some serious business is Spider-Man and The Matrix Resurrections. Everything else...I don't know. Maybe some of the films released on Christmas Day get lucky and get some tickets sold from whoever will venture out to the movies that day.
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Post by Miles Morales on Dec 10, 2021 20:05:19 GMT
( Disney releasing it in 2,000 screens, I don't know why?), but lets just say, all of the best picture potentials grosses aren't gonna look that pretty come March of next year. No Way Home is likely going to suck up the majority of theatres and plus releasing a film like Nightmare Alley super wide is a bad idea, so those could be the reasonings. Platform releases are the best option for Oscar hopefuls though, don't know why studios seemingly just abandoned it.
But yeah we are dealing with another rough year in terms of box office numbers for Best Picture nominees, where even crowdpleasing stuff like King Richard both bombed badly at the box office and didn't do well enough on streaming. I definitely do think West Side Story has room for improvement after such a lackluster start.
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Post by Miles Morales on Dec 10, 2021 20:08:01 GMT
Still think it can probably recover with the Holidays upcoming, but yep it's not great. House of Gucci's gross is starting to look like even more of a miracle. Not even going to predict what Nightmare Alley does next week (Disney releasing it in 2,000 screens, I don't know why?), but lets just say, all of the best picture potentials grosses aren't gonna look that pretty come March of next year. I think the only two movies that are going to do some serious business is Spider-Man and The Matrix Resurrections. Everything else...I don't know. Maybe some of the films released on Christmas Day get lucky and get some tickets sold from whoever will venture out to the movies that day. Sing 2 will likely do really well apart from those two.
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Post by quetee on Dec 10, 2021 20:09:02 GMT
You guys are writing off a movie based on its preview numbers? It hasn't even opened yet...officially. Let it go wide first and then bash it.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Dec 10, 2021 20:21:42 GMT
You guys are writing off a movie based on its preview numbers? It hasn't even opened yet...officially. Let it go wide first and then bash it. We're basing it off the preview numbers. Of course the movie could have amazing legs for all we know, but those numbers are exactly the same as Dear Evan Hansen, which is a legit concern.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Dec 11, 2021 16:27:04 GMT
Very very poor for West Side Story. It'll have to have some great legs to make up that 100m + budget.
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Post by havok2 on Dec 11, 2021 16:30:37 GMT
Very very poor for West Side Story. It'll have to have some great legs to make up that 100m + budget. OH NONONONO HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA Your 'Best Picture winner'
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Post by havok2 on Dec 11, 2021 16:32:19 GMT
Before anyone compares it to Showman, that one had a busy Christmas opening with The Last Jedi and Jumanji in competition. This one had it open
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 11, 2021 16:38:47 GMT
HoG might be in the top 10 for God knows how long ......and globally it still hasn't even opened in Australia or Italy and with its global is going to combined rip past 100 million in the next 10 days I imagine .....as disappointing as WSS is.......the box office for HoG is fascinating to watch ........an original film for adults ......go figure
"Sony’s “Ghostbusters: Afterlife” is third with $6.4 million in its fourth weekend and a $111 million total, while MGM’s “House of Gucci” is fourth with $4 millon in its third weekend and a $41 million total. Marvel Studios’ “Eternals” completes the top 5 with $3 million in its sixth weekend and a $161 million total."
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2021 16:44:21 GMT
I mean… if I wanted to watch West Side Story, I would just watch the one with Natalie Wood at my house. Lol.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Dec 11, 2021 17:55:46 GMT
Welp…
Best Picture nominee F9: The Fast Saga!
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Post by quetee on Dec 11, 2021 17:56:39 GMT
Welp… Best Picture nominee F9! LMAO!!!!
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 11, 2021 18:29:12 GMT
This is pathetic actually - DLU & Being the Ricardos - really wonder how Nightmare Alley will do as I had some hope for that - both as my kind of movie personally and as a possible decent box office performer.......not only do adult films struggle.........they can't get screens anyway so what's it matter ....... deadline.com/2021/12/west-side-story-opening-weekend-1234888675/ Streamers with theatrical titles that are hiding their grosses in Comscore include Netflix with the Adam McKay directed big star ensemble Don’t Look Up starring Leonardo DiCaprio, Jennifer Lawrence, Meryl Streep, Jonah Hill, etc. at 500 locations including Alamo, Cinemark, and Harkins among the notables with a $260K Friday, $750K opening weekend. Pic hits Netflix on Dec. 24.
Amazon’s Aaron Sorkin directed Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz feature Being the Ricardos which is looking like an estimated $150K on Friday and $450K for the weekend at 400 runs. AMC has close to half of that location count with Cinemark and Harkins also playing the film. The movie debuts on Amazon Prime on Dec. 21.
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Post by pupdurcs on Dec 11, 2021 18:39:28 GMT
Grosses for Token limited cinema releases for titles that are meant to be released on streaming like the week after mean almost next to nothing. Everyone is expecting to see it on the streaming service in question, and those streamers will do the bare minimum to promote those cinema runs (which just exist to qualify them for the Oscars).
So, yeah, the cinema numbers for Don't Look Up and Being The Ricardos are irrelevant. It's how they perform on the streaming platforms that you judge them by. It Don't Look Up hits no.1 on Netflix and stays in the top 5 for a few weeks, it can be judged a hit.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Dec 11, 2021 18:45:37 GMT
Grosses for Token limited cinema releases for titles that are meant to be released on streaming like the week after mean almost next to nothing. Everyone is expecting to see it on the streaming service in question, and those streamers will do the bare minimum to promote those cinema runs (which just exist to qualify them for the Oscars). So, yeah, the cinema numbers for Don't Look Up and Being The Ricardos are irrelevant. It's how they perform on the streaming platforms that you judge them by. It Don't Look Up hits no.1 on Netflix and stays in the top 5 for a few weeks, it can be judged a hit. Streaming is a completely different animal altogether. While adult / older appealing movies are mostly dying in theaters, they can mostly thrive on streaming services. I'm sure Don't Look Up would have opened maybe okay in the cinema given the names involved, before petering out, but on Netflix, it'll probably be watched by twenty million people, or whatever number they'll claim it did, and that's probably fine.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Dec 11, 2021 19:07:20 GMT
Grosses for Token limited cinema releases for titles that are meant to be released on streaming like the week after mean almost next to nothing. Everyone is expecting to see it on the streaming service in question, and those streamers will do the bare minimum to promote those cinema runs (which just exist to qualify them for the Oscars). So, yeah, the cinema numbers for Don't Look Up and Being The Ricardos are irrelevant. It's how they perform on the streaming platforms that you judge them by. It Don't Look Up hits no.1 on Netflix and stays in the top 5 for a few weeks, it can be judged a hit. Streaming is a completely different animal altogether. While adult / older appealing movies are mostly dying in theaters, they can mostly thrive on streaming services. I'm sure Don't Look Up would have opened maybe okay in the cinema given the names involved, before petering out, but on Netflix, it'll probably be watched by twenty million people, or whatever number they'll claim it did, and that's probably fine. Is there a possible way AMPAS can nominate Squid Game for Best Picture?
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Post by quetee on Dec 11, 2021 19:10:46 GMT
Grosses for Token limited cinema releases for titles that are meant to be released on streaming like the week after mean almost next to nothing. Everyone is expecting to see it on the streaming service in question, and those streamers will do the bare minimum to promote those cinema runs (which just exist to qualify them for the Oscars). So, yeah, the cinema numbers for Don't Look Up and Being The Ricardos are irrelevant. It's how they perform on the streaming platforms that you judge them by. It Don't Look Up hits no.1 on Netflix and stays in the top 5 for a few weeks, it can be judged a hit. True, but to me, Netflix is cheating on the viewer numbers. Before you had to watch a certain % of the movie to count as a view, now you just have to watch two minutes of it. As far as I can tell, Tick Tick Boom was in top ten for two days. Passing, one day. The Power of the Dog for eight days. Don't Look Up will no doubt to better than that. The key is for it to trend like Squid Game.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Dec 11, 2021 19:16:02 GMT
Streaming is a completely different animal altogether. While adult / older appealing movies are mostly dying in theaters, they can mostly thrive on streaming services. I'm sure Don't Look Up would have opened maybe okay in the cinema given the names involved, before petering out, but on Netflix, it'll probably be watched by twenty million people, or whatever number they'll claim it did, and that's probably fine. Is there a possible way AMPAS can nominate Squid Game for Best Picture? Top men are working on it.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Dec 11, 2021 19:21:54 GMT
Grosses for Token limited cinema releases for titles that are meant to be released on streaming like the week after mean almost next to nothing. Everyone is expecting to see it on the streaming service in question, and those streamers will do the bare minimum to promote those cinema runs (which just exist to qualify them for the Oscars). So, yeah, the cinema numbers for Don't Look Up and Being The Ricardos are irrelevant. It's how they perform on the streaming platforms that you judge them by. It Don't Look Up hits no.1 on Netflix and stays in the top 5 for a few weeks, it can be judged a hit. True, but to me, Netflix is cheating on the viewer numbers. Before you had to watch a certain % of the movie to count as a view, now you just have to watch two minutes of it. As far as I can tell, Tick Tick Boom was in top ten for two days. Passing, one day. The Power of the Dog for eight days. Don't Look Up will no doubt to better than that. The key is for it to trend like Squid Game. American Gangster was trending in the top 10 for a week or so, should nominate it for BP this year as a make-up..lol Seriously though, I don’t know what AMPAS can really do to increase ratings. You could nominate populist films but then you risk becoming the MTV Awards. Maybe thats why Dawn Hudson is stepping down as CEO of the Academy. Abandoning ship.
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Post by quetee on Dec 11, 2021 19:29:01 GMT
True, but to me, Netflix is cheating on the viewer numbers. Before you had to watch a certain % of the movie to count as a view, now you just have to watch two minutes of it. As far as I can tell, Tick Tick Boom was in top ten for two days. Passing, one day. The Power of the Dog for eight days. Don't Look Up will no doubt to better than that. The key is for it to trend like Squid Game. American Gangster was trending in the top 10 for a week or so, should nominate it for BP this year as a make-up..lol Seriously though, I don’t know what AMPAS can really do to increase ratings. You could nominate populist films but then you risk becoming the MTV Awards. Maybe thats why Dawn Hudson is stepping down as CEO of the Academy. Abandoning ship. I've noticed that when an old Denzel movie hits Netflix, it trends for few days. Haha. Well, they tried to add a popular movie category but that fail. If the Academy doesn't have enough sense to nominate popular movies with good reviews then that's their problem. They should stop being snobs about the whole thing. There was a time when they did that you know. Something like Tootsie would never get nominated today.
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