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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 28, 2020 20:02:54 GMT
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Post by Mattsby on Jun 28, 2020 20:19:30 GMT
Alright, they’re taking this wayne too far. This is sure to spur debate...
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 28, 2020 20:23:38 GMT
Alright, they’re taking this wayne too far. This is sure to spur debate... I say they let them Duke it out and see who wins .........
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Post by Javi on Jun 28, 2020 22:40:23 GMT
This stuff gets more embarrassing every day. Not just the renaming mania but the media's handling of wannabe iconoclasts - people toppling statues etc in the name of progress. Someone should explain how this is any different to, say, the early Christians' toppling of Greek and Roman monuments... they too were convinced they were purging a decadent or 'shameful' society of its sins by destroying its symbols. (This is always done by moralists gone insane). Their only achievement was destroying (mostly superior) culture they could no longer understand or accept... But 2020 is particularly embarrassing in that this righteous (patently manic, religious) fervor with its mass hysteria and stupidity gets passed off as rational and progressive thought by (mostly atheist ) "intellectuals", and presented as outright heroic by part of the press (or at best in a neutral or uncritical tone). You know, the same elite that (rightfully) condemns early Christianity for cultural vandalism. I'm not saying some of these (often fugly) monuments didn't deserve to go but not for the reasons given.
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Post by urbanpatrician on Jun 28, 2020 22:48:48 GMT
Yikes. SJWs at 10 o'clock. I can smell SJW brain cells predictably congregating over the internet from a mile away.
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Post by JangoB on Jun 28, 2020 23:17:01 GMT
I say the same-titled song from one of the Lady Gaga albums should be removed as well, with an apology from Ms. Gaga herself. Plus I'd like his name to be removed from his films. Which should now all come with disclaimers in front of them or, even better, with 4-minute explanations of why they're problematic.
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Post by JangoB on Jun 28, 2020 23:32:34 GMT
Maybe the next thing to do would be to take his movies and make him out-of-focus like Robin Williams in Deconstructing Harry Who knows, maybe that's the future!
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Post by Martin Stett on Jun 28, 2020 23:44:40 GMT
There's an episode of the anime Kino's Journey that I feel is fitting here. In this story, Kino (a traveler) and her talking motorcycle Hermes visit a "country" (in KJ, these are usually the size of cities) and can't find anybody. Eventually, she discovers why: there is a cemetery with thousands upon thousands of graves. She then meets a man who tells her the glorious history of his nation:
Once, the country was a monarchy. The king was an evil, vicious man, and under his rule the people suffered until they could take it no longer, and launched a rebellion, killing the king. They established a democracy, in which the will of the people would always be followed, and no tyrant could rule them again. The question immediately arose of what to do with the king's family: should they be allowed to live as members of this new society, or should they be executed? A vote was held, and the majority voted for execution.
And then the question arose: What of those people who voted against the execution? Are they secretly royalists? Do they want democracy to succeed? A vote was held, and the majority voted for execution. And then the question arose: What of those people who voted against the execution? Are they secretly royalists? Do they want democracy to succeed? A vote was held, and the majority voted for execution. And then the question arose: What of those people who voted against the execution? Are they secretly royalists? Do they want democracy to succeed? A vote was held, and the majority voted for execution. And then the question arose: What of those people who voted against the execution? Are they secretly royalists? Do they want democracy to succeed? A vote was held, and the majority voted for execution...
At last, there were only three people left alive: a man and his wife, and a single man. The single man wished to leave the country. A vote was held: Two against one for execution. Shortly afterwards, the wife died, leaving her husband alone. Having told of his nation's history, he then wants Kino to stay with him, start anew. She declines, so he pulls a gun on her, and tells her that she has to stay.
So Kino proposes a vote: Anyone who pulls a firearm on another is eligible for the death penalty. With Hermes, she has two votes. She stares the man down, and he lets her go. As she exits the nation, a gunshot is heard in the distance, and Kino gives a farewell to the "king" she spoke with.
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Post by stephen on Jun 28, 2020 23:50:50 GMT
I move we rename it "John Denver Airport."
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Post by quetee on Jun 28, 2020 23:59:24 GMT
I actually grew up in OC. LMAO!!!
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Post by Film Socialism on Jun 29, 2020 1:41:57 GMT
i should clarify as the board's resident leftist that, while having white people voice black actors is kinda weird or the veneration of white supremacists in monuments should probably get kinda cut down a little, this is kind of low on the priority list
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Post by Joaquim on Jun 29, 2020 3:03:16 GMT
No one flies into that fucking airport
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Post by Film Socialism on Jun 29, 2020 5:09:17 GMT
No one flies into that fucking airport because its named john wayne airport
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Post by chris3 on Jun 29, 2020 6:57:20 GMT
No one flies into that fucking airport That's what makes it so amazing. Fuck LAX.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jun 30, 2020 0:55:56 GMT
why the hell did John Wayne get his own airport in the first place.
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Post by quetee on Jun 30, 2020 1:12:20 GMT
why the hell did John Wayne get his own airport in the first place. Been trying to figure that one out since I was a kid. I actually go to this airport all the time because it is close by parents house. It isn't international though so you gotta go to LAX. It is just easier to deal with. Very small. More expensive flights compared to LAX though. Remember the airport scene in Jerry Maguire? That's JW.
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Post by countjohn on Jun 30, 2020 2:34:07 GMT
As with so many other things, it's named after Wayne because it's LA and he's the biggest Hollywood star ever. It's not named after him as a commemoration of the stuff he said in that Playboy interview. This is ridiculous. There's an episode of the anime Kino's Journey that I feel is fitting here. In this story, Kino (a traveler) and her talking motorcycle Hermes visit a "country" (in KJ, these are usually the size of cities) and can't find anybody. Eventually, she discovers why: there is a cemetery with thousands upon thousands of graves. She then meets a man who tells her the glorious history of his nation: Once, the country was a monarchy. The king was an evil, vicious man, and under his rule the people suffered until they could take it no longer, and launched a rebellion, killing the king. They established a democracy, in which the will of the people would always be followed, and no tyrant could rule them again. The question immediately arose of what to do with the king's family: should they be allowed to live as members of this new society, or should they be executed? A vote was held, and the majority voted for execution. And then the question arose: What of those people who voted against the execution? Are they secretly royalists? Do they want democracy to succeed? A vote was held, and the majority voted for execution. And then the question arose: What of those people who voted against the execution? Are they secretly royalists? Do they want democracy to succeed? A vote was held, and the majority voted for execution. And then the question arose: What of those people who voted against the execution? Are they secretly royalists? Do they want democracy to succeed? A vote was held, and the majority voted for execution. And then the question arose: What of those people who voted against the execution? Are they secretly royalists? Do they want democracy to succeed? A vote was held, and the majority voted for execution... At last, there were only three people left alive: a man and his wife, and a single man. The single man wished to leave the country. A vote was held: Two against one for execution. Shortly afterwards, the wife died, leaving her husband alone. Having told of his nation's history, he then wants Kino to stay with him, start anew. She declines, so he pulls a gun on her, and tells her that she has to stay. So Kino proposes a vote: Anyone who pulls a firearm on another is eligible for the death penalty. With Hermes, she has two votes. She stares the man down, and he lets her go. As she exits the nation, a gunshot is heard in the distance, and Kino gives a farewell to the "king" she spoke with. Sounds like a documentary.
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Post by quetee on Jun 30, 2020 2:54:07 GMT
As with so many other things, it's named after Wayne because it's LA and he's the biggest Hollywood star ever. It's not named after him as a commemoration of the stuff he said in that Playboy interview. This is ridiculous. There's an episode of the anime Kino's Journey that I feel is fitting here. In this story, Kino (a traveler) and her talking motorcycle Hermes visit a "country" (in KJ, these are usually the size of cities) and can't find anybody. Eventually, she discovers why: there is a cemetery with thousands upon thousands of graves. She then meets a man who tells her the glorious history of his nation: Once, the country was a monarchy. The king was an evil, vicious man, and under his rule the people suffered until they could take it no longer, and launched a rebellion, killing the king. They established a democracy, in which the will of the people would always be followed, and no tyrant could rule them again. The question immediately arose of what to do with the king's family: should they be allowed to live as members of this new society, or should they be executed? A vote was held, and the majority voted for execution. And then the question arose: What of those people who voted against the execution? Are they secretly royalists? Do they want democracy to succeed? A vote was held, and the majority voted for execution. And then the question arose: What of those people who voted against the execution? Are they secretly royalists? Do they want democracy to succeed? A vote was held, and the majority voted for execution. And then the question arose: What of those people who voted against the execution? Are they secretly royalists? Do they want democracy to succeed? A vote was held, and the majority voted for execution. And then the question arose: What of those people who voted against the execution? Are they secretly royalists? Do they want democracy to succeed? A vote was held, and the majority voted for execution... At last, there were only three people left alive: a man and his wife, and a single man. The single man wished to leave the country. A vote was held: Two against one for execution. Shortly afterwards, the wife died, leaving her husband alone. Having told of his nation's history, he then wants Kino to stay with him, start anew. She declines, so he pulls a gun on her, and tells her that she has to stay. So Kino proposes a vote: Anyone who pulls a firearm on another is eligible for the death penalty. With Hermes, she has two votes. She stares the man down, and he lets her go. As she exits the nation, a gunshot is heard in the distance, and Kino gives a farewell to the "king" she spoke with. Sounds like a documentary. OC is not in LA County. The vibe in OC is way different than LA.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jun 30, 2020 3:30:17 GMT
why the hell did John Wayne get his own airport in the first place. He's the most beloved Hollywood movie star ever by the American public. In spaces like this, you never really get a sense of just how beloved and important he is to them. The media or film buffs will try to tell you it's Marilyn Monroe or Audrey Hepburn or Elizabeth Taylor or Katherine Hepburn or Humphrey Bogart or Paul Newman or James Stewart, or whatever iconic movie star fits closer to their ideology or aspirations. But it's always been Wayne, a movie star at best grudgingly admired by cinephiles and nowhere as celebrated as a pop culture icon by certain media. Only Clint Eastwood for now comes close in terms of intrinsic value to American identity.
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Post by Mattsby on Jul 11, 2020 0:35:37 GMT
deadline.com/2020/07/john-wayne-racist-usc-exhibit-removal-black-lives-matter-1202982937/The USC School of Cinematic Arts will remove an exhibit devoted to actor John Wayne, a USC student and football player in the 1920s, after months of insistence from students denouncing the Hollywood star’s on-the-record racism and the portrayal of Indigenous Americans in many of his films.
Last fall, a student unveiled a banner on campus reading “By keeping Wayne’s legacy alive, SCA is endorsing white supremacy.”So we're cancelling John Wayne?? at a school for Cinematic Arts!! These kids should know the difference between some very outdated remarks and what their film school is really endorsing (maybe little things like oh idk movie history and alum success and dreams??). But, as Wayne says in Rio Bravo, "I'd hate to have to live on that difference."
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jul 11, 2020 3:36:16 GMT
Oh man, wait until they find out some of the other stuff people in Hollywood have done...
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