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Post by Brother Fease on Feb 4, 2020 3:13:34 GMT
What do you think about expanding the best director line-up? The Best Picture can be up to 10, why not best director? It would give female and black directors a better shot at getting nominated. Honestly I wouldn't have an issue with having 7 best director nominees. Peter Hammond of Gold Derby said there's talk about expanding the best director category after Gerwig missing the top 5.
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Post by stephen on Feb 4, 2020 3:14:45 GMT
I have seven nominees in my personal film lineups for every category bar Picture (where I do a full ten). So I'd be fine with it, but I also know I watch a shitload more esoteric films than the Academy.
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Post by The-Havok on Feb 4, 2020 3:18:04 GMT
No but they definitely should be more restrictive into allowing shit directors like The Russos into their branch
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Post by DeepArcher on Feb 4, 2020 3:25:16 GMT
No, and they should minimize the Best Picture line-up back down to five.
Fixing problems starts with changing their voting base, and then working their way up from there. Doing arbitrary shit like expanding the directing line-up to "give a chance" to women and people of color would just be disgustingly condescending while also allowing them to congratulate themselves on "allowing diversity" or whatever, when all it will really do will just open the gates to allow more middle-of-the-road crap to get in, all while still not acknowledging their structural and systemic problems that are actually what need fixing.
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Post by Zeb31 on Feb 4, 2020 3:39:13 GMT
No, and they should minimize the Best Picture line-up back down to five. Fixing problems starts with changing their voting base, and then working their way up from there. Doing arbitrary shit like expanding the directing line-up to "give a chance" to women and people of color would just be disgustingly condescending while also allowing them to congratulate themselves on "allowing diversity" or whatever, when all it will really do will just open the gates to allow more middle-of-the-road crap to get in, all while still not acknowledging their structural and systemic problems that are actually what need fixing. /thread
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Post by The-Havok on Feb 4, 2020 3:42:15 GMT
No, and they should minimize the Best Picture line-up back down to five. Fixing problems starts with changing their voting base, and then working their way up from there. Doing arbitrary shit like expanding the directing line-up to "give a chance" to women and people of color would just be disgustingly condescending while also allowing them to congratulate themselves on "allowing diversity" or whatever, when all it will really do will just open the gates to allow more middle-of-the-road crap to get in, all while still not acknowledging their structural and systemic problems that are actually what need fixing. Although the last point is right, I don't think narrowing the choices back to 5 will do any good since we've had inspired choices. If something, I think the Academy should enforce measures so voters watch more movies
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Post by DeepArcher on Feb 4, 2020 3:51:22 GMT
No, and they should minimize the Best Picture line-up back down to five. Fixing problems starts with changing their voting base, and then working their way up from there. Doing arbitrary shit like expanding the directing line-up to "give a chance" to women and people of color would just be disgustingly condescending while also allowing them to congratulate themselves on "allowing diversity" or whatever, when all it will really do will just open the gates to allow more middle-of-the-road crap to get in, all while still not acknowledging their structural and systemic problems that are actually what need fixing. Although the last point is right, I don't think narrowing the choices back to 5 will do any good since we've had inspired choices. If something, I think the Academy should enforce measures so voters watch more movies That's fair, it has more to do with personal preference where I feel that once line-ups become expanded they start to lose their meaning. The expanded BP line-up has really just created a more cluttered field year after year where so much boring shit that doesn't have a shot to win anyway makes it in. I've recently heard suggestions (not that they'll ever come true obviously, just an interesting hypothetical) to "spice up" the Oscars telecast where they'd do an elimination thing with the Best Picture line-up where they announce the film that finished last in voting first and then one-by-one ascend upwards before it's down to the last couple and ultimately the big announcement, and when each film is announced giving the creators of the film a chance to go on stage and speak about it and really celebrate it. I would love to see the Oscars do something like that and I honestly feel like if they did it would really justify the expanded line-up in my eyes. But since they don't do something like that, I feel like keeping it at a more exclusive five keeps things more interesting and more competitive for the way they do things.
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Post by filmnoir on Feb 4, 2020 4:03:58 GMT
Although the last point is right, I don't think narrowing the choices back to 5 will do any good since we've had inspired choices. If something, I think the Academy should enforce measures so voters watch more movies I've recently heard suggestions (not that they'll ever come true obviously, just an interesting hypothetical) to "spice up" the Oscars telecast where they'd do an elimination thing with the Best Picture line-up where they announce the film that finished last in voting first and then one-by-one ascend upwards before it's down to the last couple and ultimately the big announcement, and when each film is announced giving the creators of the film a chance to go on stage and speak about it and really celebrate it. I would love to see the Oscars do something like that and I honestly feel like if they did it would really justify the expanded line-up in my eyes. But since they don't do something like that, I feel like keeping it at a more exclusive five keeps things more interesting and more competitive for the way they do things. They would never do that. It takes up way too much time. And no one wants to be the film that is voted in last place.
I have no problem keeping the Best Picture nominees around 8-9, since PGA has 10. Same with keeping Director at 5, since DGA has 5.
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Post by DeepArcher on Feb 4, 2020 4:07:56 GMT
I've recently heard suggestions (not that they'll ever come true obviously, just an interesting hypothetical) to "spice up" the Oscars telecast where they'd do an elimination thing with the Best Picture line-up where they announce the film that finished last in voting first and then one-by-one ascend upwards before it's down to the last couple and ultimately the big announcement, and when each film is announced giving the creators of the film a chance to go on stage and speak about it and really celebrate it. I would love to see the Oscars do something like that and I honestly feel like if they did it would really justify the expanded line-up in my eyes. But since they don't do something like that, I feel like keeping it at a more exclusive five keeps things more interesting and more competitive for the way they do things. They would never do that. Yeah, I literally said that lol.
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Post by jimmalone on Feb 4, 2020 9:20:04 GMT
No. And I think they should also go back to just 5 Best Picture nominees.
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Post by TerryMontana on Feb 4, 2020 10:49:27 GMT
Agree. 5 bd nominees and 5 bp nominees. No real reason for anything different.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Feb 4, 2020 14:48:01 GMT
No, but they should just set BP at 10.
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 4, 2020 14:59:23 GMT
Let's just make it like 2nd grade where everybody gets a prize - that way we can be inclusive and everyone can have a warm hug and feel good about themselves. Everyone gets a prize! They already have ruined the Oscars even among categories that were always at 5 - think about it - Paul Newman and Laurence Olivier died with 1 Oscar, Tom Hanks, Robert De Niro, Denzel Washington, Jack Nicholson, Daniel Day-Lewis will all likely die with 3.......does that seem "just" ...........of course not.....but nothing about the Oscars is......so at least stop overthinking it: Set everything to 5 or back to 5.........move on.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2020 16:44:45 GMT
There are more than enough films in a year for what is supposedly the most prestigious and “important” movie awards body in the world to give us a Top 10 for Best Picture, and I’m baffled that people are insisting that number be lowered, especially with many of the same people upset over certain work being excluded this year, last year, etc. I think that should be set to 10 and stay there.
As for the other categories, they pretty much all need to be revamped to some extent.
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Post by TheAlwaysClassy on Feb 4, 2020 17:04:16 GMT
I've always preferred 5 nominees in all categories.
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Post by bruinjoe96 on Feb 5, 2020 7:28:41 GMT
No but they definitely should be more restrictive into allowing shit directors like The Russos into their branch
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Post by futuretrunks on Feb 5, 2020 7:46:54 GMT
Best Picture got watered down. It doesn't mean as much as when it was 5. Why harm another category like that?
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