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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2020 16:50:50 GMT
A question for everyone to consider: Do you think Pryce was helped to his nomination this year by his performance in The Wife last year? Glenn Close sang his praises in all of her acceptance speeches last year and, despite her own terrible loss, was right back on the campaign trail for him this year.
In other words, were it not for The Wife, do you think he'd have made the Top 5 in such a deep field for leading actors this year?
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Post by TerryMontana on Jan 17, 2020 17:05:34 GMT
I believe these two are not related at all.
Imo Pryce was "helped" by the on-screen chemistry he had with Hopkins and the fact that he had never won a nod before. On the other hand some BA contenders were easier to get snubbed for various reasons (we talked about De Niro, maybe Egerton was hurt because of Malek's win last year for yet another singer biopic, maybe they thought it was too much for Bale to win 2 consecutive nods and 5 in the last 10 years).
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Post by rhodoraonline on Jan 17, 2020 17:25:38 GMT
My answer would be yes to that. Voters are not machines the rest afresh for every award season. we are discussing and debating these factors all the time. So are they most probably in their private lives or maybe even their inner social circles...
Both factors contributed equally well imo.
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Post by thomasjerome on Jan 17, 2020 17:36:44 GMT
I mean he had Netflix campaign, biopic role and his performance is acclaimed but I'd say yes, that also contributed to his nomination. I think having films in contention in such short time spans help your narrative especially if you're an overdue for recognition. "The Wife" and his appearence on "Game of Thrones" were kind of bringing him back to wider attention again. I kind of hated "Two Popes" and didn't particularly care for his performance but I'm fine with the fact that he finally got recognition. He should have won for "Brazil" Imo.
I believe Sam Elliott also had a similar run last year. Him doing all those Sundance films back to back since 2015 and also delivering great guest work in TV shows all contributed to his nomination and overdue narrative.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 17, 2020 18:05:05 GMT
Probably the biggest factor, imho, was Andrew McCarten. Right now, he's almost the Best Actor Whisperer of actors when it comes to the Academy awards, which is pretty remarkable for a screenwriter. You see it often for directors, but rarely so obviously for one who only writes. It's not like he's the greatest screenwriter in the world either, but he's worked out the forumula/algorithm that hits directly at the sweet spot of voters.
Till he finally has someone who misses, I'd keep an eye out for the next Best Actor contender who is coming in a McCarten script, whoever the director is.
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Post by stephen on Jan 17, 2020 18:32:20 GMT
Probably the biggest factor, imho, was Andrew McCarten. Right now, he's almost the Best Actor Whisperer of actors when it comes to the Academy awards, which is pretty remarkable for a screenwriter. You see it often for directors, but rarely so obviously for one who only writes. It's not like he's the greatest screenwriter in the world either, but he's worked out the forumula/algorithm that hits directly at the sweet spot of voters. Till he finally has someone who misses, I'd keep an eye out for the next Best Actor contender who is coming in a McCarten script, whoever the director is. This. I called Pryce/Hopkins as strong contenders the second Anthony McCarten announced he had a pope biopic (bio-pope?) out. McCarten is a hack, but his hackness has been Oscar catnip for Best Actor. Close probably did her part to help, but McCarten, Netflix and the extremely compressed season helped Pryce much more.
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Post by fiosnasiob on Jan 17, 2020 19:04:48 GMT
I didn't really follow the race this year but few months ago I predicted him simply because he was a Brit (and there is almost always a Brit in Best Actors, that has been the case for the last 10 years) and that The Two Popes could be strong enough. I don't know how many BAFTA members are also Academy Awards members but I feel like they have enough power to "push" someone to be in serious contention for a nomination (if the movie is strong enough) or at least are a significant help. Bale wasn't nominated at the BAFTA this year and Rocketman got 0 love at the oscars while The Two Popes got Screenplay + Hopkins, Pryce is the logic Brit this year. Maybe he also got some goodwill from last last, not sure.
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