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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jan 15, 2020 11:53:08 GMT
One of the greatest actors of his generation giving a mind-blowing performance that spanned decades was thought not worthy to be included in that fucking lineup! 😑
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Post by mhynson27 on Jan 15, 2020 11:56:31 GMT
He probably just got overshadowed by Pacino and Pesci.
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Post by JangoB on Jan 15, 2020 12:00:52 GMT
That is weird. Maybe mhynson is right about him being overshadowed by his costars, maybe the voters just weren't too floored by the quietness of the performance, maybe it's those damn fake eyes, I dunno. He should've easily gotten in. But he got no precursor support either which is even stranger to me.
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Post by TerryMontana on Jan 15, 2020 12:06:12 GMT
It was simply a very stacked category this year. Plus he was overshadowed by the other two and the Irishman has already lost steam for the Oscars.
It's a shame because he carries the whole movie on his shoulders for three and a half hours. A movie that got 10 Oscar nods...
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 15, 2020 12:12:54 GMT
Several things happening at once and I've given this a lot of thought:
* An insanely tough year
* His co-stars which hurt him exactly in ways he couldn't have seen - Pacino is not a gangster in The Irishman so it looks different from his previous film nods and looks exactly like his acclaimed recent biographic/Emmy-winning roles. Pesci had never played a part in that way before at all.
* His great acting comes so late in the film - people might have felt like too little, too late.
* "Of course he can play a gangster" - taken for granted......
* De Niro became the focal point of the CGI backlash for people who dislike the film - his CGI is the weakest.
And one we don't talk about:
* The iconic level that those 70s legends are at actually encourages snubs now in a recency bias sort of way - there's a "They are overrated - they just cash checks now! What's so great about them anyway?" factor in play big time - it cost Pacino an Emmy nod in 2018 (Paterno), cost Nicholson who had precursors for a nod for The Departed and De Niro here too.
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Post by Brother Fease on Jan 15, 2020 12:14:29 GMT
One of the greatest actors of his generation giving a mind-blowing performance that spanned decades was thought not worthy to be included in that fucking lineup! 😑 How do I explain it? The Best Actor category was sacked. DeNiro was good in the film, but it was nothing we haven't seen before. |
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Post by LaraQ on Jan 15, 2020 12:39:43 GMT
One of the greatest actors of his generation giving a mind-blowing performance that spanned decades was thought not worthy to be included in that fucking lineup! 😑 How do I explain it? The Best Actor category was sacked. DeNiro was good in the film, but it was nothing we haven't seen before. True.I thought he was great but I also felt like I'd seen that performance from him half a dozen times. |
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jan 15, 2020 12:48:11 GMT
Great subtle performances often get looked over and like many have mentioned already, Best Actor category is stacked. There are at least 10 legit nom worth performances.
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Post by jimmalone on Jan 15, 2020 13:05:22 GMT
Well, it's easy for me, because it will probably end the same way for me: The voters didn't like his performance enough.
DeNiro is my #3 actor of all time. But already now I only have him as #6 for The Irishman and I've not even seen 20 films from 2019 so far.
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Post by Viced on Jan 15, 2020 15:09:38 GMT
How do I explain it? The Best Actor category was sacked. DeNiro was good in the film, but it was nothing we haven't seen before. True.I thought he was great but I also felt like I'd seen that performance from him half a dozen times. Can you name these half dozen other performances? Every "gangster" role he's played shouldn't be lumped together... before The Irishman, and especially including it. He's never been this internalized playing a yes-man underling like this in a crime film, and he's never gone to the emotional depths he went to in the last 30 minutes in another mob film. It's like saying Pacino in Donnie Brasco wasn't doing anything he's never done before.  |
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Post by ingmarhepburn on Jan 15, 2020 16:54:00 GMT
That is weird. Maybe mhynson is right about him being overshadowed by his costars, maybe the voters just weren't too floored by the quietness of the performance, maybe it's those damn fake eyes, I dunno. He should've easily gotten in. But he got no precursor support either which is even stranger to me. Yup, all of this. I can't speak for the Academy, but I've already seen the film twice, and while I was able to appreciate what Pesci and Pacino were doing, I wasn't at all impressed or moved by De Niro. I've enjoyed some of his previous work, but this one did nothing for me. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. |
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Post by Good God on Jan 15, 2020 17:34:51 GMT
I agree with many of the reasons mentioned here, and would just repeat that the CGI did him no favors. Always felt like that could end up hurting the reception to his performance.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Jan 15, 2020 18:25:58 GMT
It was a solid performance from him (especially the last 30 minutes), but he got overshadowed by Pesci and Pacino. I actually prefer his work in Silver Linings Playbook more. It seemed that he brought more energy into that performance.
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Post by stephen on Jan 15, 2020 20:07:44 GMT
Most people pretty much hit the nail on the head: the CGI was distracting, the performance was really low-key against louder competition, Pacino/Pesci got most of the ink, Netflix had Driver as their chief competitor in this category.
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Post by morton on Jan 15, 2020 20:11:50 GMT
Several things happening at once and I've given this a lot of thought: * An insanely tough year * His co-stars which hurt him exactly in ways he couldn't have seen - Pacino is not a gangster in The Irishman so it looks different from his previous film nods and looks exactly like his acclaimed recent biographic/Emmy-winning roles. Pesci had never played a part in that way before at all. * His great acting comes so late in the film - people might have felt like too little, too late. * "Of course he can play a gangster" - taken for granted...... * De Niro became the focal point of the CGI backlash for people who dislike the film - his CGI is the weakest. And one we don't talk about: * The iconic level that those 70s legends are at actually encourages snubs now in a recency bias sort of way - there's a "They are overrated - they just cash checks now! What's so great about them anyway?" factor in play big time - it cost Pacino an Emmy nod in 2018 (Paterno), cost Nicholson who had precursors for a nod for The Departed and De Niro here too. I wonder for your last point if he hadn't been nominated for Silver Linings Playbook if he would have made it everywhere this year for The Irishman. |
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Post by stephen on Jan 15, 2020 20:13:27 GMT
Several things happening at once and I've given this a lot of thought: * An insanely tough year * His co-stars which hurt him exactly in ways he couldn't have seen - Pacino is not a gangster in The Irishman so it looks different from his previous film nods and looks exactly like his acclaimed recent biographic/Emmy-winning roles. Pesci had never played a part in that way before at all. * His great acting comes so late in the film - people might have felt like too little, too late. * "Of course he can play a gangster" - taken for granted...... * De Niro became the focal point of the CGI backlash for people who dislike the film - his CGI is the weakest. And one we don't talk about: * The iconic level that those 70s legends are at actually encourages snubs now in a recency bias sort of way - there's a "They are overrated - they just cash checks now! What's so great about them anyway?" factor in play big time - it cost Pacino an Emmy nod in 2018 (Paterno), cost Nicholson who had precursors for a nod for The Departed and De Niro here too. I wonder for your last point if he hadn't been nominated for Silver Linings Playbook if he would have made it everywhere this year for The Irishman. I highly doubt his nomination in 2012 had any bearing on the race this time around. |
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