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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 13, 2020 20:26:27 GMT
I haven't seen this discussed yet so I'm sorry if it has, but does anyone else think that the shortened season ultimately backfired? They did it out of hope that it would bring more surprises, but ultimately these nominations just reflected the same trends in taste/preference that we've seen at every other awards show so far, and overall they were probably the least surprising batch of nominations in a long time. It ended up playing to all the strengths of a single film - 1917 which I've already talked about my feelings for - I liked it but it's deeply flawed but the short timeline played for a film to be a late breaker and a one time watch - and a non-reflective one-time watch too - a cinematic roller coaster ride in a way. All the other films had their flaws assessed - oppressive length, aimlessness, manipulation, not serious enough etc (Irishman, OUATIH, MS, Joker in that order) - 1917 has flaws, but it's strengths drown them out in an abridged season. It may not win but without the shortened season it wouldn't have hit with this much force - a lot broke perfectly for that film this season.
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Post by DeepArcher on Jan 13, 2020 20:34:13 GMT
Lopez is the worst snub for me. Not just baffling because she hit every precursor and had rave reception that most of the actual nominees didn't, but it's also a genuinely terrific performance that's the one that deserves to be sweeping the category this season. The fact that such a legendary performance that was also so unexpected from that particular performer is going down without a nomination is just ... criminal. Heh.
Song Kang-ho hurts, too. I mean, that one was always kind of wishful thinking, but considering the generally very strong support for Parasite and the SAG Ensemble nomination, its acting shutout is just a huge bummer and even kind of confounding.
Dafoe and Sandler gave maybe the two best individual performances of the year, but unlike some others I never had any expectation that either of them would be nominated anyway, so when they didn't I was prepared and really didn't feel disappointed. Once again A24 has two of the year's best performances and couldn't amount an actual campaign for either of them ... *sigh*.
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Post by The-Havok on Jan 13, 2020 20:47:44 GMT
Lopez is the worst snub for me. Not just baffling because she hit every precursor and had rave reception that most of the actual nominees didn't, but it's also a genuinely terrific performance that's the one that deserves to be sweeping the category this season. The fact that such a legendary performance that was also so unexpected from that particular performer is going down without a nomination is just ... criminal. Heh. Song Kang-ho hurts, too. I mean, that one was always kind of wishful thinking, but considering the generally very strong support for Parasite and the SAG Ensemble nomination, its acting shutout is just a huge bummer and even kind of confounding. Dafoe and Sandler gave maybe the two best individual performances of the year, but unlike some others I never had any expectation that either of them would be nominated anyway, so when they didn't I was prepared and really didn't feel disappointed. Once again A24 has two of the year's best performances and couldn't amount an actual campaign for either of them ... *sigh*. Nah I'm glad trashy Lopez got snubbed for her greedy performance
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Post by sirjeremy on Jan 13, 2020 20:48:49 GMT
I wasn't expecting two nominations for Johansson. It'll be interesting what happens with that as most people in the past who've received two nominations in the same year have won for one of them.
Egerton's snub is sad but he was always on shaky ground with his film's likely lack of major nominations and him being a relative newcomer.
Love the vet nominations in supporting actor. Those nominated have 27 nominations in total!
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Post by quetee on Jan 13, 2020 20:55:37 GMT
I haven't seen this discussed yet so I'm sorry if it has, but does anyone else think that the shortened season ultimately backfired? They did it out of hope that it would bring more surprises, but ultimately these nominations just reflected the same trends in taste/preference that we've seen at every other awards show so far, and overall they were probably the least surprising batch of nominations in a long time. It ended up playing to all the strengths of a single film - 1917 which I've already talked about my feelings for - I liked it but it's deeply flawed but the short timeline played for a film to be a late breaker and a one time watch - and a non-reflective one-time watch too - a cinematic roller coaster ride in a way. All the other films had their flaws assessed - oppressive length, aimlessness, manipulation, not serious enough etc (Irishman, OUATIH, MS, Joker in that order) - 1917 has flaws, but it's strengths drown them out in an abridged season. It may not win but without the shortened season it wouldn't have hit with this much force - a lot broke perfectly for that film this season. Pretty much. The massive box office is the cherry on top. It looks like a winner. Gonna be interesting to see what Bafta gives BP.
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Post by quetee on Jan 13, 2020 20:58:17 GMT
Lopez is the worst snub for me. Not just baffling because she hit every precursor and had rave reception that most of the actual nominees didn't, but it's also a genuinely terrific performance that's the one that deserves to be sweeping the category this season. The fact that such a legendary performance that was also so unexpected from that particular performer is going down without a nomination is just ... criminal. Heh. Song Kang-ho hurts, too. I mean, that one was always kind of wishful thinking, but considering the generally very strong support for Parasite and the SAG Ensemble nomination, its acting shutout is just a huge bummer and even kind of confounding. Dafoe and Sandler gave maybe the two best individual performances of the year, but unlike some others I never had any expectation that either of them would be nominated anyway, so when they didn't I was prepared and really didn't feel disappointed. Once again A24 has two of the year's best performances and couldn't amount an actual campaign for either of them ... *sigh*. The worst acting snub has got to be Song. I thought with that SAG ensemble that there wss no wsy it would miss. How did Roma do better with less support?
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Post by stephen on Jan 13, 2020 20:58:49 GMT
So folks - Peter Farrelly, Todd Phillips, which director of greasy comedies is up next for Oscar glory? David Dobkin had a trying out round with The Judge, he should latch on to a prestige project ASAP while the iron is hot! Dennis Dugan Hey now, he was snubbed for National Security.
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Post by stephen on Jan 13, 2020 20:59:53 GMT
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Post by stephen on Jan 13, 2020 21:01:11 GMT
Lopez is the worst snub for me. Not just baffling because she hit every precursor and had rave reception that most of the actual nominees didn't, but it's also a genuinely terrific performance that's the one that deserves to be sweeping the category this season. The fact that such a legendary performance that was also so unexpected from that particular performer is going down without a nomination is just ... criminal. Heh. Song Kang-ho hurts, too. I mean, that one was always kind of wishful thinking, but considering the generally very strong support for Parasite and the SAG Ensemble nomination, its acting shutout is just a huge bummer and even kind of confounding. Dafoe and Sandler gave maybe the two best individual performances of the year, but unlike some others I never had any expectation that either of them would be nominated anyway, so when they didn't I was prepared and really didn't feel disappointed. Once again A24 has two of the year's best performances and couldn't amount an actual campaign for either of them ... *sigh*. The worst acting snub has got to be Song. I thought with that SAG ensemble that there wss no wsy it would miss. How did Roma do better with less support? Netflix money ain't nothin' to fuck with. Song had a very strong category to contend with, while Aparicio and de Tavira really had to make sure only one perceived contender underwhelmed.
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Jan 13, 2020 21:02:54 GMT
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Post by stephen on Jan 13, 2020 21:03:37 GMT
This is why we have the AMARAs. I just hope that love can spill over for Buckley and Walters.
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Post by Mattsby on Jan 13, 2020 21:04:44 GMT
Oh yea this was a head-scratcher miss. That whole Mary Steenburgen story is crazy and thought would've been talked about and it's a nice song too!
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Post by TerryMontana on Jan 13, 2020 21:11:08 GMT
Bobby D is the worst snub for me. I didn't expect him to be in, tbh, but sucks either way...
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Post by Lubezki on Jan 13, 2020 21:23:01 GMT
Thoughts on Mama being Kathy Bates's best role and performance? I love her in it. She just wanted to protect her lil’ boy from that heinous DEVIL! The best Mama there ever was.
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Post by quetee on Jan 13, 2020 21:27:20 GMT
Bobby D is the worst snub for me. I didn't expect him to be in, tbh, but sucks either way... Two years from now, all will be well. He'll get a nod and end up in another bp.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 13, 2020 21:39:10 GMT
Bobby D is the worst snub for me. I didn't expect him to be in, tbh, but sucks either way... Two years from now, all will be well. He'll get a nod and end up in another bp. Agree ............and he could quite easily win when nodded again too - I literally see De Niro when all is said and done having 3 Oscars like Jack. This will cause several peoples heads to explode on this board since they either wrote him off for the last 30 years or STILL write him off even now. The amazing thing about today's snub (if we call it that) is he's never been nodded for a Scorsese crime flick - Mean Streets, Casino, Goodfellas, Irishman.....
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Post by TerryMontana on Jan 13, 2020 21:44:58 GMT
Bobby D is the worst snub for me. I didn't expect him to be in, tbh, but sucks either way... Two years from now, all will be well. He'll get a nod and end up in another bp. He'll be in another BP nominated movie for sure in two years time!!!
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Post by rhodoraonline on Jan 13, 2020 22:19:50 GMT
Truly hope that Zellweger will be this year's Glenn Close.I like her but no fucking way, she deserves that Oscar for that clownesque performance 😑 Saoirse Ronan? Little Women is surging at the right time. Unlike Zellweger, Ronan has never won and she is in a Best Picture nominee. I'm seeing that scenario more and more. Scarlett could have the backlash effect in that her role doesn't even require much work in JoJo and is not too emotionally enticing in MS. Renee is just not Meryl to coast on a transformation to another win. Really rooting for Saoirse now. Would be much like JLaw's win in her year except we know Saoirse will keep making more awesome choices even after the oscar!
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Post by rhodoraonline on Jan 13, 2020 22:23:47 GMT
I haven't seen this discussed yet so I'm sorry if it has, but does anyone else think that the shortened season ultimately backfired? They did it out of hope that it would bring more surprises, but ultimately these nominations just reflected the same trends in taste/preference that we've seen at every other awards show so far, and overall they were probably the least surprising batch of nominations in a long time. I don't see a longer season adding anything but greater chances for late backlashes, which is not a healthy trend to support ... Just stop the madness early. Marketing teams and studios should make their schedules accordingly!
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Post by rhodoraonline on Jan 13, 2020 22:29:01 GMT
Worst snub: (feel free to choose yours) I'm going with Bale. Other than being a truly terrific perf and my win for the year - it's an extremely likable perf and completely accessible too, more than Joker, Two Popes, Pain and Glory.... and hellll, it GOT a Best Pic nom which makes his exclusion sting worse. That BAFTA miss killed him maybe - but he got a SAG nom! - I really thought he'd be in. I love Bale, I run a board for him and I loved his performance and I agree with your feelings. And I definitely found him superior to Pryce this year. And yet, he's been much nominated and Banderas and Pryce, two great actors, were never nominated. SO I can see that going into the voting process and I respect that. The only thing I'd have loved more would be a Sandler/Murphy nom. Comedians are GREAT ACTORS, Academy!!!
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Post by rhodoraonline on Jan 13, 2020 22:33:03 GMT
Worst snub: (feel free to choose yours) I'm going with Bale. Other than being a truly terrific perf and my win for the year - it's an extremely likable perf and completely accessible too, more than Joker, Two Popes, Pain and Glory.... and hellll, it GOT a Best Pic nom which makes his exclusion sting worse. That BAFTA miss killed him maybe - but he got a SAG nom! - I really thought he'd be in. Yeah, it's his most deserving oscar nom since the fighter. Sometimes i don't understand Bafta! the first time i saw Bale in FvF, I was really sure he would be locked for Bafta nom cuz he portrays a british, a perfect british performance and it turns out doesn't happen. He got SAG nom, all of his Hollywood peers like him but in Britain Bale's inclusion instead of Pryce could've been the best best actor line-up since 2007 Don't forget, BAFTA seem to have a tendency to ignore American Brits playing other Brits cough***Blunt***cough
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Post by Lubezki on Jan 13, 2020 22:43:54 GMT
Worst snub: (feel free to choose yours) I'm going with Bale. Other than being a truly terrific perf and my win for the year - it's an extremely likable perf and completely accessible too, more than Joker, Two Popes, Pain and Glory.... and hellll, it GOT a Best Pic nom which makes his exclusion sting worse. That BAFTA miss killed him maybe - but he got a SAG nom! - I really thought he'd be in. Comedians are GREAT ACTORS, Academy!!! They are some of the best around, especially Murphy. I hope we see him again soon in a role like Dolemite, or just anything that can showcase his exceptional performing skills that we just don’t see enough of on a regular basis.
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Post by Drish on Jan 13, 2020 22:47:45 GMT
ScarJo did nothing in Jojo to warrant a nomination. Thomasin was soo much better. Oscars really love to waste their supporting category noms, esp S Actress. I feel bad for Taron, he really wanted (and deserved) it, it seems. But no complaints there. Both the actor categories have some really well deserved names. Meh on Actress, ScarJo is very good in MS and I've yet to see Ronan and I'm sure she's gonna rock it!
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Post by Lubezki on Jan 13, 2020 23:25:13 GMT
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Post by cheesecake on Jan 14, 2020 1:16:15 GMT
Pretty gross over all, to be expected, but I'm so pleased with the Parasite love.
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