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Post by The-Havok on Jan 1, 2020 0:44:49 GMT
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Post by stephen on Jan 1, 2020 0:46:46 GMT
I can agree with that. I also think if it beats Marriage Story, then it's probably taking Picture, especially as I think Bong's taking Director.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 1, 2020 0:55:10 GMT
Sure. But I still think Marriage Story takes it, in which case OUATIH's chances are [sadly] very much alive.
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Post by The-Havok on Jan 1, 2020 1:06:03 GMT
Sure. But I still think Marriage Story takes it, in which case OUATIH's chances are [sadly] very much alive. Nope. The movie has been underperforming with guilds, actors don't give a shit about it. It also means Hollywood needs to nab Director to take the top prize
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 1, 2020 1:22:29 GMT
Sure. But I still think Marriage Story takes it, in which case OUATIH's chances are [sadly] very much alive. Nope. The movie has been underperforming with guilds, actors don't give a shit about it. It also means Hollywood needs to nab Director to take the top prize The writing is the most visible thing about it though. I think it's gonna pull another Manchester by the Sea. Several nominations including BP and BD, winning screenplay and actor. It's not underperforming with the guilds at all. The only significant nomination it's missed was for SAG ensemble which doesn't matter for screenplay. Green Book didn't get an ensemble nod last year either.
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Post by JangoB on Jan 1, 2020 2:13:15 GMT
Ehh, I can actually see it winning International Film and Original Screenplay and OUATIH taking Picture and Director. I'm actually predicting this scenario for Oscars at the moment. I have the impression that some people might see OUATIH as a bit less of a writing and more of a directing achievement for QT.
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Post by TerryMontana on Jan 1, 2020 12:31:42 GMT
I kind of agree. Although I still believe Marriage Story will win.
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Post by The-Havok on Jan 1, 2020 20:18:14 GMT
Ehh, I can actually see it winning International Film and Original Screenplay and OUATIH taking Picture and Director. I'm actually predicting this scenario for Oscars at the moment. I have the impression that some people might see OUATIH as a bit less of a writing and more of a directing achievement for QT. Here's the thing, all the movies that were seen as more of a 'Directing' achievement this decade solely won for Best Director. We've had 5 BP/BD splits this year and literally all but two BP winners did not win any Oscar for Screenplay. Thus reinforcing the importance of a Screenplay win to win Best Picture. All in case, OUATIH can pull off a Birdman but Parasite is a visible threat given its popularity and how universally admired it is over something like Hollywood, which may not strike as much passion from voters.
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Post by filmnoir on Jan 1, 2020 22:05:54 GMT
Sure. But I still think Marriage Story takes it, in which case OUATIH's chances are [sadly] very much alive. Nope. The movie has been underperforming with guilds, actors don't give a shit about it. It also means Hollywood needs to nab Director to take the top prize Marriage Story has not been under performing with the Guilds. It missed SAG ensemble, but so did The Shape of Water and Green Book. And it did get 3 individual nods for its actors. It also got a surprise nod with the Film Editor's Guild.
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Post by The-Havok on Jan 1, 2020 22:25:54 GMT
Nope. The movie has been underperforming with guilds, actors don't give a shit about it. It also means Hollywood needs to nab Director to take the top prize Marriage Story has not been under performing with the Guilds. It missed SAG ensemble, but so did The Shape of Water and Green Book. And it did get 3 individual nods for its actors. It also got a surprise nod with the Film Editor's Guild. Marriage Story is not winning Best Picture
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Post by The-Havok on Jan 1, 2020 22:33:59 GMT
Marriage Story is not winning Best Picture But The Irishman, case closed If it wins Adapted Screenplay yes but I think the anti Netflix sentiment is still strong. Spielberg managed to pull it off with a Green Book win last year to beat Roma. I wouldn't be surprised if he campaigns for other films this year
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Post by filmnoir on Jan 1, 2020 22:35:52 GMT
Marriage Story has not been under performing with the Guilds. It missed SAG ensemble, but so did The Shape of Water and Green Book. And it did get 3 individual nods for its actors. It also got a surprise nod with the Film Editor's Guild. Marriage Story is not winning Best Picture Why? Because it didn't get the SAG ensemble nod? Well, neither did The Shape of Water and Greenbook.
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Post by The-Havok on Jan 1, 2020 23:01:26 GMT
Marriage Story is not winning Best Picture Why? Because it didn't get the SAG ensemble nod? Well, neither did The Shape of Water and Greenbook. Got 3 SAG noms yet none for Ensemble? Also, what will it win other than Best Picture? Parasite is ahead of it just get used to it bruh
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Post by filmnoir on Jan 2, 2020 0:02:06 GMT
Why? Because it didn't get the SAG ensemble nod? Well, neither did The Shape of Water and Greenbook. Got 3 SAG noms yet none for Ensemble? Also, what will it win other than Best Picture? Parasite is ahead of it just get used to it bruh Supporting Actress. Baumbach is favored to win Original Screenplay. Scott Feinberg has Baumbach predicted for a Director nod.
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Post by The-Havok on Jan 2, 2020 0:31:44 GMT
Got 3 SAG noms yet none for Ensemble? Also, what will it win other than Best Picture? Parasite is ahead of it just get used to it bruh Supporting Actress. Baumbach is favored to win Original Screenplay. Scott Feinberg has Baumbach predicted for a Director nod. It's not winning best picture
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Post by filmnoir on Jan 2, 2020 1:19:43 GMT
Supporting Actress. Baumbach is favored to win Original Screenplay. Scott Feinberg has Baumbach predicted for a Director nod. It's not winning best picture Parasite will likely suffer the same fate as Roma. I can't see AMPAS giving it both Foreign Language Film AND Picture.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jan 2, 2020 3:03:12 GMT
Marriage Story is not winning Best Picture Why? Because it didn't get the SAG ensemble nod? Well, neither did The Shape of Water and Greenbook. Is it even remotely in the conversation for BP? It’s definitively behind OUTIH, The Irishman, and Parasite at a minimum. Not sure if it’s even at 4th or if it’s also behind Jojo Rabbit or 1917.
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Post by stephen on Jan 2, 2020 3:15:18 GMT
Why? Because it didn't get the SAG ensemble nod? Well, neither did The Shape of Water and Greenbook. Is it even remotely in the conversation for BP? It’s definitively behind OUTIH, The Irishman, and Parasite at a minimum. Not sure if it’s even at 4th or if it’s also behind Jojo Rabbit or 1917. Marriage Story's in a weird spot right now. It's reasonable to assume it's fourth behind those three movies, but it could easily make a run at the #1 spot if it starts winning major industry prizes. Though Phoenix is favored to win the industry prizes, Driver is still hot on his heels. Also, Johansson feels like she's in a strong position to overtake Zellweger; I feel like Judy is losing steam and I think that if Johansson can wangle double nods, if history is any indication, she's favored to win at least one of those prizes, and Supporting Actress looks all but sewn up at this stage for Dern. All of a sudden, Marriage Story becomes a threat for two or possibly even three wins in acting. Original Screenplay seems like a hot contest between Bong and Baumbach, with Tarantino as an ever-present threat (but with two wins already, they might opt for a different path this year), and it's reasonable to think that Baumbach would get attention for writing over direction. Plus there's seemingly a spot in Best Director more or less wide open after Bong, Scorsese, Tarantino and Mendes; if Baumbach scores that over the likes of Phillips or Gerwig, then all of a sudden, Marriage Story becomes a massive threat to take it all, because it feels like the sort of compromise candidate on a preferential ballot that will win out, as all of the other contenders have various cons in their column. I've cooled on Marriage Story as the frontrunner because Parasite is surging hard at the perfect time, but BAFTA still needs to tell the tale. If Song Kang-ho can score a Supporting Actor nod there and at the Oscars, I'd bet on it as the #1 candidate because it would show strength in just about every arena it needs to. Roma got damn close last year, but I think what killed it is that it just wasn't a crowdpleaser, which Parasite most definitely is (and it helps not to have the Netflix stigma). But Marriage Story feels like a likelier winner than either the Scorsese or the Tarantino because it just feels more like what the masses would gravitate towards, going off of history.
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Post by ingmarhepburn on Jan 2, 2020 11:10:20 GMT
I'd love to see that happening, but I think that, in the end, Parasite will only win Best Foreign Language Film, earning South Korea its first Oscar after many weird and unfair snubs in the past. A make up win, but a sole win.
I agree with Tommen that Marriage Story has a better shot at winning Screenplay atm due to its showy writing and dialogues. I mean, there's the "What I love about..." part, Laura Dern's Virgin Mary monologue, the first meeting between her and Nicole… It just screams Best Original Screenplay. Plus, Baumbach is a previous nominee for Screenplay and still Oscarless, while Tarantino has two Oscars, all of them for writing and screenplay.
I'm still predicting The Irishman for Best Picture, with OUATIH leaving empty-handed or winning only Supporting Actor.
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