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Post by sterlingarcher86 on Dec 15, 2019 23:47:43 GMT
At the time, Hanks missing was a shock. In the 10 years or so that I've followed the Oscars, that was definitely the snub that most surprised me. yeah, that much I relate to. I was surprised too at the time, but looking back I know that that initial shock was coming from a place of "oh shit Hanks isn't here" and not "oh shit, X, Y, or Z are here instead." I don't know, I think Hanks missing for that performance under any circumstance would have felt like a snub, but looking back and seeing how every other nominee was either safe at that point (McConaughey) and/or in popular BP contenders with minimums of 5 nominees each, his exclusion makes a lot of sense to me. I don't know that being 6th place in a hugely competitive year feels much like a snub in hindsight. It felt like a snub at the time, but not so much looking back. Not to me. I'm positive he would have been nominated in 2015 or 2016. I was just thinking to reactions to snubs. I often have the opposite train of thought as you had to Hanks. I remember when they announced the director nods in 2012 I was thinking about how crazy it was that Heineke and Zeitlen got in then about 20 seconds later I was like “Oh shit! Affleck missed!” and about 15 seconds later I was like “Oh shit! Bigelow!” If we were doing all nominations snubs. Not just acting I think Affleck would take the cake for snub in my lifetime.
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Post by evilbliss on Dec 15, 2019 23:53:23 GMT
I realize you can always argue this sort of thing but he got all 4 precursor nods (CC, BAFTA, GG, SAG) and his film which he dominates got a BP nod and multiple nods and was a hit too. Are there any others comparable to that or can you legitimately call it the biggest acting snub ever? Marion Cotillard suffered three major snubs with Nine (2009), Rust and Bone (2012) and The Immigrant (2013).
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Post by Allenism on Dec 16, 2019 0:16:37 GMT
I know 1999 was an INSANELY stacked year for pretty much every major category, but that Chris Cooper got almost no notices for American Beauty is pretty baffling when you consider the role, the movie, the actor, and the performance itself.
Clifton Collins Jr. getting zero traction for Capote is also quite WTF-inducing.
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Post by speeders on Dec 16, 2019 0:34:43 GMT
I realize you can always argue this sort of thing but he got all 4 precursor nods (CC, BAFTA, GG, SAG) and his film which he dominates got a BP nod and multiple nods and was a hit too. Are there any others comparable to that or can you legitimately call it the biggest acting snub ever? Marion Cotillard suffered three major snubs with Nine (2009), Rust and Bone (2012) and The Immigrant (2013). The Immigrant didn't qualify until the year it was released, 2014, the same year she got in for Two Days, One Night.
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Post by sevennovember on Dec 16, 2019 1:23:39 GMT
I'm not surprised by Adams' snub for Arrival. I think it's surprising that she got all those preceding awards.
There's nothing that screams Best Actress about that very bland performance. Most of Adams' nominations were because the Academy liked her film, not her actual performance, anyway. Her performance in American Hustle is horrendous, she couldn't even get the accent right.
Adams' best performances were earlier in her career: Junebug, Drop Dead Gorgeous, Enchanted. She reminds me of Nicole Kidman these days - very bland and over-hyped.
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Post by amiableamy on Dec 16, 2019 3:41:51 GMT
I realize you can always argue this sort of thing but he got all 4 precursor nods (CC, BAFTA, GG, SAG) and his film which he dominates got a BP nod and multiple nods and was a hit too. Are there any others comparable to that or can you legitimately call it the biggest acting snub ever? Marion Cotillard suffered three major snubs with Nine (2009), Rust and Bone (2012) and The Immigrant (2013). Yeah, Rust and Bone is just as bad as Hanks for Captain Phillips. She had noms at CC, BAFTA, GG and SAG.
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Dec 16, 2019 12:48:50 GMT
I say Mia Farrow for Rosemary's Baby!
But let me just say I'm pissed about the Hanks in Captain Phillips snub. That scene at the hospital -now THAT is acting.
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Post by TerryMontana on Dec 16, 2019 15:13:28 GMT
They can't snub him this year!!!!
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Post by Allenism on Dec 16, 2019 16:36:14 GMT
Marion Cotillard suffered three major snubs with Nine (2009), Rust and Bone (2012) and The Immigrant (2013). Yeah, Rust and Bone is just as bad as Hanks for Captain Phillips. She had noms at CC, BAFTA, GG and SAG. Can't be arsed to fact-check, but don't Emma Thompson and Tilda Swinton also bear this dubious distinction for Saving Mr. Banks and We Need to Talk About Kevin, respectively?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 16:44:36 GMT
Yeah, Rust and Bone is just as bad as Hanks for Captain Phillips. She had noms at CC, BAFTA, GG and SAG. Can't be arsed to fact-check, but don't Emma Thompson and Tilda Swinton also bear this dubious distinction for Saving Mr. Banks and We Need to Talk About Kevin, respectively? Timmy also for Beautiful Boy.
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Post by dadsburgers on Dec 23, 2019 19:40:41 GMT
Not mentioned yet: Idris Elba in Beasts of No Nation
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Post by stephen on Dec 23, 2019 19:55:26 GMT
Not mentioned yet: Idris Elba in Beasts of No Nation Speaking for myself, I had huge doubts he'd get in. Netflix was still an untested property when it came to original films and campaigning, and that film is extraordinarily bleak, to the point that I thought most voters wouldn't even make it through the movie. Elba's character is also pretty one-dimensional and thoroughly reprehensible -- even though the Academy loves their baddies in Supporting Actor, I can't really think of a performance that fits its mold that has won before, or has even been nominated, especially in a movie that really had no attention outside of him. His SAG win was, I think, purely reactionary, as voting ended around the time of his "snub" and he'd built up so much goodwill in the industry that I think people rallied around him even if I don't think everyone who voted for him managed to get through his movie. I do think he got much further than I expected he would, but yeah, I definitely didn't think he was getting in. Felt very much like the sort of thing people would say that he should've gotten in for in retrospect.
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Post by dadsburgers on Dec 24, 2019 1:50:11 GMT
Not mentioned yet: Idris Elba in Beasts of No Nation Speaking for myself, I had huge doubts he'd get in. Netflix was still an untested property when it came to original films and campaigning, and that film is extraordinarily bleak, to the point that I thought most voters wouldn't even make it through the movie. Elba's character is also pretty one-dimensional and thoroughly reprehensible -- even though the Academy loves their baddies in Supporting Actor, I can't really think of a performance that fits its mold that has won before, or has even been nominated, especially in a movie that really had no attention outside of him. His SAG win was, I think, purely reactionary, as voting ended around the time of his "snub" and he'd built up so much goodwill in the industry that I think people rallied around him even if I don't think everyone who voted for him managed to get through his movie. I do think he got much further than I expected he would, but yeah, I definitely didn't think he was getting in. Felt very much like the sort of thing people would say that he should've gotten in for in retrospect. True-- Forgot the Oscar nominations came before the GG wins, always bizarre when a non-Oscar nom wins the Globe. Like ATJ in Nocturnal Animals, except there was nothing surprising about the 'snub,' just the win.
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Post by jimmalone on Dec 24, 2019 12:06:25 GMT
yeah, that much I relate to. I was surprised too at the time, but looking back I know that that initial shock was coming from a place of "oh shit Hanks isn't here" and not "oh shit, X, Y, or Z are here instead." I don't know, I think Hanks missing for that performance under any circumstance would have felt like a snub, but looking back and seeing how every other nominee was either safe at that point (McConaughey) and/or in popular BP contenders with minimums of 5 nominees each, his exclusion makes a lot of sense to me. I don't know that being 6th place in a hugely competitive year feels much like a snub in hindsight. It felt like a snub at the time, but not so much looking back. Not to me. I'm positive he would have been nominated in 2015 or 2016. I was just thinking to reactions to snubs. I often have the opposite train of thought as you had to Hanks. I remember when they announced the director nods in 2012 I was thinking about how crazy it was that Heineke and Zeitlen got in then about 20 seconds later I was like “Oh shit! Affleck missed!” and about 15 seconds later I was like “Oh shit! Bigelow!” If we were doing all nominations snubs. Not just acting I think Affleck would take the cake for snub in my lifetime. Indeed. Affleck was definitely the most shocking snub I experienced. I remember thinking he was so safe (like probably most others thought), that at first I didn't even notice he wasn't nominated. I was just surprised when Zeithlins name came up and I was like: Wait, whose place did he take? And then saw that Affleck was missing
Anyways for the original thread topic I'd say that it was one of the more surprising misses, but biggest acting snub ever I don't know. As far as I can recall the race, which is hard to do, cause it certainly changed over the course of time and it's tough to remember how the state was ahead of the nominations, McConaughey and Ejiofor were pretty much locked up. Then it was likely DiCaprio third, but he was far from safe and Hanks, Redford, Dern, Bale were fighting for the last two spots with Hanks being likely in fourth place, but of course that were just our/my vague presumptions.
In hindsight it's also difficult to tell how big a snub really was, cause if you have seen and didn't like the performance that much you will always tend to think it wasn't that shocking for you, mainly cause you think he doesn't deserve it. Despite this having nothing to do with it being a snub. But you would just think he doesn't belong there anyways. And of course years later in discussions you won't have the time or are to lazy to check the precursors, so you trust your feelings more.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Dec 24, 2019 15:56:37 GMT
Agree with a bunch here, but I'd like to throw Plummer in The Insider in the mix. Won a few critics awards, is a LONG time Hollywood/Broadway vet with no Oscar noms, the film itself was a big hit with GG and Oscars, and yet he is left out in the cold.
Again 99 was a pretty stacked year... but you'd think they'd make room for him.
But no, here's MY COCAINE!
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Post by Billy_Costigan on Dec 27, 2019 5:24:01 GMT
Personal feelings on the performance aside, it has to be considered one of the bigger snubs in recent memory. Captain Phillips hit everywhere. Even Greengrass had Globe, BAFTA and DGA nods(and got snubbed too).
At the time, it felt like there were 4 locks with everyone else fighting for the 5th spot. Once Bale's name was announced, I thought that was it. It was a year when two late entries hit at the right time so Bale and DiCaprio got in. Both were in strong BP nominees too so it was just a very tough year.
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