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Post by pacinoyes on Aug 21, 2019 21:37:31 GMT
I don't mean something like actor ________ doesn't have any LA Film Critic Awards or something relatively minor like that - I mean something quite as odd sounding as Denzel and Morgan Freeman have with BAFTA - 8 and 5 Oscar nominations respectively and 0 nods combined for them with BAFTA?
There is nothing like that right among the big awards Oscar, BAFTA, SAG, Golden Globes? Something with such a disparity it seems wrong or a mistake - maybe something like Blunt with 3 SAG nominations and no Oscar nods etc. but even that isn't comparable.
Is this the biggest wtf in "major" awards history across the big 4 awards?
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Post by stephen on Aug 21, 2019 23:26:05 GMT
It's pretty glaring, especially since BAFTA tried to cement themselves as Oscar prognosticators in the last decade. I've spoken of overt biases BAFTA has to certain subsets of American culture (particularly Southern performances or rural/poor areas), but Washington is unique in that he has been completely shut out of a pretty major awards body throughout his career. It's weird he didn't at least get in for Cry Freedom (especially as his co-star John Thaw did so, and the film got in for Best Film), at the very least.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 23:34:38 GMT
Pre-dating SAG, Marilyn Monroe received two nominations each from BAFTA and the Golden Globes (winning one), but no Oscar nominations...
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Aug 22, 2019 3:12:19 GMT
I mean De Niro never won a Bafta which is weird considering his career. Marcia Gay Harden has an Oscar and another nomination but has bever been nominated for a Golden Globe, Bafta or an individual SAG award.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Aug 22, 2019 3:30:14 GMT
While not nearly as acclaimed as Washington, William Holden never received a Golden Globe nomination despite 3 Oscar Nominations. Even weirder is that he also had some high profile comedies under his belt which theoretically should have made it even easier to get nodded at the Globes. He's also an Emmy winner and didn't get a nod for that role either (though the Globes and Emmys don't exactly match very often with TV).
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Post by sirjeremy on Aug 22, 2019 15:56:22 GMT
Charlotte Rampling has also never been nominated for a BAFTA.
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Post by pacinoyes on Aug 22, 2019 16:04:51 GMT
Denholm Elliott "seems" to be the closest I can find related to BAFTA/Oscars acclaimed shutout in reverse - he had 8 BAFTA nods (Washington 8 Oscar nod) - he won 3 BAFTA in a row! - and only one Oscar nod (which came late in his career - A Room With A View at age 64). So somewhat close but not quite.......
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Post by pacinoyes on Aug 22, 2019 16:06:57 GMT
Charlotte Rampling has also never been nominated for a BAFTA. Good one - and got her first Oscar nod at 69 I think. Fascinating career she has ..... |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 17:02:26 GMT
Charlotte Rampling has also never been nominated for a BAFTA. Good one - and got her first Oscar nod at 69 I think. Fascinating career she has ..... Her first Emmy nomination at 67, her first Golden Globe nomination at 71... She also won Best Actress prizes from the Berlin and Venice Film Festivals within a two year period (2015-17) and as an older actress.  |
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Post by thomasjerome on Aug 22, 2019 17:26:46 GMT
Not as odd as Denzel cause at least they were nominated for at least once; but it's interesting to note that two-time Academy Award winners Tom Hanks, Sally Field, Sean Penn, Hilary Swank and Jessica Lange have never won a BAFTA.
I also always found it strange that Jeremy Irons has never been nominated since his only nomination in 1982 for "French Lieutenant's Wife".
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Aug 22, 2019 18:41:57 GMT
Somewhat close, but she just cancels herself out of it with one BAFTA nomination (Tootsie) compared to her 2 Oscar wins from six nominations...Jessica Lange.
Actually, prior to The Wife, Glenn Close was 6-1 with Oscar - Bafta too.
Edit: The Denzel and Freeman situation is interesting if you dig into the nominations further, as if you take Cry Freedom and Driving Miss Daisy out of the mix, the other dozen or so films that make up their combined nomination tally, have less than a handful of BAFTA nominations in total, and most of those are in the 'minor' categories. It seems like BAFTA are as disinterested in their films as they are in their performances. I think it's fair to say that if Denzel is ever getting a nomination from them, it'll require a Best Film contender that'll be sweeping the nominations to the point where it will be impossible for him not to get in.
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Post by michael128 on Aug 25, 2019 13:56:39 GMT
Beyoncé has been nominated for three Golden Globes, but has no Oscar nominations.
She’s also been nominated for Album of The Year three times and has yet to win.
She also has EIGHT Primetime Emmy nomination with no win. Hopefully that changes this year.
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Post by pacinoyes on Aug 25, 2019 15:26:29 GMT
Denholm Elliott "seems" to be the closest I can find related to BAFTA/Oscars acclaimed shutout in reverse - he had 8 BAFTA nods (Washington 8 Oscar nod) - he won 3 BAFTA in a row! - and only one Oscar nod (which came late in his career - A Room With A View at age 64). So somewhat close but not quite....... Dirk Bogarde may actually be closer even than Elliott is in a way - 5 BAFTA nods and all for Best Actor too - and 2 wins - but 0 Oscar nods. He might be the most acclaimed UK actor without corresponding US success.  |
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Post by eyebrowmorroco on Aug 27, 2019 12:47:48 GMT
Michael Wincott vs. well, every single awards body. He hasn't been nominated by anyone, anywhere. What an anomaly.
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 30, 2019 19:14:41 GMT
Since De Niro is factoring in now more solidly for a BA nod - if he gets a BAFTA nod and loses that will be his 7th loss/no wins .......Phoenix has 3 loses/no wins as well.
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Post by sirjeremy on Sept 30, 2019 20:17:51 GMT
Something I've always found odd is Vanessa Redgrave's BAFTA recognition having little similarity to her hit rate with AMPAS - in a film career that started almost sixty years ago BAFTA has only nominated her twice and didn't give her any wins but she has seven Oscar nominations, winning once.
Edit - just checked and she has six Oscar nominations, not seven.
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Post by pacinoyes on Oct 2, 2019 9:29:25 GMT
He doesn't quite fit here but Peter Finch is a fascinating disparity - 7 BAFTA nods, 5 wins (!).......he had no presence at the Oscars until much later, 2 nods and 1 win in the 70s.
Definitely one of those guys that was seen far differently across the two groups for a long time......
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Post by pacinoyes on May 18, 2020 19:02:26 GMT
This isn't close to Washingtom/Freeman like the Bogarde, Finch, Elliot, Vanessa Redgrave examples posted above with the Oscars but almost precisely in reverse - both bodies acting in a weird sync:
Christopher Plummer was never nodded for Bafta just like the Oscars until he was 80 - then twice in the 2010s for BAFTA (3 times for Oscar) - so he weirdly missed among both these bodies which acted in perfect sync through Beginners (2010) at age 80.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2020 20:35:19 GMT
I do think BAFTA has a weird blind spot when it comes to Glenn Close - it's not at the Denzel level, as she has been nominated twice (Dangerous Liaisons and The Wife), but just consider that in 1987 they nominated Douglas and Archer for Fatal Attraction, but not her. WTF?
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Post by pacinoyes on May 18, 2020 20:46:48 GMT
I do think BAFTA has a weird blind spot when it comes to Glenn Close - it's not at the Denzel level, as she has been nominated twice ( Dangerous Liaisons and The Wife), but just consider that in 1987 they nominated Douglas and Archer for Fatal Attraction, but not her. WTF? Yes - she's definitely one of the ones that are oddish and as Johnny_Hellzapoppin mentioned in his post Lange is even less than Close too- just 1 BAFTA nod for her. |
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Post by ingmarhepburn on May 18, 2020 22:24:39 GMT
Katharine Hepburn never won a Golden Globe, despite the many noms.
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Post by finniussnrub on May 19, 2020 1:23:06 GMT
Richard Attenborough as an actor, 2 Golden Globe wins consecutively, 1 BAFTA win from 3 nominations, yet not one Oscar nomination for acting.
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Post by pacinoyes on May 19, 2020 6:14:00 GMT
Richard Attenborough as an actor, 2 Golden Globe wins consecutively, 1 BAFTA win from 3 nominations, yet not one Oscar nomination for acting. Great mention - some of the GG mentions in this thread are real puzzlers in relation to Oscars - Katherine Hepburn.....William Holden...... |
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2020 2:54:36 GMT
I watched Cry Freedom for the first time today - can we talk about the lack of a BAFTA nomination for Washington for this film in particular? I mean, if he couldn't get nominated for a sprawling British epic directed by Richard Attenborough, what can he be nominated for? BAFTA of course loved the film, it received seven nominations - they nominated John Thaw for Supporting Actor instead for a performance that really didn't register at all...
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Post by sirjeremy on May 22, 2020 6:46:52 GMT
I watched Cry Freedom for the first time today - can we talk about the lack of a BAFTA nomination for Washington for this film in particular? I mean, if he couldn't get nominated for a sprawling British epic directed by Richard Attenborough, what can he be nominated for? BAFTA of course loved the film, it received seven nominations - they nominated John Thaw for Supporting Actor instead for a performance that really didn't register at all... Category confusion may have been a factor here. He was nominated in lead by the HFPA for this. |
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