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Post by stephen on Aug 20, 2019 18:54:09 GMT
A bit of a tougher group to whittle down:
1. William Hurt, Kiss of the Spider Woman
2. Christoph Waltz, Inglourious Basterds
3. Bob Hoskins, Mona Lisa
4. Javier Bardem, Biutiful
5. Joaquin Phoenix, You Were Never Really Here
1. Charlotte Gainsbourg, Antichrist
2. Kirsten Dunst, Melancholia
3. Kathy Burke, Nil by Mouth
4. Holly Hunter, The Piano
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Post by pupdurcs on Aug 20, 2019 19:45:45 GMT
A bit of a tougher group to whittle down:
1. William Hurt, Kiss of the Spider Woman
2. Christoph Waltz, Inglourious Basterds
3. Bob Hoskins, Mona Lisa
4. Javier Bardem, Biutiful
5. Joaquin Phoenix, You Were Never Really Here
It's your list, but I feel there are much better choices to be had here overall. Phoenix shouldnt even be there when you are leaving off people like David Thewlis in Naked. Too much recency bias as well, as if great acting only started happening after 1985.One could easily make a great list with some much older choices. Ray Milland in The Lost Weekend, Spencer Tracy in Bad Day At Black Rock, Richard Harris in This Sporting Life. And these are just English language winners Also, the very Hollywood friendly Javier Bardem aside (on your list anyway), I suspect a lot of the non-English language winners will have gone unseen, so it's probably a distinct disadvantage for them. |
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Post by stephen on Aug 20, 2019 19:47:18 GMT
A bit of a tougher group to whittle down:
1. William Hurt, Kiss of the Spider Woman
2. Christoph Waltz, Inglourious Basterds
3. Bob Hoskins, Mona Lisa
4. Javier Bardem, Biutiful
5. Joaquin Phoenix, You Were Never Really Here
It's your list, but I feel there are much better choices to be had here overall. Phoenix shouldnt even be there when you are leaving off people like David Thewlis in Naked. Too much recency bias as well, as if great acting only started happening after 1985.One could easily make a great list with some much older choices. Ray Milland in The Lost Weekend, Spencer Tracy in Bad Day At Black Rock, Richard Harris in This Sporting Life. And these are just English language winners Also, the very Hollywood friendly Javier Bardem aside (on your list anyway), I suspect a lot of the non-English language winners will have gone unseen, so it's probably a distinct disadvantage for them. Thewlis and Milland were fighting for that fifth slot, and honestly if you asked me ten minutes from now, one of them might swap with Phoenix. It's a veritable murderer's row of quality performances. |
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Post by pupdurcs on Aug 20, 2019 20:03:33 GMT
It's your list, but I feel there are much better choices to be had here overall. Phoenix shouldnt even be there when you are leaving off people like David Thewlis in Naked. Too much recency bias as well, as if great acting only started happening after 1985.One could easily make a great list with some much older choices. Ray Milland in The Lost Weekend, Spencer Tracy in Bad Day At Black Rock, Richard Harris in This Sporting Life. And these are just English language winners Also, the very Hollywood friendly Javier Bardem aside (on your list anyway), I suspect a lot of the non-English language winners will have gone unseen, so it's probably a distinct disadvantage for them. Thewlis and Milland were fighting for that fifth slot, and honestly if you asked me ten minutes from now, one of them might swap with Phoenix. It's a veritable murderer's row of quality performances. I think Phoenix was a fine winner in the context of the competition the year it came out, but in the history of the entire compeition, I'm not sure he'd crack my top 25 (and bear in mind, there are quite a few I haven't seen). I know Joaquin is your guy (and he's a tremendous actor), but I don't really think it's that tough a decision to pick say Gerard Depardieu in Cyrano De Bergerac instead. Or even Forrest Whitaker in Bird (and this is ignoring choices like Thewlis). |
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Post by Martin Stett on Aug 20, 2019 20:03:49 GMT
1. Christoph Waltz - Inglourious Basterds
2. Michael Redgrave - The Browning Version
3. David Thewlis - Naked
4. Jean-Louis Trintignant - Z
5. Spencer Tracy - Bad Day at Black Rock
1. Emilie Dequenne - Rosetta
2. Bette Davis - All About Eve
3. Sally Field - Norma Rae
4. Valerie Perrine - Lenny
5. Marie-Josee Croze - The Barbarian Invasions
The men are far more impressive than the women, but I've also seen far more winning performances on the male side.
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Post by themoviesinner on Aug 20, 2019 20:04:19 GMT
Actors:
1. Mads Mikkelsen - The Hunt
2. Ray Milland - The Lost Weekend
3. David Thewlis - Naked
4. Tony Chiu-Wai Leung - In The Mood For Love
5. Ge You - To Live
Actresses:
1. Krystyna Janda - Interrogation
2. Tatiana Samoilova - The Cranes Are Flying
3. Emilie Dequenne - Rosetta
4. Juliette Binoche - Certified Copy
5. Charlotte Gainsbourg - Antichrist
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Post by TerryMontana on Aug 20, 2019 20:14:46 GMT
Marlon Brando - Viva Zapata
Jack Nicholson - The Last Detail
Jack Lemmon - The China Syndrome
Jason Robards - Long Day's Journey into Night
Javier Bardem - Biutiful
Katharine Hepburn - Long Day's Journey into Night
Melina Mercouri - Never on Sunday
Bette Davis - All About Eve
Björk - Dancer in the Dark
Charlotte Gainsbourg - Antichrist
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Aug 20, 2019 21:32:42 GMT
ladies
Holly Hunter, The Piano
Simone Signoret, Room at the Top
Bette Davis, All About Eve
Melina Mercouri, Never on Sunday
Rooney Mara, Carol
gentlemen
William Hurt, Kiss of the Spider Woman
Jon Voight, Coming Home
Timothy Spall, Mr. Turner
Giancarlo Giannini, Love and Anarchy
James Spader, Sex, Lies, and Videotape
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Post by avnermoriarti on Aug 20, 2019 23:50:31 GMT
The group of winners here is stronger imo, so it was more difficult to narrow it down to 5, and like you, could add a different name at a given time, and even though, again, I have some major films unseen, I’m comfortable with this.
Actor
David Thewlis, Naked
Terence Stamp, The Collector
Javier Bardem, Biutiful
Per Oscarsson, Hunger
Yuya Yagira, Nobody Knows
Actress
Isabelle Huppert, The Piano Teacher
Bette Davis, All About Eve
Juliette Binoche, Certified Copy
Holly Hunter, The Piano
The cast of Volver
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Post by speeders on Aug 21, 2019 13:43:30 GMT
Mads Mikkelsen, The Hunt
Christoph Waltz, Inglorious Basterds
Joaquin Phoenix, You Were Never Really Here
Tony Chiu-Wai Leung, In The Mood For Love
Jack Lemmon, The China Syndrome
HM:
Timothy Spall, Mr. Turner
John Turturro, Barton Fink
Sophia Loren, Two Women
Guilietta Masina, Nights of Cabiria
Rooney Mara, Carol
Bette Davis, All About Eve
Penélope Cruz and the rest of the cast, Volver
HM:
Shelley Duvall, 3 Women
Valérie Perrine, Lenny
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Post by Mattsby on Aug 21, 2019 21:49:29 GMT
Adjani, Possession
Huppert, The Piano Teacher
Hep, Long Day’s Journey into Night
Holly Hunter, The Piano
Streep, Evil Angels
Bardem, Biutiful
Nicholson, The Last Detail
Robards, Long Day’s Journey into Night
Depardieu, Cyrano de Bergerac
Spader, SL&V
Some trivia!
The only actors/actresses with more than 1 win (all have 2) --
Huppert, Mirren, Redgrave, and Barbara Hershey. I love seeing Hershey grouped with those others.
Dean Stockwell, Jack Lemmon, and Mastroianni. So, Stockwell is the reigning champ, show sum respect!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 20:32:47 GMT
Maggie Cheung, Clean
Kirsten Dunst, Melancholia
Isabelle Huppert, The Piano Teacher
James Spader, Sex, Lies, and Videotape
Christoph Waltz, Inglourious Basterds
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Post by isabelaolive on Aug 26, 2019 1:21:24 GMT
I even wanted to make a list, but then I looked at the wikipedia page and realized that I watched very few performances that won the Palm D'or in Cannes.
In the future I plan to do a personal project and watch the winners separated for decades.
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Post by jimmalone on Aug 26, 2019 13:04:27 GMT
1. Gerard Depardieu - Cyrano de Bergerac
2. Javier Bardem - Biutiful
3. Jean Dujardin - The Artist
4. Jack Lemmon - The China Syndrome
5. Ray Milland - The Lost Weekend
HM: Tony Leung - In the Mood for Love, Mads Mikkelsen - The Hunt
1. Bette Davis - All About Eve
2. Sophia Loren - Two Women
3. Penelope Cruz - Volver
4. Brenda Blethyn - Secrets and Lies
5. Isa Miranda - The Walls of Malapaga
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