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Post by Good God on Jul 6, 2021 21:16:26 GMT
And so it begins, Franklin's first wrong prediction of the season Isn't this a little premature (at least with respect to the Cannes win part)?
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Post by mhynson27 on Jul 6, 2021 21:18:41 GMT
And so it begins, Franklin's first wrong prediction of the season Isn't this a little premature (at least with respect to the Cannes win part)? Just meant the Oscar nom, probably should have bolded that part.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 6, 2021 21:29:26 GMT
I know this an Oscar board so carry on about nods .............. .............but on a different note I'd say there's other elements in play for it career wise for Driver......at a certain point stuff like this ages well perhaps (I'd have to see it to know for sure) but there's a certain element of "if not him who?" to this....... like Moulin Rouge was for Kidman but not for lampshade McGregor and I can't stand Moulin Rouge ..........and while I like Kidman......not that much.....and not actually in Moulin Rouge but a lot of people love it, she got nodded for it...... Driver is playing the long game like that .....he's got IndieWire firmly in his corner ......just sayin........
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Post by TerryMontana on Jul 6, 2021 21:31:23 GMT
Reviews seem very mixed.
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Post by DeepArcher on Jul 6, 2021 21:37:35 GMT
Masterpiece confirmed.
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Post by Good God on Jul 6, 2021 21:42:48 GMT
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Post by quetee on Jul 6, 2021 21:56:40 GMT
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 6, 2021 21:58:48 GMT
Starts off at 70/100 on Metacritic and 83% (7.3/10) on Rotten Tomatoes. franklin rises
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Post by mhynson27 on Jul 6, 2021 22:03:02 GMT
Helberg is getting a lot of praise, you love to see it.
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Post by DanQuixote on Jul 6, 2021 22:36:26 GMT
I’m so excited for this.
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Post by franklin on Jul 6, 2021 22:45:09 GMT
Wait until he wins Best Actor at Cannes. Regardless of the movie's chances or actual quality, Driver will be pushed in the Actor category for this.
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Post by quetee on Jul 6, 2021 23:09:44 GMT
Wait until he wins Best Actor at Cannes. Regardless of the movie's chances or actual quality, Driver will be pushed in the Actor category for this. Wouldn't surprise me if he goes supporting for House of Gucci. It isn't his POV.
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Post by speeders on Jul 6, 2021 23:17:13 GMT
Wait until he wins Best Actor at Cannes. Regardless of the movie's chances or actual quality, Driver will be pushed in the Actor category for this. Wouldn't surprise me if he goes supporting for House of Gucci. It isn't his POV. This would make sense but I think in that case he'd split votes for his turn in The Last Duel which seems baitier. Then again, Gucci and Duel have different distributors so they'll likely submit him where they think he has a stronger chance, regardless of what Scott and Driver want. Regardless of where he's pushed for this, he stands a chance of vote splitting.
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Post by quetee on Jul 7, 2021 0:18:34 GMT
Wouldn't surprise me if he goes supporting for House of Gucci. It isn't his POV. This would make sense but I think in that case he'd split votes for his turn in The Last Duel which seems baitier. Then again, Gucci and Duel have different distributors so they'll likely submit him where they think he has a stronger chance, regardless of what Scott and Driver want. Regardless of where he's pushed for this, he stands a chance of vote splitting. After what happened to Lakeith, it just depends on where the actor wants to put you.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jul 7, 2021 1:01:27 GMT
exactly how I felt about Holy Motors
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Post by Good God on Jul 7, 2021 1:04:47 GMT
Hope this doesn't come back to bite me, but I'm going to make a few predictions here:
1. Driver will not be nominated for Annette 2. Driver will go Lead for Gucci and Supporting for Duel 3. Duel will not be a big Oscar player, so I think it's going to be Gucci or bust for Driver
Let's see how right or wrong I am about these things in a few months.
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Post by futuretrunks on Jul 7, 2021 1:15:27 GMT
Cash out your Adam Driver stock.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 7, 2021 2:15:29 GMT
I don't know really why people would have Driver as supporting for Gucci just because Gaga is the female lead - I mean, it's possible he's support but the movie has genuine supporting characters and I tend to doubt he's one .......because there's no indication they shot the trial and........the Driver character is in closer proximity in terms of relationships with all the known characters and shares scenes with Gaga and every other male you would think...... (everyone in the cast in fact except Hayek) I mean Gaga narrates but she narrates ABOUT his character........he's the focus of the piece though not the POV........a lesser co-lead I reckon........another issue a Gucci trailer would help about.......
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Post by mhynson27 on Jul 7, 2021 2:30:44 GMT
Hope this doesn't come back to bite me, but I'm going to make a few predictions here: 1. Driver will not be nominated for Annette2. Driver will go Lead for Gucci and Supporting for Duel3. Duel will not be a big Oscar player, so I think it's going to be Gucci or bust for Driver Let's see how right or wrong I am about these things in a few months. I agree with all 3 points.
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Post by stephen on Jul 7, 2021 2:40:35 GMT
Hope this doesn't come back to bite me, but I'm going to make a few predictions here: 1. Driver will not be nominated for Annette2. Driver will go Lead for Gucci and Supporting for Duel3. Duel will not be a big Oscar player, so I think it's going to be Gucci or bust for Driver Let's see how right or wrong I am about these things in a few months. I'll make a few follow-up predictions here, just for fun. 1. Annette goes nowhere with the industry but critics keep it alive randomly throughout the season with wins for things like Original Song and maybe some Adam Driver banner year mentions (and if the HFPA is still giving out awards, Cotillard gets a Musical Actress nomination), but at the end of the year we all laugh at how naive we were for thinking a Leos Carax film would be an Oscar player, regardless of its leads. 2. The Last Duel actually scores bigger with the Academy than Gucci overall thanks to its techs, and Adam Driver becomes a bigger threat to win for that than any of the Gucci cast. Also, somehow, the haircuts actually look better in context.
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Post by morton on Jul 7, 2021 3:14:14 GMT
Hope this doesn't come back to bite me, but I'm going to make a few predictions here: 1. Driver will not be nominated for Annette2. Driver will go Lead for Gucci and Supporting for Duel3. Duel will not be a big Oscar player, so I think it's going to be Gucci or bust for Driver Let's see how right or wrong I am about these things in a few months. I'll make a few follow-up predictions here, just for fun. 1. Annette goes nowhere with the industry but critics keep it alive randomly throughout the season with wins for things like Original Song and maybe some Adam Driver banner year mentions (and if the HFPA is still giving out awards, Cotillard gets a Musical Actress nomination), but at the end of the year we all laugh at how naive we were for thinking a Leos Carax film would be an Oscar player, regardless of its leads. 2. The Last Duel actually scores bigger with the Academy than Gucci overall thanks to its techs, and Adam Driver becomes a bigger threat to win for that than any of the Gucci cast. Also, somehow, the haircuts actually look better in context. 1. I gave up on Annette as an Oscar player when I first heard that it was going to be divisive, probably shouldn’t have had so much faith in it, but it’s still nowhere near my biggest Oscar bust lol. Still I hope for Sparks’s sake that they can get some random song nominations especially with televised awards. After watching their documentary, they always seemed like they were right on the cusp of bigger things but could never get there, so, it would be a shame if all of the goodwill for them right now didn’t do much for them. 2. Depending on the day, I’m still confident in both The Last Duel and House of Gucci, but I think with how competitive Best Actor seems versus Best Supporting Actor at least right now that Driver will also be a bigger threat in Supporting. Aside from maybe Jenkins in The Humans, which unfortunately I’m not really familiar with, no one at this, point although obviously it’s incredibly early feels like a winner in Supporting whereas in leading, even if Driver is nominated, I can’t see him being competitive this year with Washington, Smith, Cooper, and potentially a few others having what seem like baitier roles at least on paper.
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Post by stephen on Jul 7, 2021 3:23:44 GMT
2. Depending on the day, I’m still confident in both The Last Duel and House of Gucci, but I think with how competitive Best Actor seems versus Best Supporting Actor at least right now that Driver will also be a bigger threat in Supporting. Aside from maybe Jenkins in The Humans, which unfortunately I’m not really familiar with, no one at this, point although obviously it’s incredibly early feels like a winner in Supporting whereas in leading, even if Driver is nominated, I can’t see him being competitive this year with Washington, Smith, Cooper, and potentially a few others having what seem like baitier roles at least on paper. I feel pretty good about The Last Duel as a big tech player, probably the second biggest of the year behind Dune. Wolski said he feels it's his finest work from what he said a while ago, and while there's some bias to that, one thing that we know Ridley can do is put on a great technical show. And The Last Duel seems like it's also putting great importance on its script (which we know has largely been a failing of Ridley's latter-day fare; the fact that he's taking pains to ensure that a female perspective was augmented and that they brought on Nicole Holofcener to make sure that it wasn't given short-shrift just makes me feel there is a promising tack to take with a story that could fall into the conventional pile and wind up doing something neat with it. And Adam Driver is playing a legitimately great character on paper, and Supporting Actor does love its villains.
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Post by Good God on Jul 7, 2021 3:39:20 GMT
2. Depending on the day, I’m still confident in both The Last Duel and House of Gucci, but I think with how competitive Best Actor seems versus Best Supporting Actor at least right now that Driver will also be a bigger threat in Supporting. I expect at least one of Gucci and Duel to do well. Seems like a reasonable expectation because, while Scott is hit-or-miss, he's not miss-or-miss Also, despite Annette being divisive, I think there is no question that the overall response has been positive (so far, at least). It may not be an Oscar player, but it doesn't have to be an Oscar player for it to be a good addition to Driver's filmography and his body of work. 2. The Last Duel actually scores bigger with the Academy than Gucci overall thanks to its techs, and Adam Driver becomes a bigger threat to win for that than any of the Gucci cast. Also, somehow, the haircuts actually look better in context. I think Damon and Driver look fine; it's only Affleck that looks comical. I'm more uncertain about the language/accents.
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Post by stephen on Jul 7, 2021 3:55:22 GMT
2. The Last Duel actually scores bigger with the Academy than Gucci overall thanks to its techs, and Adam Driver becomes a bigger threat to win for that than any of the Gucci cast. Also, somehow, the haircuts actually look better in context. I think Damon and Driver look fine; it's only Affleck that looks comical. I'm more uncertain about the language/accents. Considering that Ridley once cast Harvey Keitel and Keith Carradine as Frenchmen, I'm hopeful that it won't be as bad.
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Post by TerryMontana on Jul 7, 2021 5:18:03 GMT
Hope this doesn't come back to bite me, but I'm going to make a few predictions here: 1. Driver will not be nominated for Annette2. Driver will go Lead for Gucci and Supporting for Duel3. Duel will not be a big Oscar player, so I think it's going to be Gucci or bust for Driver Let's see how right or wrong I am about these things in a few months. My thoughts exactly.
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