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Post by morton on Feb 20, 2019 21:55:26 GMT
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 20, 2019 22:07:26 GMT
I posted in the "Historical Event That Could Be The Subject Of A Great Film" - that the history of pro wrestling starting with the regional territories in the 30s through the 80s could be a major American film (mafia involvement, murders, manipulation of the wrestlers and audience, and sex for money with female wrestling - its an amazing expose that parallels American success and failures).
The problem with that film is no one takes it seriously to make the great complex movie that's there - you have to sell it to the audience as something not a joke. Hogan has a great story but it's not the one they'll make: he existed as a phenomenon right before his WWF run and his AWA early 80s period is a great story running in parallel to his big WWF success - a story of big money, broken promises and in a way betrayal too.
Hope this is good but the movie I want makes people rethink that industry rather than panders to it but we'll see.
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Post by Mattsby on Feb 20, 2019 22:57:44 GMT
I posted in the "Historical Event That Could Be The Subject Of A Great Film" - that the history of pro wrestling starting with the regional territories in the 30s through the 80s could be a major American film (mafia involvement, murders, manipulation of the wrestlers and audience, and sex for money with female wrestling - its an amazing expose that parallels American success and failures). The problem with that film is no one takes it seriously to make the great complex movie that's there - you have to sell it to the audience as something not a joke. Hogan has a great story but it's not the one they'll make: he existed as a phenomenon right before his WWF run and his AWA early 80s period is a great story running in parallel to his big WWF success - a story of big money, broken promises and in a way betrayal too. Hope this is good but the movie I want makes people rethink that industry rather than panders to it but we'll see. Curious, pac, who are some really interesting figures or some big names in the early years of wrestling? Not too early a figure but my friend the other day was telling me about Tony Atlas and I immediately thought oh that'd make a pretty good movie. Huge defeat against Hulk Hogan at MSG in '81 (use Hogan as a peripheral character rising to mega stardom while Atlas fades) , first black team to win the WWF tag title with Rocky Johnson, falling into drug addiction, around same time he starts playing the heel, soon homeless for a year in '89, then returns with an unpopular African stereotype role..... that's about as much as I know, seems really eccentric and interesting .
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 20, 2019 23:17:38 GMT
To me that early period mimics and contrasts the public side of it so that's what makes it stand out from legitimate sports - ie it always was racist and sexist but the audience for it (in America) was not (not the case with legit sports) - ie it was the only place where immigrants of every race and gender could interact as equals was at wrestling for a long time (on all 3 national networks in the 50s!) - and at a time African American (and other minorities) and female wrestlers were also posited as equal within that world (even if, behind the scenes they of course were not).
There are those pivotal wrestling figures like Lou Thesz, Buddy Rogers, Gorgeous George but also key regional promoters like Nick Gulas too - and that double sided aspect - performers and businessmen - makes everything that happens fascinating - ie the murder of say Bruiser Brody and its cover-up, the many tragic deaths (ie the Von Erichs), the rivalries of promotions and coexistence of the territories for a long time (it was like the mafia!), the sexual slavery rumors surrounding ladies wrestling.........
It needs a Boogie Nights type film to do it justice and legitimize the story. The Wrestler was a fine film but not in that way really.......to me it's a story of America or at least an America that was for a very long time.
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Post by mrimpossible on Feb 20, 2019 23:19:36 GMT
This will probably be another bomb for Hemsworth...
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Post by pendragon on Feb 21, 2019 1:50:33 GMT
I didn't see the "Hogan" part at first and got very confused.
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