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Post by Allenism on Jan 16, 2019 0:09:52 GMT
Really shitty film selection on a cross-country flight, so I just rolled with this one after not having seen it in a few years.
Aside from some clever directorial flourishes and JGL's megawatt performance, I can't say the thing holds up well. In fact, some the ideas that it bandies about regarding modern romance feel noticeably outdated, and the film came out less than a decade ago. I'm still not sure whether Summer as a character is supposed to be likeable/sympathetic at all, but if the entire screenplay is engineered to have her come out as the villain then it wasn't successful in doing so. She's like a walking collection of "cool-girl" tropes and what happens at the end just doesn't feel entirely convincing in light of all the things she previously says and does. Oh, and Deschanel is so goddamn lacklustre in the part even though it was practically sewn onto her. Can you imagine what someone like Rose Byrne could've done with the character?
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Post by countjohn on Jan 16, 2019 0:13:55 GMT
Liked it a lot when it was out but haven't seen it since
Given the ending I think it's pretty clear Summer isn't supposed to be the "villain" if there even is one in that kind of movie. Whether she's likable or not is subjective.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jan 16, 2019 0:28:07 GMT
I liked it well enough the first time I saw it... but then the second time I watched it, oooppphhhh. All I could think that second go around was how much of a fucking idiot JGL's character was. And as if that wasn't bad enough, they include what had to be the worst trend for a few years there with the young child being all-knowing and wise beyond their years. I'm inclined to recommend the Agent J route on this trope:  |
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Post by Allenism on Jan 16, 2019 0:32:06 GMT
I liked it well enough the first time I saw it... but then the second time I watched it, oooppphhhh. All I could think that second go around was how much of a fucking idiot JGL's character was. And as if that wasn't bad enough, they include what had to be the worst trend for a few years there with the young child being all-knowing and wise beyond their years. I'm inclined to recommend the Agent J route on this trope: No joke, I forgot Chloe Moretz was in it and when she showed up, I almost switched to another movie. Homegirl is in everything and contributes absolutely jack shit every time. |
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Post by DeepArcher on Jan 16, 2019 0:42:15 GMT
I’ve avoided watching it because it’s always seemed like something I’d hate.
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Post by getclutch on Jan 16, 2019 4:41:44 GMT
We become attached to the characters. It deserves to be well-known. Finally, the original soundtrack is so beautiful.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Jan 16, 2019 19:37:34 GMT
I love it. I think it works really well as a deconstruction of the "nice guy" fixation on the Manic Pixie Dream Girl trope, centering the perspective on Tom's delusions and setting up for a typical Garden State knockoff romance before effectively flipping it. Its success in maintaining Tom's perspective and implementing indie-romance tropes also made it easy for casual audiences to vilify Summer as soon as things take a turn, but I think the film does a remarkable recovery in the last act to mature Tom and by proxy keep a more grounded, less self-centered frame of reference. It felt very authentic to me, sometimes people do or don't feel something, have different ideas on interpersonal relationships, change over time, or have new things come up that can be difficult or inconvenient for someone and perhaps just as difficult or inconvenient to bring up in general. What I'm trying to get at is that feelings are messy, especially when talking about love and I thought the film reflected that in a clever fashion.
Side-note: just want to give a special note to how the film uses color to navigate Tom's mood and his overall arc even as the narrative goes all over the place in time.
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Post by forksforest on Jan 16, 2019 23:10:37 GMT
The worst
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 16, 2019 23:13:01 GMT
It's extremely pleasant and Deschanel is charming.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 1:25:46 GMT
I love it. I think it works really well as a deconstruction of the "nice guy" fixation on the Manic Pixie Dream Girl trope, centering the perspective on Tom's delusions and setting up for a typical Garden State knockoff romance before effectively flipping it. Its success in maintaining Tom's perspective and implementing indie-romance tropes also made it easy for casual audiences to vilify Summer as soon as things take a turn, but I think the film does a remarkable recovery in the last act to mature Tom and by proxy keep a more grounded, less self-centered frame of reference. It felt very authentic to me, sometimes people do or don't feel something, have different ideas on interpersonal relationships, change over time, or have new things come up that can be difficult or inconvenient for someone and perhaps just as difficult or inconvenient to bring up in general. What I'm trying to get at is that feelings are messy, especially when talking about love and I thought the film reflected that in a clever fashion. Side-note: just want to give a special note to how the film uses color to navigate Tom's mood and his overall arc even as the narrative goes all over the place in time. Yeah, you pretty much nail it. I'll add that the message the ending conveys is obvious (there's always more fish in the sea...duh), but maybe not so much for people who have just gone through a rough split. I've seen it happen. You just get too caught up in your feelings. It's a nice movie. |
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Post by jakesully on Jan 17, 2019 5:00:36 GMT
it was a cute/harmless little indie film (I liked the two leads enough and thought they had good chemistry in this)
Also , liked the part when they were in IKEA
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Jan 17, 2019 8:31:07 GMT
I detested it and I will never watch it again, perhaps even under threat of violence.
I think that of all the films I've seen from the 10 years previous to this new one, which received a decent level of critical love, I only dislike Black Swan more.
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