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Post by michael128 on Feb 28, 2017 2:31:12 GMT
Seriously what an effing jerk. Clearly just throwing a tantrum cause he lost. Did he really think that was the appropriate way to announce the winner? "Guys guys Moonlight won. This is not a joke (as if anyone thought it would be? homophobic/racist much). Moonlight COME GET YOUR OSCAR. HERE TAKE IT" like wtf. he completely robbed them of their moment. what i, and any rational person, would have done would be to say "guys there was a mistake with the wrong envelope. please everyone return to their seats so warren can announce the winner properly". instead he had to act all macho and aggressive, rip the envelope out of an elder's hand and show it to the world as if he was announcing the end of apartheid. there's a special place in hell for people like him.  you can see the hatred in his eyes |
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Post by DingoMatty on Feb 28, 2017 2:35:14 GMT
I can imagine you handling this situation with all the grace that you attack your daily life with m. You'd obviously handle it much better.
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Post by nic-dreadwolf-marling on Feb 28, 2017 3:28:06 GMT
What year is it in your dimension? How are you able to travel between your dimension and ours? I mean, you're so incredibly off base you have to be from some alternate dimension where this makes even an ounce of sense. Who won the other awards where you're from?
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Post by doodle on Feb 28, 2017 3:57:47 GMT
OP are the types of morons I'm talking about referring to my other post.
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Post by Javi on Feb 28, 2017 5:44:37 GMT
Seriously what an effing jerk. Clearly just throwing a tantrum cause he lost. Did he really think that was the appropriate way to announce the winner? "Guys guys Moonlight won. This is not a joke (as if anyone thought it would be? homophobic/racist much). Moonlight COME GET YOUR OSCAR. HERE TAKE IT" like wtf. he completely robbed them of their moment. what i, and any rational person, would have done would be to say "guys there was a mistake with the wrong envelope. please everyone return to their seats so warren can announce the winner properly". instead he had to act all macho and aggressive, rip the envelope out of an elder's hand and show it to the world as if he was announcing the end of apartheid. there's a special place in hell for people like him. you can see the hatred in his eyes Totally agreed. |
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Post by bobbystarks on Feb 28, 2017 5:49:23 GMT
I'm sure you would handle the situation perfectly if you were up there.
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Post by spiralstatic on Feb 28, 2017 7:48:43 GMT
You must be taking the Michael, Michael!   Come on: the guy had just ripped his heart out in a speech. It was probably the greatest moment of his life, and he was very gracious in the way he said he'd hand the award over to Moonlight. Of course he's annoyed. If you're Ryan Gosling, you can afford to laugh it off - but he's basically just been humiliated in front of the world. So he whipped the card out of Warren's hand. Most people would have stood there and just waited and made the people in charge of the show or Warren himself do the awkward announcement then pull the Oscar out of La La Land's hands. Would that have been a nicer thing to do...? Nicer for Moonlight? Nicer for anyone?  I'm thinking more awkward! |
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Post by JangoB on Feb 28, 2017 8:08:44 GMT
lol, why are people taking michael's trolling seriously?
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Post by fotodude on Feb 28, 2017 8:12:09 GMT
People did think it was a joke. But that's just one of the many things you're wrong about.
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Post by phenix714 on Feb 28, 2017 10:07:24 GMT
I'm sure it took you some time to think of that alternative way he could have handled it, so you can't blame him when he only had a few seconds to decide what to do.
I don't like the way he snatched the enveloppe either, but again it's understandable.
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Post by countjohn on Feb 28, 2017 23:31:24 GMT
The reason he said it's not a joke is because they had already announced La La Land as the winner and were in the middle of speeches.
I can understand how someone could say he was rude to Beatty, but physically showing people the paper was important because if they didn't people would be very confused and doubt the outcome.
From the tone of your OP I'm sort of getting the impression that you actually wouldn't have handled the situation very well at all.
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Post by michael128 on Mar 1, 2017 2:35:59 GMT
There are some psychos on this board
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Post by fotodude on Mar 1, 2017 8:00:58 GMT
The reason he said it's not a joke is because they had already announced La La Land as the winner and were in the middle of speeches. I can understand how someone could say he was rude to Beatty, but physically showing people the paper was important because if they didn't people would be very confused and doubt the outcome. From the tone of your OP I'm sort of getting the impression that you actually wouldn't have handled the situation very well at all. This. |
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Post by harlequinade on Mar 1, 2017 12:51:01 GMT
I can imagine you handling this situation with all the grace that you attack your daily life with m. You'd obviously handle it much better. Violently taking that card away from Beatty's hand was rude and the situation doesn't excuse it. The only reason he did that was because of pissy remark the other producer made which really made them all look bad. So he rushed in there, snatched the envelope and for some reaosn took it upon himself to announce to winner when Beatty already had the envelope in his hand and Kimmel already run on the stage. |
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Mar 1, 2017 13:19:47 GMT
I can imagine you handling this situation with all the grace that you attack your daily life with m. You'd obviously handle it much better. Violently taking that card away from Beatty's hand was rude and the situation doesn't excuse it. The only reason he did that was because of pissy remark the other producer made which really made them all look bad. So he rushed in there, snatched the envelope and for some reaosn took it upon himself to announce to winner when Beatty already had the envelope in his hand and Kimmel already run on the stage.  I have to agree, there was a petulance with the way he grabbed that from Beatty. |
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Post by DingoMatty on Mar 1, 2017 19:02:07 GMT
I can imagine you handling this situation with all the grace that you attack your daily life with m. You'd obviously handle it much better. Violently taking that card away from Beatty's hand was rude and the situation doesn't excuse it. The only reason he did that was because of pissy remark the other producer made which really made them all look bad. So he rushed in there, snatched the envelope and for some reaosn took it upon himself to announce to winner when Beatty already had the envelope in his hand and Kimmel already run on the stage. You're right, m would've handled the situation much better. |
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Post by harlequinade on Mar 1, 2017 19:07:14 GMT
Violently taking that card away from Beatty's hand was rude and the situation doesn't excuse it. The only reason he did that was because of pissy remark the other producer made which really made them all look bad. So he rushed in there, snatched the envelope and for some reaosn took it upon himself to announce to winner when Beatty already had the envelope in his hand and Kimmel already run on the stage. You're right, m would've handled the situation much better. I don't know m (?) so I can't speak to that. But that someone depicted this kind of ill temper on live TV when they know millions are watching and to a complete stranger too took me aback. |
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Post by fotodude on Mar 1, 2017 19:07:45 GMT
I can imagine you handling this situation with all the grace that you attack your daily life with m. You'd obviously handle it much better. Violently taking that card away from Beatty's hand was rude and the situation doesn't excuse it. The only reason he did that was because of pissy remark the other producer made which really made them all look bad. So he rushed in there, snatched the envelope and for some reaosn took it upon himself to announce to winner when Beatty already had the envelope in his hand and Kimmel already run on the stage. Might've been rude at first but Beatty was hesitating and he wanted to solve the situation quickly (just like producers tend to do) and not leave any trace of doubt as to the legitimate winner and its acceptance from the La La Land crew. It made it more solemn and valuable. |
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Post by harlequinade on Mar 1, 2017 19:13:57 GMT
Violently taking that card away from Beatty's hand was rude and the situation doesn't excuse it. The only reason he did that was because of pissy remark the other producer made which really made them all look bad. So he rushed in there, snatched the envelope and for some reaosn took it upon himself to announce to winner when Beatty already had the envelope in his hand and Kimmel already run on the stage. Might've been rude at first but Beatty was hesitating and he wanted to solve the situation quickly (just like producers tend to do) and not leave any trace of doubt as to the legitimate winner and its acceptance from the La La Land crew. It made it more solemn and valuable. To me it was clear this was only triggered when the other guy made that silly remark. That's when it sorta clicked 'OK we are starting to look bad/this is becoming embarrassing' and that's when he said there was a mistake. I think everything else he did was fine and he was gracious to Moonlight guys but comparing to Stone and Gosling's reactions...sure he was just forced to give up his Oscar but to me his temper in this quick moment was just shocking. And since everything else was really handled quite well it really sticks out |
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Post by filmnoir on Mar 1, 2017 19:16:32 GMT
I disagree. Considering the embarrassment the LLL team had endured, he earned the right to take control of the chaos. Up to this point, Beatty's only reaction was staying silent and grinning. He obviously knew something was wrong, yet he said nothing - which compounded the situation.
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Post by harlequinade on Mar 1, 2017 19:23:11 GMT
I disagree. Considering the embarrassment the LLL team had endured, he earned the right to take control of the chaos. Up to this point, Beatty's only reaction was staying silent and grinning. He obviously knew something was wrong, yet he said nothing - which compounded the situation. Why do people say embarrassment...it wasn't LLL team's fault what happened. If anything people feel bad for them that they thought they won and it wasn't the case. |
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Mar 1, 2017 19:24:40 GMT
Might've been rude at first but Beatty was hesitating and he wanted to solve the situation quickly (just like producers tend to do) and not leave any trace of doubt as to the legitimate winner and its acceptance from the La La Land crew. It made it more solemn and valuable. To me it was clear this was only triggered when the other guy made that silly remark. That's when it sorta clicked 'OK we are starting to look bad/this is becoming embarrassing' and that's when he said there was a mistake. I think everything else he did was fine and he was gracious to Moonlight guys but comparing to Stone and Gosling's reactions...sure he was just forced to give up his Oscar but to me his temper in this quick moment was just shocking. And since everything else was really handled quite well it really sticks out I've said before that I have absolutely zero problem with how anybody handled the absolutely insane situation. I think Horowitz was seeing that nobody was taking to the mic and letting the audience and rightful winners know what happened so he stepped up to do so himself. You can see he starts walking towards the mic just as the one producer is going "we lost by the way," so I don't think there's any sort of pre-meditated idea that he did what he did to keep them from looking bad. Then, when he finally stated that there was a mistake, he quickly saw that the card was there and while still standing at the mic wanted to show the audience that he was not messing around. It all happened so fast that I don't think it had anything to do with poor temper, just trying to resolve the situation as quickly as possible and give the Moonlight team the award they earned. |
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Post by filmnoir on Mar 1, 2017 19:56:06 GMT
Jordan Horowitz was also nothing but gracious to the Moonlight team - in what must have been a very uncomfortable situation for everyone.
Personally, I could care less about Warren Beatty. He obviously knew something was wrong when he open the envelop, yet proceeded to announce "And the Academy Award for Best Picture Goes To"......then just handed the card to Faye Dunaway.
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Post by harlequinade on Mar 1, 2017 19:57:58 GMT
I read today on a gossip website that him and Dunaway were arguing over who gets to read the winner  So now some people say it may be intentional that he just let her read it when he knew the envelope was the wrong one or that he is still mad she shot him down when he hit on her 50 years ago |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 20:06:59 GMT
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I'm thinking more awkward!
I have to agree, there was a petulance with the way he grabbed that from Beatty.
