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Post by HELENA MARIA on Dec 18, 2018 19:08:50 GMT
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Post by pupdurcs on Dec 18, 2018 20:16:50 GMT
Idris should try telling that to Morgan Freeman or Aziz Ansari. Both nearly had their careers wrecked because some women decided to redefine the parameters (in Freeman's case falsely) of sexual harassment or assault in the wake of #metoo.
Freeman was falsely accused of reckless eyeballing a pregnant reporter, then all his previous on camera flirtations with female reporters were redefined to try and make him seem like a dangerous sex pest.
It's much more complex than that, and while Idris somewhat pandering statement will further reinforce his dreamboat status to many women, we've already seen the potential of the movement to be abused.
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 18, 2018 20:28:19 GMT
I think that's like when people say things like "why do you need a lawyer to talk the police if you have nothing to hide pal why do you need a lawyer huh?"
Pandering is a good word for it .......
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Post by stephen on Dec 18, 2018 20:30:34 GMT
Idris should try telling that to Morgan Freeman or Aziz Ansari. Both nearly had their careers wrecked because some women decided to redefine the parameters (in Freeman's case falsely) of sexual harassment or assault in the wake of #metoo. Freeman was falsely accused of reckless eyeballing a pregnant reporter, then all his previous on camera flirtations with female reporters were redefined to try and make him seem like a dangerous sex pest. It's much more complex than that, and while Idris somewhat pandering statement will further reinforce his dreamboat status to many women, we've already seen the potential of the movement to be abused. I mean, Elba's still right for saying it. I will admit that the culture of automatically "cancelling" someone the second something comes out without any sort of evidence is entirely overblown, but Elba is absolutely correct that the #metoo movement, in its proper context, should not be a threat to anyone who doesn't have anything to hide. Ansari and Freeman took definite hits because of the reactionary attitudes of the 24-hour news cycle and social media in general, which already denounced them as fiends without delving deep enough into the situations, but they are most definitely outliers rather than the given norm. And it should also be said that neither man's actions are completely innocent of scrutiny; Ansari's were representative of a presumed expectancy of sex, regardless of whether or not the meeting was consensual, which speaks to a negative male outlook in regards to whether or not consent actually denotes, whereas Freeman's behavior speaks to a general workplace unprofessionalism that, in all seriousness, really shouldn't be acceptable, and while I wouldn't call him a deviant, that sort of overt familiarity can be unnerving to someone who isn't in a position of power to speak against it. Elba's saying that if a man is truly innocent, he shouldn't be afraid of the #metoo movement. Freeman and Ansari were investigated, and the full stories (as far as we know) have come out. Freeman acknowledges that his actions could've been construed in a negative way and apologized, while Ansari's opened up a different discussion entirely that should be held.
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Post by Martin Stett on Dec 18, 2018 20:37:47 GMT
Idris should try telling that to Morgan Freeman or Aziz Ansari. Both nearly had their careers wrecked because some women decided to redefine the parameters (in Freeman's case falsely) of sexual harassment or assault in the wake of #metoo. Freeman was falsely accused of reckless eyeballing a pregnant reporter, then all his previous on camera flirtations with female reporters were redefined to try and make him seem like a dangerous sex pest. It's much more complex than that, and while Idris somewhat pandering statement will further reinforce his dreamboat status to many women, we've already seen the potential of the movement to be abused. I mean, Elba's still right for saying it. I will admit that the culture of automatically "cancelling" someone the second something comes out without any sort of evidence is entirely overblown, but Elba is absolutely correct that the #metoo movement, in its proper context, should not be a threat to anyone who doesn't have anything to hide. Ansari and Freeman took definite hits because of the reactionary attitudes of the 24-hour news cycle and social media in general, which already denounced them as fiends without delving deep enough into the situations, but they are most definitely outliers rather than the given norm. And it should also be said that neither man's actions are completely innocent of scrutiny; Ansari's were representative of a presumed expectancy of sex, regardless of whether or not the meeting was consensual, which speaks to a negative male outlook in regards to whether or not consent actually denotes, whereas Freeman's behavior speaks to a general workplace unprofessionalism that, in all seriousness, really shouldn't be acceptable, and while I wouldn't call him a deviant, that sort of overt familiarity can be unnerving to someone who isn't in a position of power to speak against it. Elba's saying that if a man is truly innocent, he shouldn't be afraid of the #metoo movement. Freeman and Ansari were investigated, and the full stories (as far as we know) have come out. Freeman acknowledges that his actions could've been construed in a negative way and apologized, while Ansari's opened up a different discussion entirely that should be held. What of the Garrison Keillor case, which (as far as I know) consisted of a single allegation and resulted in everything he touches being cancelled? I mean, he had retired from A Prairie Home Companion shortly before, but wasn't he cancelled from all of his stuff he was currently working on at the time?
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Post by stephen on Dec 18, 2018 20:44:29 GMT
I mean, Elba's still right for saying it. I will admit that the culture of automatically "cancelling" someone the second something comes out without any sort of evidence is entirely overblown, but Elba is absolutely correct that the #metoo movement, in its proper context, should not be a threat to anyone who doesn't have anything to hide. Ansari and Freeman took definite hits because of the reactionary attitudes of the 24-hour news cycle and social media in general, which already denounced them as fiends without delving deep enough into the situations, but they are most definitely outliers rather than the given norm. And it should also be said that neither man's actions are completely innocent of scrutiny; Ansari's were representative of a presumed expectancy of sex, regardless of whether or not the meeting was consensual, which speaks to a negative male outlook in regards to whether or not consent actually denotes, whereas Freeman's behavior speaks to a general workplace unprofessionalism that, in all seriousness, really shouldn't be acceptable, and while I wouldn't call him a deviant, that sort of overt familiarity can be unnerving to someone who isn't in a position of power to speak against it. Elba's saying that if a man is truly innocent, he shouldn't be afraid of the #metoo movement. Freeman and Ansari were investigated, and the full stories (as far as we know) have come out. Freeman acknowledges that his actions could've been construed in a negative way and apologized, while Ansari's opened up a different discussion entirely that should be held. What of the Garrison Keillor case, which (as far as I know) consisted of a single allegation and resulted in everything he touches being cancelled? I mean, he had retired from A Prairie Home Companion shortly before, but wasn't he cancelled from all of his stuff he was currently working on at the time? I haven't kept up with the Keillor story, but looking into it cursorily, there were a few other allegations that the investigation into Keillor turned up, as per Wikipedia: " On January 23, 2018, MPR News reported further on the investigation after interviewing almost 60 people who had worked with Keillor. The story described other alleged sexual misconduct by Keillor, and a $16,000 severance check for a woman who was asked to sign a confidentiality agreement to prevent her from talking about her time at MPR (she refused and never deposited the check)."
Now again, I feel that the people who are either anti-#metoo or think that Elba's statement is to sweeping a generalization designed to, as scrudpup says, "pander" should be more frustrated at the reactionary culture we live in as a whole, rather than what the movement itself stands for. Yes, it can and has been weaponized in a way that immediately puts a label on someone without due process. But that's not a new occurrence. The way that social media and the 24-hour news cycle take the bare fragments of a story and spin it to get ratings or likes before a proper investigation has been performed is ridiculous and should be condemned and criticized. But I do believe that any accusation should be met with a serious investigation. Doesn't mean I'm going to automatically believe it or not, but I'm not going to just dismiss it just because I like the accused's work.
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Post by pupdurcs on Dec 18, 2018 22:36:52 GMT
Idris should try telling that to Morgan Freeman or Aziz Ansari. Both nearly had their careers wrecked because some women decided to redefine the parameters (in Freeman's case falsely) of sexual harassment or assault in the wake of #metoo. Freeman was falsely accused of reckless eyeballing a pregnant reporter, then all his previous on camera flirtations with female reporters were redefined to try and make him seem like a dangerous sex pest. It's much more complex than that, and while Idris somewhat pandering statement will further reinforce his dreamboat status to many women, we've already seen the potential of the movement to be abused. I mean, Elba's still right for saying it. I will admit that the culture of automatically "cancelling" someone the second something comes out without any sort of evidence is entirely overblown, but Elba is absolutely correct that the #metoo movement, in its proper context, should not be a threat to anyone who doesn't have anything to hide. Ansari and Freeman took definite hits because of the reactionary attitudes of the 24-hour news cycle and social media in general, which already denounced them as fiends without delving deep enough into the situations, but they are most definitely outliers rather than the given norm. And it should also be said that neither man's actions are completely innocent of scrutiny; Ansari's were representative of a presumed expectancy of sex, regardless of whether or not the meeting was consensual, which speaks to a negative male outlook in regards to whether or not consent actually denotes, whereas Freeman's behavior speaks to a general workplace unprofessionalism that, in all seriousness, really shouldn't be acceptable, and while I wouldn't call him a deviant, that sort of overt familiarity can be unnerving to someone who isn't in a position of power to speak against it. Elba's saying that if a man is truly innocent, he shouldn't be afraid of the #metoo movement. Freeman and Ansari were investigated, and the full stories (as far as we know) have come out. Freeman acknowledges that his actions could've been construed in a negative way and apologized, while Ansari's opened up a different discussion entirely that should be held. Freeman and Ansari are not outliers though. Several men have been hit by social media prompted #metoo claims, lost work and seen their reputations peremanently damaged, only to later be exonerated. Chris Hardwick got suspended from his job and lost several gigs because his ex-girlfriend decided their relationship had been "abusive. He was cleared and now back at work, but he's got a scarlet letter on his back forever. Ed Westwick, former Gossip Girl star, was hit with online rape allegations, immediately lost work (his role in a prestige BBC mini-series was completely reshot as soon as the allegations hit). Police investigated, there was not enough evidence for a case to be made. Now the BBC have rehired him and he was back on set last week for the second season of his sitcom, White Gold. Even Michael Douglas had to pre-empt a denial from a disgruntled former female employee who claimed he masturbated in front of her 30 years ago. That could have done immesaurable damage to Douglas, if he had not taken the strategy of coming out in front of the story before it hit. Listen, I was all like you at the start. I thought #metoo was doing a public service by exposing a lot of scumbags. But the overall effects of it are damaging to society as a whole. The movement presumes women cannot be as vindictive, manipulative and dishonest as men, which is utterly ludicrous. Look at the sheer duplicity of Asia Argento, one of the faces of #metoo, herself an abuser who lied with the ease of a serpent. #metoo can infantilse women, and no, I don't instantly "believe women". That's not sexist....just acknowledgeing a world where Emmett Tills happen far too often. Trust between the genders is at an all time low, and I belive #metoo is contributing to that. What was once considered harmless flirtation can now cost some one their job and reputation. A woman can now retroactively decide some interaction with a man made her "uncomfortable" and go on social media to ruin his life. And everyone will say "You Go Girl!", without giving a second thought to due process or her motives. A woman in a relationship gone wrong, or even a bad date now knows that if she wants payback, there's always #metoo to play on. It's too much of a shitshow, imho.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Dec 18, 2018 22:50:49 GMT
Just like being innocent saves you from being shot by the co-- OH WAIT!
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Post by Joaquim on Dec 18, 2018 23:06:16 GMT
“The NSA should be free to conduct warrant less searches on everyone. Only people with something to hide need to be worried”.
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Post by countjohn on Dec 18, 2018 23:09:37 GMT
MeToo has mostly been fine but comments like this come off as McCarthyist or like something someone would have said about indefinite detentions or whatever during the post 9/11 paranoia of W's first term. Comments like this aren't really helpful because it makes the movement come off as authoritarian or anti due process.
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Post by wattsnew on Dec 19, 2018 1:18:58 GMT
I fucking love Idris. One of the few good men left in Hollywood.
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Post by wattsnew on Dec 19, 2018 1:20:24 GMT
And LOL @ the notion that "false" accusations can ruin a man's career/reputation. Look at Chris Hardwick!
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Dec 19, 2018 3:21:15 GMT
Listen, I was all like you at the start. I thought #metoo was doing a public service by exposing a lot of scumbags. But the overall effects of it are damaging to society as a whole. This is the stupidest shit I've read all day. The "overall effects of this movement that has exposed hundreds of individuals is damaging overall because of my five examples." Get the fuck over yourself Here's the full list of accused from Vox, and yes it includes individuals that have since been mostly cleared. But for your statement to be true the majority of these cases would have to be false. And without evidence you have no business making that assumption in favor of the men in power. Speak for yourself. Elba doesn't seem to have any trust issues with women. And you know what happens 100 times more often than Emmett Tills? Sean Hannitys and Harvey Weinsteins. It's easy to retroactively criticize a movement for overcorrecting and in the process ignore and/or forget how much the fucked-up status quo needed correcting in the first place (which is what you're doing). #MeToo has been the chemotherapy for a cancerous culture of predation, objectification, harassment, abuse, and cover-up in the film industry. What happened to Ansari and Freeman was unfortunate but I have less sympathy for them than the thousands of sexual misconduct victims who have been largely unable to speak out (or when they did they were simply ignored or silenced) and now for the first time feel empowered to do so. But by all means, keep distrusting the testimony of hundreds of women on the basis of your five examples.
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Post by bob-coppola on Dec 19, 2018 3:42:44 GMT
Listen, I think we all agree that it's stupid and sad that Freeman and others had their careeers threatened over false allegations. No one deserves to pay the price for something they didn't do. With that said, they're the minority. The pros of the MeToo movement are still so, so much bigger than the cons.
For every Ansari that's mistakenly accused of something, there's countless of famous and faceless men and women who come forward to talk about traumatic or inconvenient situations they had to go through. We saw powerful abusive men like Weinstein and Spacey facing backlash and having to answer for awful things they thought they'd gotten away with.
Elba is right. The Freemans and Douglas are put in an awkward situation, but we all have to keep some things in mind: 1) they're men, and society as a whole will always give them the benefit of doubt. A woman who's accused to be abusive or just slightly mean is outright written-out of the industry. If you step out of the internet social justice bubble, that's how things work; and 2) they can prove their innocence and move on with their lives.
Not to sound dramatic - I swear I have better arguments than this -, but saying MeToo is rotten or misguided because of 3 or 4 cases among dozens of others is like saying we should ban the law that says murder is wrong because some innocent people are convicted. We shouldn't abolish MeToo, we just need to be a little less sensationalist about it.
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Post by pupdurcs on Dec 19, 2018 3:43:06 GMT
Listen, I was all like you at the start. I thought #metoo was doing a public service by exposing a lot of scumbags. But the overall effects of it are damaging to society as a whole. This is the stupidest shit I've read all day. The "overall effects of this movement that has exposed hundreds of individuals is damaging overall because of my five examples." Get the fuck over yourself Here's the full list of accused from Vox, and yes it includes individuals that have since been mostly cleared. But for your statement to be true the majority of these cases would have to be false. And without evidence you have no business making that assumption in favor of the men in power. Speak for yourself. Elba doesn't seem to have any trust issues with women. And you know what happens 100 times more often than Emmett Tills? Sean Hannitys and Harvey Weinsteins. It's easy to retroactively criticize a movement for overcorrecting and in the process ignore and/or forget how much the fucked-up status quo needed correcting in the first place (which is what you're doing). #MeToo has been the chemotherapy for a cancerous culture of predation, objectification, harassment, abuse, and cover-up in the film industry. What happened to Ansari and Freeman was unfortunate but I have less sympathy for them than the thousands of sexual misconduct victims who have been largely unable to speak out (or when they did they were simply ignored or silenced) and now for the first time feel empowered to do so. But by all means, keep distrusting the testimony of hundreds of women on the basis of your five examples. How do you know how many times Emmet Tills have happened? Black men for decades, if not centuries were regularly hung from trees or beaten to death because white women had little issue claiming "rape", especially if it got them out of trouble. That stuff happened on the regular. Making false accusations of sexual impropriety has cost hundreds, if not thousands of Emmet Tills their lives over the years. You got any sympathy for thousands of dead negros either? Probably not by the sounds of things. Sacrifices must be made and all that. Sexual Crimes are bad and need to be punished. And I'm glad fuckers like Weinstein and Les Moonves got their come uppance. But overall, it"s a movement that can be too easily weaponized and requires checks and balances.
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Dec 19, 2018 3:52:17 GMT
Listen, I was all like you at the start. I thought #metoo was doing a public service by exposing a lot of scumbags. But the overall effects of it are damaging to society as a whole. This is the stupidest shit I've read all day. The "overall effects of this movement that has exposed hundreds of individuals is damaging overall because of my five examples." Get the fuck over yourself Here's the full list of accused from Vox, and yes it includes individuals that have since been mostly cleared. But for your statement to be true the majority of these cases would have to be false. And without evidence you have no business making that assumption in favor of the men in power. Speak for yourself. Elba doesn't seem to have any trust issues with women. And you know what happens 100 times more often than Emmett Tills? Sean Hannitys and Harvey Weinsteins. It's easy to retroactively criticize a movement for overcorrecting and in the process ignore and/or forget how much the fucked-up status quo needed correcting in the first place (which is what you're doing). #MeToo has been the chemotherapy for a cancerous culture of predation, objectification, harassment, abuse, and cover-up in the film industry. What happened to Ansari and Freeman was unfortunate but I have less sympathy for them than the thousands of sexual misconduct victims who have been largely unable to speak out (or when they did they were simply ignored or silenced) and now for the first time feel empowered to do so. But by all means, keep distrusting the testimony of hundreds of women on the basis of your five examples. You are such a gullible & disingenuous SJW PC culture lapdog / mindless sheep follower, it's LITERALLY nauseating reading your tripe. And thanks for your permission: I WILL keep not believing women with ZERO testimony or evidence whatsoever and assuming innocence till proven guilty like common sense dictates. Was gonna do it anyway, but doing it with your approval makes me all tingly inside. 😆👌 And it's NOT 4 or 5 cases, it's more than a third of the #MeToo hype that are pure witch hunt bullshit!!
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Dec 19, 2018 3:55:41 GMT
How do you know how many times Emmet Tills have happened? Black men for decades, if not centuries were regularly hung from trees or beaten to death because white women had little issue claiming "rape", especially if it got them out of trouble. That stuff happened on the regular. Making false accusations of sexual impropriety has cost hundreds, if not thousands of Emmet Tills their lives over the years. You got any sympathy for thousands of dead negros either? Probably not by the sounds of things. Sexual Crimes are bad and need to be punished. And I'm glad fuckers like Weinstein and Les Moonves got their come uppance. But overall, it"s a movement that can be too easily weaponized and requires checks and balances. Emmett Till was a young impoverished boy in a marginalized minority, not an exec at a film studio. The woman who accused him (who herself was pressured by those around her) had nothing to lose by accusing him. No career or reputation to be affected. No threat of millions of people online shaming her, calling her a slut or a liar, or releasing her personal information. So Emmett Till is a terrible example to begin with. Has absolutely no bearing on the allegations of the #MeToo movement or on the ones being accused. Also no one's being lynched.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Dec 19, 2018 3:56:45 GMT
And it's NOT 4 or 5 cases, it's more than two-thirds of the #MeToo hype that are pure witch hunt bullshit!! Would LOVE to see that evidence.
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Dec 19, 2018 3:58:17 GMT
Idris should try telling that to Morgan Freeman or Aziz Ansari. Both nearly had their careers wrecked because some women decided to redefine the parameters (in Freeman's case falsely) of sexual harassment or assault in the wake of #metoo. Freeman was falsely accused of reckless eyeballing a pregnant reporter, then all his previous on camera flirtations with female reporters were redefined to try and make him seem like a dangerous sex pest. It's much more complex than that, and while Idris somewhat pandering statement will further reinforce his dreamboat status to many women, we've already seen the potential of the movement to be abused. I mean, Elba's still right for saying it. I will admit that the culture of automatically "cancelling" someone the second something comes out without any sort of evidence is entirely overblown, but Elba is absolutely correct that the #metoo movement, in its proper context, should not be a threat to anyone who doesn't have anything to hide. Ansari and Freeman took definite hits because of the reactionary attitudes of the 24-hour news cycle and social media in general, which already denounced them as fiends without delving deep enough into the situations, but they are most definitely outliers rather than the given norm. And it should also be said that neither man's actions are completely innocent of scrutiny; Ansari's were representative of a presumed expectancy of sex, regardless of whether or not the meeting was consensual, which speaks to a negative male outlook in regards to whether or not consent actually denotes, whereas Freeman's behavior speaks to a general workplace unprofessionalism that, in all seriousness, really shouldn't be acceptable, and while I wouldn't call him a deviant, that sort of overt familiarity can be unnerving to someone who isn't in a position of power to speak against it. Elba's saying that if a man is truly innocent, he shouldn't be afraid of the #metoo movement. Freeman and Ansari were investigated, and the full stories (as far as we know) have come out. Freeman acknowledges that his actions could've been construed in a negative way and apologized, while Ansari's opened up a different discussion entirely that should be held. There was nothing as bad as "unacceptable" about Freeman's behavior. 100% harmless. 100% opportunistic witchhunt. #MeToo has become #MeCarthyism, and THAT is unacceptable.
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Dec 19, 2018 4:02:31 GMT
Listen, I think we all agree that it's stupid and sad that Freeman and others had their careeers threatened over false allegations. No one deserves to pay the price for something they didn't do. With that said, they're the minority. The pros of the MeToo movement are still so, so much bigger than the cons. For every Ansari that's mistakenly accused of something, there's countless of famous and faceless men and women who come forward to talk about traumatic or inconvenient situations they had to go through. We saw powerful abusive men like Weinstein and Spacey facing backlash and having to answer for awful things they thought they'd gotten away with. Elba is right. The Freemans and Douglas are put in an awkward situation, but we all have to keep some things in mind: 1) they're men, and society as a whole will always give them the benefit of doubt. A woman who's accused to be abusive or just slightly mean is outright written-out of the industry. If you step out of the internet social justice bubble, that's how things work; and 2) they can prove their innocence and move on with their lives. Not to sound dramatic - I swear I have better arguments than this -, but saying MeToo is rotten or misguided because of 3 or 4 cases among dozens of others is like saying we should ban the law that says murder is wrong because some innocent people are convicted. We shouldn't abolish MeToo, we just need to be a little less sensationalist about it. When #MeToo becomes #MeCarthyism, like it has far too often, it most definitely IS rotten and misguided. And enough with the "3 or 4 cases" b.s. It's more than that...a LOT more.
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Post by pupdurcs on Dec 19, 2018 4:19:54 GMT
How do you know how many times Emmet Tills have happened? Black men for decades, if not centuries were regularly hung from trees or beaten to death because white women had little issue claiming "rape", especially if it got them out of trouble. That stuff happened on the regular. Making false accusations of sexual impropriety has cost hundreds, if not thousands of Emmet Tills their lives over the years. You got any sympathy for thousands of dead negros either? Probably not by the sounds of things. Sexual Crimes are bad and need to be punished. And I'm glad fuckers like Weinstein and Les Moonves got their come uppance. But overall, it"s a movement that can be too easily weaponized and requires checks and balances. Emmett Till was a young impoverished boy in a marginalized minority, not an exec at a film studio. The woman who accused him (who herself was pressured by those around her) had nothing to lose by accusing him. No career or reputation to be affected. No threat of millions of people online shaming her, calling her a slut or a liar, or releasing her personal information. So Emmett Till is a terrible example to begin with. Has absolutely no bearing on the allegations of the #MeToo movement or on the ones being accused. Also no one's being lynched. So numerous cases of women for centuries lying about rape or sexual improperiety to the point of getting men lynched or killed has no bearing on a movement where women are given total carte blanche to accuse/ostracise men of sexual improperiety and with just their word in many cases. Women lie or exaggerate. Men lie or exaggerate. That's just reality. That's why due process is necessary, not trial by instagram post. Also, #metoo has gone beyond Hollywood or outing overpowered studio execs, and that's part of the problem.
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Post by avnermoriarti on Dec 19, 2018 4:52:37 GMT
If only were that easy.... He's just chasing the immediate applause / approvement.
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Post by cherry68 on Dec 19, 2018 7:11:20 GMT
Unfortunately, not only men with something to hide are accused. The problem here is that media want to do the police's and courts ' job.
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Post by countjohn on Dec 19, 2018 23:11:54 GMT
Unfortunately, not only men with something to hide are accused. The problem here is that media want to do the police's and courts ' job.I think that's right. The good thing about MeToo is that it's gotten people more comfortable talking about bad things that happened to them sexually due to power in numbers specifically in regards to powerful people like Weinstein who hid what they did for so long. It doesn't mean we should stop having a legal system or automatically believe every allegation, which seems to be what some people want. Although those attitudes were around before Metoo so I wouldn't really blame it on that.
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Post by wattsnew on Dec 20, 2018 5:02:21 GMT
How do you know how many times Emmet Tills have happened? Black men for decades, if not centuries were regularly hung from trees or beaten to death because white women had little issue claiming "rape", especially if it got them out of trouble. That stuff happened on the regular. Making false accusations of sexual impropriety has cost hundreds, if not thousands of Emmet Tills their lives over the years. You got any sympathy for thousands of dead negros either? Probably not by the sounds of things. Sexual Crimes are bad and need to be punished. And I'm glad fuckers like Weinstein and Les Moonves got their come uppance. But overall, it"s a movement that can be too easily weaponized and requires checks and balances. Emmett Till was a young impoverished boy in a marginalized minority, not an exec at a film studio. The woman who accused him (who herself was pressured by those around her) had nothing to lose by accusing him. No career or reputation to be affected. No threat of millions of people online shaming her, calling her a slut or a liar, or releasing her personal information. So Emmett Till is a terrible example to begin with. Has absolutely no bearing on the allegations of the #MeToo movement or on the ones being accused. Also no one's being lynched. This. The Emmett Till comparison is mind boggling. And I'm not even going to begin with comparing the Me Too movement to McCarthyism... also anyone who uses the term "SJW" seriously should not be taken seriously.
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