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Post by wilcinema on Nov 27, 2018 19:07:27 GMT
We have the winners BEST FILM: Green Book BEST DIRECTOR: Bradley Cooper - A Star Is Born BEST ACTOR: Viggo Mortensen - Green Book BEST ACTRESS: Lady Gaga - A Star Is Born BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR: Sam Elliott - A Star Is Born BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS: Regina King - If Beale Street Could Talk BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY: First Reformed BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAY: If Beale Street Could Talk BEST ANIMATED FEATURE: The Incredibles 2 BEST DOCUMENTARY: RBG BEST FOREIGN FILM: Cold War BEST ENSEMBLE: Crazy Rich Asians BREAKTHROUGH PERFORMANCE: Thomasin McKenzie - Leave No Trace BEST DIRECTORIAL DEBUT: Bo Burnham - Eighth Grade
TOP FILMS The Ballad Of Buster Scruggs Black Panther Can You Ever Forgive Me? Eighth Grade First Reformed If Beale Street Could Talk Mary Poppins Returns A Quiet Place Roma A Star Is Born
TOP 5 FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILMS Burning Custody The Guilty Happy As Lazzaro Shoplifters
TOP 5 DOCUMENTARIES Crime + Punishment Free Solo Minding The Gap Three Identical Strangers Won't You be My Neighbour
TOP 10 INDEPENDENT FILMS The Death of Stalin Lean On Pete Leave No Trace Mid90s The Old Man And The Gun The Rider Searching Sorry To Bother You We The Animals You Were Never Really Here
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Nov 27, 2018 19:14:16 GMT
Dull.
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Post by Pavan on Nov 27, 2018 19:22:21 GMT
Is First Reformed that good?
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Post by wilcinema on Nov 27, 2018 19:28:52 GMT
Is First Reformed that good? No  |
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Post by stephen on Nov 27, 2018 19:30:45 GMT
Nothing for The Favourite, huh? Interesting . . .
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Post by mrimpossible on Nov 27, 2018 19:31:01 GMT
The Favourite shut out.
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Post by mrimpossible on Nov 27, 2018 19:31:43 GMT
Dayum Warner Bros magic showing with 3 wins.
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Post by mrimpossible on Nov 27, 2018 19:32:38 GMT
Shocked Blackkklansman wasn’t in top 10.
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Post by stephen on Nov 27, 2018 19:32:41 GMT
Dayum Warner Bros magic showing with 3 wins. Never bet against WB here. |
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Post by JangoB on Nov 27, 2018 19:33:06 GMT
Is First Reformed that good? Not quite but isn't it nice to see Paul Schrader finally win some stuff? I hope he does get his first (!) Oscar nod for the script even though the NBR win is statistically not a good sign. |
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Post by JangoB on Nov 27, 2018 19:34:27 GMT
Nothing for The Favourite, huh? Interesting . . . Well, another big Fox Searchlight was omitted last year and then it won Best Picture And they snubbed "Three Billboards" too. I guess they have some kind of a beef against Fox Searchlight. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Nov 27, 2018 19:36:05 GMT
BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY: First Reformed
Damned right (Blasphemy only intended for humor).......
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Post by thomasjerome on Nov 27, 2018 19:38:00 GMT
Happy for Schrader and Elliott
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Post by stephen on Nov 27, 2018 19:38:32 GMT
Nothing for The Favourite, huh? Interesting . . . Well, another big Fox Searchlight was omitted last year and then it won Best Picture And they snubbed "Three Billboards" too. I guess they have some kind of a beef against Fox Searchlight. I've heard that, but Can You Ever Forgive Me got into their top ten . . . perhaps an American bias? Or maybe they just don't like Lanthimos. In any case, this is far from a death knell for The Favourite, BlacKkKlansman or Vice. NBR has a middling track record of matching their top ten with the Academy's. |
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Post by jimmalone on Nov 27, 2018 19:38:43 GMT
So that means we should KNOW our first Best Picture nominee with Green Book.
Only once in the past 17 years the winner of the NBR Award was not nominated for the Oscar in the Best Picture category.
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Post by jimmalone on Nov 27, 2018 19:41:19 GMT
Well, another big Fox Searchlight was omitted last year and then it won Best Picture And they snubbed "Three Billboards" too. I guess they have some kind of a beef against Fox Searchlight. I've heard that, but Can You Ever Forgive Me got into their top ten . . . perhaps an American bias? Or maybe they just don't like Lanthimos. In any case, this is far from a death knell for The Favourite, BlacKkKlansman or Vice. NBR has a middling track record of matching their top ten with the Academy's. That's true. But on the other hand chances are pretty high that the Best Picture WINNER at the Oscars is among those 11 films nominated here. The Shape of the Water last year was the first Best Picture Winner since Lord of the Rings in 2003 not to be among the NBR Top 11 Films. |
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Post by stephen on Nov 27, 2018 19:43:39 GMT
I've heard that, but Can You Ever Forgive Me got into their top ten . . . perhaps an American bias? Or maybe they just don't like Lanthimos. In any case, this is far from a death knell for The Favourite, BlacKkKlansman or Vice. NBR has a middling track record of matching their top ten with the Academy's. That's true. But on the other hand chances are pretty high that the Best Picture WINNER at the Oscars is among those 11 films nominated here. The Shape of the Water last year was the first Best Picture Winner since Lord of the Rings in 2003 not to be among the NBR Top 11 Films. Indeed. But NBR's not the most essential precursor to have (if anything, it's historically best not to win here, as according to trends, winners here tend to miss more often than stick it out at the end). I'm certain the critics' prizes will revive these three films. |
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Post by jimmalone on Nov 27, 2018 19:47:48 GMT
That's true. But on the other hand chances are pretty high that the Best Picture WINNER at the Oscars is among those 11 films nominated here. The Shape of the Water last year was the first Best Picture Winner since Lord of the Rings in 2003 not to be among the NBR Top 11 Films. Indeed. But NBR's not the most essential precursor to have (if anything, it's historically best not to win here, as according to trends, winners here tend to miss more often than stick it out at the end). I'm certain the critics' prizes will revive these three films. That's true for the acting awards. I'm just talking about Best Film though and to win that at the Oscars it's statistically one of the most important things to show up here. Though in the other way around it's also true that for that category it is indeed important not to win the prize here. The last NBR winner which also won the Oscar was Slumdog Millionaire. |
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Post by stephen on Nov 27, 2018 19:51:56 GMT
Indeed. But NBR's not the most essential precursor to have (if anything, it's historically best not to win here, as according to trends, winners here tend to miss more often than stick it out at the end). I'm certain the critics' prizes will revive these three films. That's true for the acting awards. I'm just talking about Best Film though and to win that at the Oscars it's statistically one of the most important things to show up here. Though in the other way around it's also true that for that category it is indeed important not to win the prize here. The last NBR winner which also won the Oscar was Slumdog Millionaire. That's primarily because they're one of the few awards bodies that does top 10 lists (for both major and indie contenders), and by law of averages that usually means they're going to have seen most of the films that are getting a campaign. It's an interesting stat for sure, but I don't put a whole lot of stock in it. |
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Post by jimmalone on Nov 27, 2018 20:03:15 GMT
That's true for the acting awards. I'm just talking about Best Film though and to win that at the Oscars it's statistically one of the most important things to show up here. Though in the other way around it's also true that for that category it is indeed important not to win the prize here. The last NBR winner which also won the Oscar was Slumdog Millionaire. That's primarily because they're one of the few awards bodies that does top 10 lists (for both major and indie contenders), and by law of averages that usually means they're going to have seen most of the films that are getting a campaign. It's an interesting stat for sure, but I don't put a whole lot of stock in it. That's certainly true. Obviously films that are generally well liked will show up among such lists. But I think exactly this is a very good indicator IF a film is well liked. I've always relied on that - in my opinion often overlooked - stat, though of course it usually isn't a huge help since most of the contenders do show up here (it helped me in 2015 to pick Spotlight over The Revenant though, but didn't help in any way last year with Billboards and Shape both missing). Things and stats can change, but as of now I think our Best Picture winner is among those 11 films. And Green Book is likely to get nominated for Best Picture, but probably won't win. Those are the two only wisdoms of a certain probabilty I draw from the NBR awards. |
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Post by DeepArcher on Nov 27, 2018 20:05:48 GMT
Is First Reformed that good? Yes. |
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Post by DeepArcher on Nov 27, 2018 20:07:43 GMT
Green Book is like the NBR-est film ever, so I shoulda expected it to be big here. Can't help but roll my eyes at all three A Star is Born wins, especially Cooper for Directing, but I guess I better get used to it.
Happy for Paul, Bo, and Viggo. Congrats to Roma for ascending beyond the status of "foreign film."
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2018 20:16:11 GMT
Green Book is already starting to follow Driving Miss Daisy's path . Interesting that they went for Gaga in Best Actress rather than Breakthrough Performance.
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Post by Mattsby on Nov 27, 2018 20:24:18 GMT
Atta boy Schrader. I think he's a sure thing for the original screenplay Oscar nom - First Reformed, The Favourite, Green Book, Vice. Those are the safe bets, no? Can he get the win though.......
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Post by sirjeremy on Nov 27, 2018 20:34:20 GMT
Green Book is already starting to follow Driving Miss Daisy's path . Yes, unfortunately. Hopefully the relatively subdued box office performance so far of Green Book will slow down the awards momentum. |
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