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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2018 15:44:05 GMT
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Post by Film Socialism on Nov 13, 2018 18:16:46 GMT
bush was way way worse, and cheney by proxy was as well
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Nov 13, 2018 18:36:46 GMT
honestly no comparison. Bush and Cheney were utter savages. Trump is a dithering idiot but he hasn't done anywhere as much damage as Bush and Cheney did in the 2000s. People just have a short memory.
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Post by hugobolso1 on Nov 13, 2018 21:36:36 GMT
In fact Trump is the least bloodish American President in the last 90 years
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Post by dazed on Nov 14, 2018 1:35:15 GMT
Of course Bush/Cheney are worse. They had 6 more years to fuck shit up. If Trump served two terms, then it’d be a better comparison.
Also, people on the left that’ve recently been easy going on Bush just because he criticized Trump are laughable imo.
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Post by Joaquim on Nov 14, 2018 1:55:29 GMT
In fact Trump is the least bloodish American President in the last 90 years That’s actually Jimmy Carter. |
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Nov 14, 2018 3:25:18 GMT
Bush/Cheney are worse not because they went ahead with the Iraq War (I agree with the Iraq War) but because they completely fucked it up.
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Post by quetee on Nov 14, 2018 20:06:00 GMT
What about the quality of the movie? Any word yet?
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Post by countjohn on Nov 15, 2018 5:28:54 GMT
Bush had the misfortune of having a lot on his plate and that revealed his weaknesses in leadership. If he had been president in a stable period like the 80's or 90's he might not have been that bad. He was president in the most turbulent period in America since the late 60's.
Christ, can you imagine how Trump would respond to a crisis like 9/11 or the financial crisis? Bush didn't respond to those things particularly well, but Trump would probably respond to it 1000x worse just because he's an idiot, while Bush wasn't despite all the "dumb cowboy" jokes. If Trump doesn't end up doing as much damage as Bush it'll just be because he got lucky and didn't have to deal with as much. That's something people don't consider when evaluating presidents. It results in them being a bit unfair to the W's and James Buchanan's of the world.
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Post by hugobolso on Nov 15, 2018 16:20:08 GMT
In fact Trump is the least bloodish American President in the last 90 years That’s actually Jimmy Carter. Carter Seriously? with all the Ayattollah Jomeini and Afghanistan issue.- He could kill you with his smile I think Ford was less bloody, just because his presidency was much shorter, the bloody thirsty were Nixon and Rockeffeller.- |
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Post by Joaquim on Nov 15, 2018 17:21:10 GMT
That’s actually Jimmy Carter. Carter Seriously? with all the Ayattollah Jomeini and Afghanistan issue.- He could kill you with his smile I think Ford was less bloody, just because his presidency was much shorter, the bloody thirsty were Nixon and Rockeffeller.- Carter literally never ordered a shot fired. Only president in history who can say that. I’m not a Carter fan, plz stop making me defend him. |
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Post by Film Socialism on Nov 16, 2018 2:43:07 GMT
Bush had the misfortune of having a lot on his plate and that revealed his weaknesses in leadership. If he had been president in a stable period like the 80's or 90's he might not have been that bad. He was president in the most turbulent period in America since the late 60's. Christ, can you imagine how Trump would respond to a crisis like 9/11 or the financial crisis? Bush didn't respond to those things particularly well, but Trump would probably respond to it 1000x worse just because he's an idiot, while Bush wasn't despite all the "dumb cowboy" jokes. If Trump doesn't end up doing as much damage as Bush it'll just be because he got lucky and didn't have to deal with as much. That's something people don't consider when evaluating presidents. It results in them being a bit unfair to the W's and James Buchanan's of the world. 'stable period like the 80s or 90s' lmaoo bush is more civil than trump when it comes to day to day discourse and is certainly just as evil. i would argue that the one minuscule thing i do like about trump is that he's not quite as much of a warmonger as many neocons (or, for that matter, liberals). i cannot unfortunately say that of bush. |
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Nov 16, 2018 15:30:51 GMT
Bush had the misfortune of having a lot on his plate and that revealed his weaknesses in leadership. If he had been president in a stable period like the 80's or 90's he might not have been that bad. He was president in the most turbulent period in America since the late 60's. Christ, can you imagine how Trump would respond to a crisis like 9/11 or the financial crisis? Bush didn't respond to those things particularly well, but Trump would probably respond to it 1000x worse just because he's an idiot, while Bush wasn't despite all the "dumb cowboy" jokes. If Trump doesn't end up doing as much damage as Bush it'll just be because he got lucky and didn't have to deal with as much. That's something people don't consider when evaluating presidents. It results in them being a bit unfair to the W's and James Buchanan's of the world. 'stable period like the 80s or 90s' lmaoo bush is more civil than trump when it comes to day to day discourse and is certainly just as evil. i would argue that the one minuscule thing i do like about trump is that he's not quite as much of a warmonger as many neocons (or, for that matter, liberals). i cannot unfortunately say that of bush. If someone like Bush is evil then people like you are as well. |
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Post by Film Socialism on Nov 17, 2018 4:06:53 GMT
'stable period like the 80s or 90s' lmaoo bush is more civil than trump when it comes to day to day discourse and is certainly just as evil. i would argue that the one minuscule thing i do like about trump is that he's not quite as much of a warmonger as many neocons (or, for that matter, liberals). i cannot unfortunately say that of bush. If someone like Bush is evil then people like you are as well. i would assume most capitalists believe me to be evil, yea |
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Post by hugobolso1 on Nov 20, 2018 12:59:19 GMT
Carter Seriously? with all the Ayattollah Jomeini and Afghanistan issue.- He could kill you with his smile I think Ford was less bloody, just because his presidency was much shorter, the bloody thirsty were Nixon and Rockeffeller.- Carter literally never ordered a shot fired. Only president in history who can say that. I’m not a Carter fan, plz stop making me defend him. Any way you can kill people, or at least being responsable, by omission too.- |
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Post by mrimpossible on Nov 25, 2018 19:02:56 GMT
Trump hasn’t started an illegal war that has kills hundred of thousands yet. So yes Bush is worse right now.
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