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Post by Joaquim on Mar 16, 2023 16:53:33 GMT
Considering the one thing we do know is that Ridley isn’t gonna stick to the real history 100% even if all the real historical figures are involved, I don’t see why the roles can’t be reversed here. There’s been plenty of instances throughout history where the jealous younger brother pushes aside big bro to take power. Or maybe Keoghan’s not actually gonna be the villain if he’s playing Geta. I guess we’ll find out in due time what Ridley has planned, we’re only dealing with rumors here anyway Hear me out: make Geta and Caracalla twins. Double the Barry, double the fun. I fucking love this and considering the fact the age gap between Geta and Caracalla isn’t even a full year, it wouldn’t be the most implausible direction Ridley could go in with this
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Post by stephen on Mar 16, 2023 16:55:40 GMT
Hear me out: make Geta and Caracalla twins. Double the Barry, double the fun. I fucking love this and considering the fact the age gap between Geta and Caracalla isn’t even a full year, it wouldn’t be the most implausible direction Ridley could go in with this If we can't get double Keoghans, then get Tye Sheridan as Geta so that Barry can murder the impostor.
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Post by hugobolso on Mar 16, 2023 16:56:12 GMT
Emperor Geta was a teenage co-emperor murdered by his brother Caracalla at 22. How the hell could be the villain? He was a puppeet emperor by Syrian Empresses The Julias Considering the one thing we do know is that Ridley isn’t gonna stick to the real history 100% even if all the real historical figures are involved, I don’t see why the roles can’t be reversed here. There’s been plenty of instances throughout history where the jealous younger brother pushes aside big bro to take power. Or maybe Keoghan’s not actually gonna be the villain if he’s playing Geta. I guess we’ll find out in due time what Ridley has planned, we’re only dealing with rumors here anyway That's why I hate all the Riddley Scott historical movies. The main exception is 1492, because it's a masterpiece if we compare to the Brando Torquemada version.-
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Post by Joaquim on Mar 16, 2023 17:21:28 GMT
Considering the one thing we do know is that Ridley isn’t gonna stick to the real history 100% even if all the real historical figures are involved, I don’t see why the roles can’t be reversed here. There’s been plenty of instances throughout history where the jealous younger brother pushes aside big bro to take power. Or maybe Keoghan’s not actually gonna be the villain if he’s playing Geta. I guess we’ll find out in due time what Ridley has planned, we’re only dealing with rumors here anyway That's why I hate all the Riddley Scott historical movies. The main exception is 1492, because it's a masterpiece if we compare to the Brando Torquemada version.- Oh boohoo. Ridley’s not trying to recreate and/or tell the real history, he’s just trying to create an entertaining story set during those times using a lot of the real historical figures that fit in with the story he wants to tell. That’s why I don’t criticize Gladiator for its historical inaccuracies the way I would something like HBO’s Rome. I would love to see more fully accurate depictions of Roman history but I still think what Ridley’s doing is great
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Post by hugobolso on Mar 16, 2023 17:43:13 GMT
That's why I hate all the Riddley Scott historical movies. The main exception is 1492, because it's a masterpiece if we compare to the Brando Torquemada version.- Oh boohoo. Ridley’s not trying to recreate and/or tell the real history, he’s just trying to create an entertaining story set during those times using a lot of the real historical figures that fit in with the story he wants to tell. That’s why I don’t criticize Gladiator for its historical inaccuracies the way I would something like HBO’s Rome. I would love to see more fully accurate depictions of Roman history but I still think what Ridley’s doing is great But I love historical movies!!! I don't demand an extreme rigurosity. But for example in Kingdom of Heaven R.S. deleted all the historical important key femele players, except Sybilla.- Thats an stupid hybrid between Queen Sibylla her stepmother (Maria Comnena) and her stepsister (Isabella), and probably a couple of aunts. I could understand this in order to make a more simple plot, but at the end invisiblized the femele role in the Cruzades. Women were very important during all the Jerusalem Kingdom.-
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Post by sirchuck23 on Mar 17, 2023 16:16:47 GMT
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Post by Pavan on Mar 17, 2023 16:19:16 GMT
Now we're talking.
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Post by futuretrunks on Mar 17, 2023 16:20:30 GMT
Interesting.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Mar 17, 2023 16:24:52 GMT
First real "non lead character" role, he's had since Antwone Fisher, which was obviously his directorial debut. Great to see him back with one of the Scott's again.
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Post by stephen on Mar 17, 2023 16:27:35 GMT
Oh now, this is interesting. This is interesting.
Are we getting Denzel in the Oliver Reed-esque crotchety mentor role?
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Post by stephen on Mar 17, 2023 16:33:32 GMT
I saw an interview with Djimon Hounsou this morning and I was thinking that he'd be a great pick to return as a mentor-type for Lucius, maybe where he's found his happiness in retirement but comes out to honor Maximus's wishes and to help focus the lad in his quest. But clearly something about this appealed to Washington, enough for him to take on a supporting role, which he very rarely does.
This could be major.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Mar 17, 2023 16:51:07 GMT
I saw an interview with Djimon Hounsou this morning and I was thinking that he'd be a great pick to return as a mentor-type for Lucius, maybe where he's found his happiness in retirement but comes out to honor Maximus's wishes and to help focus the lad in his quest. But clearly something about this appealed to Washington, enough for him to take on a supporting role, which he very rarely does. This could be major. Denzel coming for his 10th Oscar nomination in 2024 and tying Laurence Olivier:
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Post by Pasquale on Mar 17, 2023 17:22:38 GMT
It's nuts.
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Post by franklin on Mar 17, 2023 17:52:32 GMT
Deadline didn't mention Barry Keoghan, is he still involved??
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Post by Joaquim on Mar 17, 2023 18:57:52 GMT
Denzel HAS to be playing Septimius Severus, Caracalla and Geta’s father. That’s dream casting right there. If this is a massive success Ridley needs to give us a prequel next, Septimius Severus is more than worthy of his own biopic
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Post by franklin on Mar 17, 2023 19:26:29 GMT
What?? But Denzel playing Barry's father doesn't make any sense!
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Post by Joaquim on Mar 17, 2023 19:58:10 GMT
What?? But Denzel playing Barry's father doesn't make any sense! Septimius Severus was black, he married and had kids with a direct descendant of Antony and Cleopatra who were white. So yes, in this scenario Denzel can be Keoghan’s father
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Post by wattsnew on Mar 17, 2023 22:21:56 GMT
This has box office bomb written all over it. Ridley Scott needs for retire already!
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Post by futuretrunks on Mar 17, 2023 22:51:58 GMT
What?? But Denzel playing Barry's father doesn't make any sense! Septimius Severus was black, he married and had kids with a direct descendant of Antony and Cleopatra who were white. So yes, in this scenario Denzel can be Keoghan’s father You'd have to do some creative makeup and hair styling. As is, I don't think Keoghan can pass as a biological son of Denzel, even with the whitest possible mother.
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Post by futuretrunks on Mar 17, 2023 23:24:28 GMT
Where is pupdurcs, by the way? This is pretty good Denzel news.
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Post by Joaquim on Mar 17, 2023 23:35:54 GMT
Septimius Severus was black, he married and had kids with a direct descendant of Antony and Cleopatra who were white. So yes, in this scenario Denzel can be Keoghan’s father You'd have to do some creative makeup and hair styling. As is, I don't think Keoghan can pass as a biological son of Denzel, even with the whitest possible mother. Sure the makeup team would have work to do but it can be done. Geta’s face is scrubbed out here because Caracalla damned his memory after [allegedly] ordering his assassination but the look isn’t too far off from his brother’s….especially if stephen’s idea plays out and Ridley makes them twins in the film for double Keoghan
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Post by quetee on Mar 18, 2023 0:17:29 GMT
I think he would be okay as long as they cast a biracial daughter. I would go with Thandie Newton's daughter.
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Post by quetee on Mar 18, 2023 0:19:34 GMT
What?? But Denzel playing Barry's father doesn't make any sense! There are plenty of biracial people who look white or ones that don't even look like they have a white parent. Laura Harrier does not look like she has a white father.
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Post by futuretrunks on Mar 18, 2023 1:02:57 GMT
What?? But Denzel playing Barry's father doesn't make any sense! There are plenty of biracial people who look white or ones that don't even look like they have a white parent. Laura Harrier does not look like she has a white father. She's not that dark though. If Lupita had an Irish father with blue eyes and pale skin, I'd question it.
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Post by quetee on Mar 18, 2023 1:07:32 GMT
There are plenty of biracial people who look white or ones that don't even look like they have a white parent. Laura Harrier does not look like she has a white father. She's not that dark though. If Lupita had an Irish father with blue eyes and pale skin, I'd question it. To have a white parent, she is. Plenty of black women lighter than her with two black parents. I'm lighter.
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