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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 6, 2023 20:08:15 GMT
I dunno - I like Aftersun and liked him in it - but that didn't make my top 10 and he doesn't make my top performances - and this wasn't a great year - his acting is severely low key in a non-movie star way so far. I mean from what I've seen of him he'd be a blank hole at the center of an epic like this apparently is........
On the other hand he has some bigger movies coming up next where I think he's more pronounced in a movie star way, so we'll see.......
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Feb 3, 2023 19:59:14 GMT
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Feb 3, 2023 20:52:05 GMT
Can we get Denis on it instead?
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Post by stephen on Feb 3, 2023 20:54:14 GMT
Can we get Denis on it instead? I thought you meant Claire Denis and now I want to see that movie.
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Feb 3, 2023 20:56:41 GMT
Can we get Denis on it instead? I thought you meant Claire Denis and now I want to see that movie. I also wouldn’t mind that, but I’d rather Ridley not direct his own sequels. That’s how we get Alien: Covenant
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Post by countjohn on Feb 4, 2023 3:50:01 GMT
The only of the Gladiator follow up ideas that ever sounded interesting to me was a prequel about Maximus in the war which obviously would have needed to be done relatively quickly after the first Gladiator so Crowe wouldn't have aged.
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Post by Joaquim on Feb 4, 2023 4:06:47 GMT
If this is taking place about 20 years after the events of Gladiator, that’s around the time that Caracalla becomes co-emperor with his brother until he may or may not have ordered his assassination. Ridley about to deliver yet another masterclass
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Post by speeders on Feb 5, 2023 20:29:31 GMT
I bet Simona Tabasco (or at least someone from White Lotus S2) will be cast in this.
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Post by hugobolso on Feb 6, 2023 2:28:34 GMT
Why trying to reinventing story again.
Lucilla child died when he was a kid. Gladiator was only a remake of The Fallen of The Roman Empire.
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Post by mhynson27 on Mar 16, 2023 0:05:53 GMT
Big grain of salt rumour: Barry Keoghan is the villain in this
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Post by stephen on Mar 16, 2023 0:09:29 GMT
Big grain of salt rumour: Barry Keoghan is the villain in this This just in: every movie to have Barry Keoghan in it. It's law.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 16, 2023 0:16:14 GMT
Big grain of salt rumour: Barry Keoghan is the villain in this Isn't he the villain in Saltburn also? That's quite a 1-2 punch if so......in the same year
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Post by futuretrunks on Mar 16, 2023 0:17:09 GMT
I dunno - I like Aftersun and liked him in it - but that didn't make my top 10 and he doesn't make my top performances - and this wasn't a great year - his acting is severely low key in a non-movie star way so far. I mean from what I've seen of him he'd be a blank hole at the center of an epic like this apparently is........ On the other hand he has some bigger movies coming up next where I think he's more pronounced in a movie star way, so we'll see....... I agree about Aftersun and his performance in it. I think he's deeper in Normal People.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Mar 16, 2023 0:20:40 GMT
I'm sure it'll be 100% historically accurate and not contain any factually untrue depictions of slavery while still being a cool historical actioner we all can enjoy.
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Post by Joaquim on Mar 16, 2023 1:17:18 GMT
Big grain of salt rumour: Barry Keoghan is the villain in this BARRY KEOGHAN AS A MAD EMPEROR YES FUCKING PLEASE Like I said earlier in the thread if this is taking place roughly 20 years after the original like some reports seem to indicate, then Keoghan could be playing the emperor Caracalla or a character based on him Or maybe not. Commodus’s death at the end of Gladiator probably changes the whole timeline of Roman history in Ridley’s universe but who knows what the man has planned Regardless, if Keoghan’s playing a mad emperor you can immediately consider him a best supporting actor front runner
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Post by stephen on Mar 16, 2023 1:21:43 GMT
Big grain of salt rumour: Barry Keoghan is the villain in this BARRY KEOGHAN AS A MAD EMPEROR YES FUCKING PLEASE Like I said earlier in the thread if this is taking place roughly 20 years after the original like some reports seem to indicate, then Keoghan could be playing the emperor Caracalla or a character based on him Or maybe not. Commodus’s death at the end of Gladiator probably changes the whole timeline of Roman history in Ridley’s universe but who knows what the man has planned Regardless, if Keoghan’s playing a mad emperor you can immediately consider him a best supporting actor front runner I would hope it isn't another evil emperor this time around. In fact, flip it and reverse it -- give us an evil gladiator coming after Lucius Verus.
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Post by Joaquim on Mar 16, 2023 2:26:53 GMT
BARRY KEOGHAN AS A MAD EMPEROR YES FUCKING PLEASE Like I said earlier in the thread if this is taking place roughly 20 years after the original like some reports seem to indicate, then Keoghan could be playing the emperor Caracalla or a character based on him Or maybe not. Commodus’s death at the end of Gladiator probably changes the whole timeline of Roman history in Ridley’s universe but who knows what the man has planned Regardless, if Keoghan’s playing a mad emperor you can immediately consider him a best supporting actor front runner I would hope it isn't another evil emperor this time around. In fact, flip it and reverse it -- give us an evil gladiator coming after Lucius Verus. I like this idea but my thing is that if the Keoghan rumor is true, a gladiator isn’t exactly the first type of character I envision him playing in a Roman setting. I think he would absolutely kill it as a mad emperor though. I could still see him as a secondary character in the evil gladiator story. Someone else steps in to play the gladiator and maybe their background is that they’re a praetorian or something working for Keoghan’s emperor I think it would be cool too to see something like Lucius following in Maximus’s footsteps and becoming a general in the legions. The Crisis of the Third Century hits and he uses his position as the leader of a few legions to take the empire for himself. All it took was one solid victory against the barbarians for any respectable enough general during this time period to stake his claim for title of emperor and start a civil war, and there just needs to be more portrayals of the Crisis of the Third Century in film. I know this goes contrary to Gladiator’s ending where the hope was to see the republic restored but let’s face it the republic was never going to be restored even in Ridley’s alternate universe
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Post by stephen on Mar 16, 2023 2:32:52 GMT
I would hope it isn't another evil emperor this time around. In fact, flip it and reverse it -- give us an evil gladiator coming after Lucius Verus. I like this idea but my thing is that if the Keoghan rumor is true, a gladiator isn’t exactly the first type of character I envision him playing in a Roman setting. I think he would absolutely kill it as a mad emperor though. I could still see him as a secondary character in the evil gladiator story. Someone else steps in to play the gladiator and maybe their background is that they’re a praetorian or something working for Keoghan’s emperor I think it would be cool too to see something like Lucius following in Maximus’s footsteps and becoming a general in the legions. The Crisis of the Third Century hits and he uses his position as the leader of a few legions to take the empire for himself. All it took was one solid victory against the barbarians for any respectable enough general during this time period to stake his claim for title of emperor and start a civil war, and there just needs to be more portrayals of the Crisis of the Third Century in film. I know this goes contrary to Gladiator’s ending where the hope was to see the republic restored but let’s face it the republic was never going to be restored even in Ridley’s alternate universe Maybe instead of a mad emperor, Keoghan is a scheming senator. I just don't really want to see Commodus 2.0, even though we know he'd absolutely crush it. And it would be a threat to Maximus's legacy that Lucius would be seeking to thwart, which puts them at odds. Hell, you can even do a bit of a Ben-Hur/Messala vibe with the story and make them lifelong friends/blood brothers whose relationship goes sour.
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Post by Joaquim on Mar 16, 2023 3:17:30 GMT
I like this idea but my thing is that if the Keoghan rumor is true, a gladiator isn’t exactly the first type of character I envision him playing in a Roman setting. I think he would absolutely kill it as a mad emperor though. I could still see him as a secondary character in the evil gladiator story. Someone else steps in to play the gladiator and maybe their background is that they’re a praetorian or something working for Keoghan’s emperor I think it would be cool too to see something like Lucius following in Maximus’s footsteps and becoming a general in the legions. The Crisis of the Third Century hits and he uses his position as the leader of a few legions to take the empire for himself. All it took was one solid victory against the barbarians for any respectable enough general during this time period to stake his claim for title of emperor and start a civil war, and there just needs to be more portrayals of the Crisis of the Third Century in film. I know this goes contrary to Gladiator’s ending where the hope was to see the republic restored but let’s face it the republic was never going to be restored even in Ridley’s alternate universe Maybe instead of a mad emperor, Keoghan is a scheming senator. I just don't really want to see Commodus 2.0, even though we know he'd absolutely crush it. And it would be a threat to Maximus's legacy that Lucius would be seeking to thwart, which puts them at odds. Hell, you can even do a bit of a Ben-Hur/Messala vibe with the story and make them lifelong friends/blood brothers whose relationship goes sour. Oh yea, scheming senator during the republic era was the second role I envision for him after mad emperor, or maybe even as a Ricimer-like puppet master behind the revolving door of emperors if it were set during the late empire. I’m just itching to see what Keoghan could do in a Roman setting man
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Post by mhynson27 on Mar 16, 2023 4:32:11 GMT
Big grain of salt rumour: Barry Keoghan is the villain in this Isn't he the villain in Saltburn also? That's quite a 1-2 punch if so......in the same year He's the lead in Saltburn, though he may still be quite villainous. I doubt Gladiator 2 comes out this year.
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Post by mhynson27 on Mar 16, 2023 5:56:34 GMT
Keoghan seemingly confirmed by Production Weekly.
Apparantley he's Emperor Geta.
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Post by Joaquim on Mar 16, 2023 12:40:34 GMT
Keoghan seemingly confirmed by Production Weekly. Apparantley he's Emperor Geta. That’s Caracalla’s brother/co-emperor that may or may not have been assassinated on Caracalla’s orders in order to become sole emperor so it sounds like I could be on the right track in terms of where the story’s going (spoilers for those of you who aren’t history dorks, sorry). I’d rather see Keoghan play Caracalla but I’m sure he’ll still deliver. Now the question is, who plays Caracalla? That is, if Caracalla is even involved in the story. Who knows how much Ridley is gonna fuck around with the history
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Post by hugobolso on Mar 16, 2023 12:57:35 GMT
Keoghan seemingly confirmed by Production Weekly. Apparantley he's Emperor Geta. That’s Caracalla’s brother/co-emperor that may or may not have been assassinated on Caracalla’s orders in order to become sole emperor so it sounds like I could be on the right track in terms of where the story’s going (spoilers for those of you who aren’t history dorks, sorry). I’d rather see Keoghan play Caracalla but I’m sure he’ll still deliver. Now the question is, who plays Caracalla? That is, if Caracalla is even involved in the story. Who knows how much Ridley is gonna fuck around with the history Emperor Geta was a teenage co-emperor murdered by his brother Caracalla at 22. How the hell could be the villain? He was a puppeet emperor by Syrian Empresses The Julias
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Post by Joaquim on Mar 16, 2023 16:45:43 GMT
That’s Caracalla’s brother/co-emperor that may or may not have been assassinated on Caracalla’s orders in order to become sole emperor so it sounds like I could be on the right track in terms of where the story’s going (spoilers for those of you who aren’t history dorks, sorry). I’d rather see Keoghan play Caracalla but I’m sure he’ll still deliver. Now the question is, who plays Caracalla? That is, if Caracalla is even involved in the story. Who knows how much Ridley is gonna fuck around with the history Emperor Geta was a teenage co-emperor murdered by his brother Caracalla at 22. How the hell could be the villain? He was a puppeet emperor by Syrian Empresses The Julias Considering the one thing we do know is that Ridley isn’t gonna stick to the real history 100% even if all the real historical figures are involved, I don’t see why the roles can’t be reversed here. There’s been plenty of instances throughout history where the jealous younger brother pushes aside big bro to take power. Or maybe Keoghan’s not actually gonna be the villain if he’s playing Geta. I guess we’ll find out in due time what Ridley has planned, we’re only dealing with rumors here anyway
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Post by stephen on Mar 16, 2023 16:48:15 GMT
Emperor Geta was a teenage co-emperor murdered by his brother Caracalla at 22. How the hell could be the villain? He was a puppeet emperor by Syrian Empresses The Julias Considering the one thing we do know is that Ridley isn’t gonna stick to the real history 100% even if all the real historical figures are involved, I don’t see why the roles can’t be reversed here. There’s been plenty of instances throughout history where the jealous younger brother pushes aside big bro to take power. Or maybe Keoghan’s not actually gonna be the villain if he’s playing Geta. I guess we’ll find out in due time what Ridley has planned, we’re only dealing with rumors here anyway Hear me out: make Geta and Caracalla twins. Double the Barry, double the fun.
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