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Post by DeepArcher on Oct 25, 2018 23:42:31 GMT
Jesse James was VERY close to making it. It was shy of just two points, and among the scores that didn't reach the Top 50 it was the one with the most mentions (5). Damn, that might make it even more heartbreaking. Glad to know I wasn't the only one supporting it, though. |
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Post by countjohn on Oct 25, 2018 23:57:00 GMT
With a few exceptions there aren't too many surprises here, namely Phantom Thread being so high and Superman making it. When I first saw the list I thought that was primarily due to me since I had it in the top ten, but someone else had it at no. 3 apparently. It's not like it's an all time great movie or anything, but the score is spectacular even beyond the main theme and enhances everything about it. The scene where Brando has to send baby Superman away is one of the best pieces of score Williams has written in his entire career. I believe I had it as the second highest Williams score on my list behind Schindler's List.
Good to see Chinatown and Gone With the Wind make it too.
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Post by wilcinema on Oct 25, 2018 23:57:35 GMT
Terrific work, Wil. I can't say I'm entirely thrilled at the order of some of these, but very pleased to see four of my top five in the running (Cliff was robbed). I'm glad you put Cloud Atlas high on your list, it made me want to rewatch it and I finally loved it, and the score is amazing, so I voted for it too. |
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Post by wilcinema on Oct 25, 2018 23:59:00 GMT
With a few exceptions there aren't too many surprises here, namely Phantom Thread being so high and Superman making it. When I first saw the list I thought that was primarily due to me since I had it in the top ten, but someone else had it at no. 3 apparently. It's not like it's an all time great score or anything, but the score is spectacular even beyond the main theme and enhances everything about it. The scene where Brando has to send baby Superman away is one of the best pieces of score Williams has written in his entire career. I believe I had it as the second highest Williams score on my list behind Schindler's List. Good to see Chinatown and Gone With the Wind make it too. For a couple of weeks, Superman was actually in the Top 5. |
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Post by Sharbs on Oct 26, 2018 0:24:00 GMT
Thanks wilcinema for putting in the time !
Now some thoughts:
-Not a single animated film was featured here. We're there any that were close?
-Anyone else have their #1 snubbed? because Giacchino's score for The Incredibles is my favorite score and it's really not close.
-If Le Notti Bianche were more prevalent here I'd imagine it would've made an appearance.
-Love Blade Runner's placement
-Again thought Fargo, Taxi Driver would be top-20 easily, but glad they made it.
-Titanic should be top-10
-Love Phantom Thread here!!!!
-As far a as Cliff goes did most people vote for Drive because I think that's his comfortably his 3rd best Refn collaboration
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Post by wilcinema on Oct 26, 2018 0:46:26 GMT
Thanks wilcinema for putting in the time ! Now some thoughts: -Not a single animated film was featured here. We're there any that were close? -Anyone else have their #1 snubbed? because Giacchino's score for The Incredibles is my favorite score and it's really not close. -If Le Notti Bianche were more prevalent here I'd imagine it would've made an appearance. -Love Blade Runner's placement -Again thought Fargo, Taxi Driver would be top-20 easily, but glad they made it. -Titanic should be top-10 -Love Phantom Thread here!!!! -As far a as Cliff goes did most people vote for Drive because I think that's his comfortably his 3rd best Refn collaboration - The closest was The Lion King (37 points), closely followed by Spirited Away (35 points).
- Mine too (Amarcord), and the other #1s that were snubbed were The Last Temptation of Christ, Doctor Zhivago and The Fifth Element.
- Martinez had a few of his works mentioned (Drive, Only God Forgives), but it was The Neon Demon that was the closest of the three. It wasn't really close in absolute terms (it was over 20 points away from the Top 50) but it was the best scorer of the three.
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Post by ingmarhepburn on Oct 26, 2018 2:16:55 GMT
Only ten of my 25 scores made it into the final list, but I'm generally pleased with the results. It's a shame that there's no Sakamoto, but I can't say I'm surprised. No "Straight Story" also hurts a bit, but I'm so glad that Morricone got so many mentions! He really is God Almighty  Excellent work, wilcinema! Thanks again for doing this. |
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Post by chris3 on Oct 26, 2018 2:37:04 GMT
Thanks for the great presentation. Loved the bits of trivia. Shocked that Back to the Future missed the cut, and deeply saddened that Bram Stoker's Dracula was ignored. Also, I think the biggest welcome surprise of the night was Phantom Thread making the top ten. Well done.
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Post by Joaquim on Oct 26, 2018 2:39:24 GMT
#15 made me cream my pants. Inspired choice. I'm guessing you're the one who had it at #3?
I had it one spot lower at 4.
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Post by Joaquim on Oct 26, 2018 2:40:18 GMT
#12 PsychoComposer: Bernard HerrmannPoints: 133 Number of ballots: 10 Highest ranking: #2 on 1 ballot Psycho - SuiteTrivia: Director Alfred Hitchcock was so pleased with the score written by Bernard Herrmann that he doubled the composer's salary to $34,501. Hitchcock later said, "33% of the effect of Psycho was due to the music." This is the exact spot it placed on my ballot. So yea, perfect placement. |
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Post by Joaquim on Oct 26, 2018 2:41:38 GMT
#7 Star Wars: A New HopeComposer: John WilliamsPoints: 143 Number of ballots: 9 Highest ranking: #1 on 1 ballot Star Wars: A New Hope - Main ThemeTrivia: George Lucas planned to score the film with existing classical music like Stanley Kubrick had done on 2001: A Space Odyssey, before Steven Spielberg introduced him to composer John Williams. Lucas and Williams agreed on a classical 19th-century Romantic music style with liberal use of leitmotif for the score. Since the movie would show worlds never seen before, the music had to serve as an "emotional anchor" for the audience to relate. Again, perfect placement. |
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Post by stephen on Oct 26, 2018 3:01:38 GMT
#15 made me cream my pants. Inspired choice. I'm guessing you're the one who had it at #3?
I had it one spot lower at 4.
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Post by wilcinema on Oct 26, 2018 7:06:33 GMT
Thanks for the great presentation. Loved the bits of trivia. Shocked that Back to the Future missed the cut, and deeply saddened that Bram Stoker's Dracula was ignored. Also, I think the biggest welcome surprise of the night was Phantom Thread making the top ten. Well done. They were super super close, both of them. They missed respectively by 1 and 2 points. |
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Oct 26, 2018 10:24:05 GMT
Really happy to see Jurassic Park actually make the Top 5, as we should always be happy when our #1 choice hits the Top 5. My #1 choice for actor didn't make the actors poll, and my #1 choice for director only scraped into that one.
Also, delighted to see my #2 pick Halloween almost make the Top 10. Interesting to see the immediacy of Phantom Thread hitting the Top 10. It was my #25 and I look forward to seeing how it ages. Pleasant surprise of the poll was the high finishes for Superman and Fury Road, which were my #11 & #9 respectively. Disappointments have to be no Burbs, Poltergeist & Return to Oz. Great job wilcinema |
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Post by wilcinema on Oct 26, 2018 10:51:23 GMT
Last few stats.
Composers that appeared in the Top 50, and their overall total point score:
John Williams: 9 scores - 834 total points
Ennio Morricone: 6 scores - 740 total points
Bernard Herrmann: 3 scores - 327 total points
Hans Zimmer: 3 scores - 250 total points
Jonny Greenwood: 2 scores - 235 total points
James Horner: 2 scores - 141 total points
Clint Mansell: 2 scores - 95 total points
Howard Shore: 1 score - 212 total points
Vangelis: 1 score - 180 total points
Nino Rota: 1 score - 139 total points
Maurice Jarre: 1 score - 134 total points
John Carpenter: 1 score - 125 total points
Junkie XL: 1 score - 105 total points
Max Steiner: 1 score - 87 total points
Mica Levi: 1 score - 84 total points
Trevor Jones and Randy Edelman: 1 score - 76 total points
Elmer Bernstein: 1 score - 74 total points
Goblin: 1 score - 71 total points
Jerry Goldsmith: 1 score - 71 total points
Dario Marianelli: 1 score - 66 total points
Bruce Smeaton: 1 score - 64 total points
Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross: 1 score - total 58 points
Angelo Badalamenti: 1 score - 57 total points
Philip Glass: 1 score - 56 total points
Thomas Newman: 1 score - 54 total points
Carter Burwell: 1 score - 52 total points
Robert and Richard Sherman: 1 score - 52 total points
Bill Conti: 1 score - 50 total points
Danny Elfman: 1 score - 50 total points
Tom Tykwer, Johnny Klimet and Reinhold Heil: 1 score - 49 total points
Anton Karas: 1 score - 49 total points
Now the poll is really over. Thank you all for participating and commenting! See you at the next poll - I have a couple things in mind.
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Post by pacinoyes on Oct 26, 2018 12:09:59 GMT
Romeo and Juliet (1968) is missing (?!?) - like that's pretty major, that's a lot of peoples favorite in my real life......
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Post by jimmalone on Oct 26, 2018 13:20:15 GMT
Well, I had "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly" and "Once Upon a time in the West" as #1 and #2 and "Lord of the Rings" pretty high as well, so can't complain with the outcome. Glad to see I'm not the only one who loves Morricone. Hans Zimmer should have made more appearances though. Gladiator really should have made this list. Thanks wilcinema for doing this. Great work. |
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Post by jimmalone on Oct 26, 2018 13:37:12 GMT
Kinda bummed at the lack of Korngold... And I just realized that Chariots of Fire didn't make it either.  Chariots of Fire is such a strange case for me. I love the score itsself, but feel that aside from the beginning it isn't really used that well in the film. This is one thing I judge about scores as well so it didn't make my list here. |
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Post by Sharbs on Oct 26, 2018 14:24:39 GMT
Romeo and Juliet (1968) is missing (?!?) - like that's pretty major, that's a lot of peoples favorite in my real life...... in my top-10ish. 1 of 3 Rota's in my top 15ish |
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Post by Pavan on Oct 26, 2018 14:41:46 GMT
Morricone rules  Phantom Thread in top 10? that too above the likes of The Thin Red Line, Psycho and Empire Strikes Back?  That's my only complaint. Good work wilcinema |
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Post by wilcinema on Oct 26, 2018 17:12:53 GMT
Romeo and Juliet (1968) is missing (?!?) - like that's pretty major, that's a lot of peoples favorite in my real life...... Rota in general has been surprisingly "ignored", given his status. I was the only one to vote for Amarcord and 8 E Mezzo, and then a few points for Romeo And Juliet, Il Gattopardo and Le Notti Bianche, but nothing really close to making the cut. The Godfather of course was a whole different matter but that was expected. |
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Post by idioticbunny on Oct 27, 2018 1:29:52 GMT
I am so fucking thankful that Star Wars or E.T. didn't top the list like the way these polls ALWAYS go. Such a breath of fresh air to know there are those who feel the brilliance of Blade Runner, Vertigo, and Once Upon a Time in the West as much as me. And I ain't even mad that Lord of the Rings is tops. It made my list, though I wouldn't put it #1 it's more of a musical journey than most Williams stuff which is too theme-heavy to really stand my stand-alone test personally (I realize this sounds harsh toward Williams, but I actually admire a lot of his work just frustrating when he always wins these things). This list is a breath of fresh air for sure. Just a shame that Goldsmith only placed once and so low (that score was #3 on my list too) and that Taxi Driver, The Fountain, Atonement, and Suspiria were so low as well. But ain't mad because they still made the list. Only bad things I can truly say are Phantom Thread and Mad Max: Fury Road being way too high. Love them both (maybe the latter much less), but what can ya do with recency bias ya know? Sad The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Road to Perdition, Amelie, or The Umbrellas of Cherbourg didn't place, though. Any idea where they fell wilcinema ? |
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Post by wilcinema on Oct 27, 2018 8:45:26 GMT
Sad The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Road to Perdition, Amelie, or The Umbrellas of Cherbourg didn't place, though. Any idea where they fell wilcinema ? Amélie was #52, just 1 point away from making into the list.
Road to Perdition was #57, 8 points away from the Top 50.
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button was #73, while The Umbrellas of Cherbourg was #119.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Oct 31, 2018 7:30:58 GMT
wow I can't believe I completely missed this.  Some great choices here. Can't believe Shore pulled it out but I'm so happy he did. LOTR's score is indescribably beautiful. My all-time favorite now and forever. Love that Once Upon a Time in the West placed so highly too. Morricone's most affecting work. "Jill's Theme" is rapturous. Thanks, wilcinema for making it happen! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2018 18:12:43 GMT
I'm glad Ennio Morricone was second in points. Thank you, wilcinema. Nice job!!  |
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