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Post by tastytomatoes on Feb 26, 2017 4:45:51 GMT
This is tough.......hmm
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Feb 26, 2017 6:53:43 GMT
Oldman.
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Post by Kirk-Picard on Feb 26, 2017 11:42:33 GMT
I find them both overrated but if I'm forced to choose I'll pick Oldman
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Feb 26, 2017 22:50:19 GMT
DDL is sooo much better at picking roles. Oldman is talented but a lot of the projects he attaches himself to are so poorly written that his performances come off as shallow caricatures. All of DDL's characters feel totally lived in and inhabited. They feel transformational, not just thrown on like an outfit to be worn.
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Feb 27, 2017 12:46:27 GMT
Day-Lewis
The highs are so much higher.
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Post by cheesecake on Feb 27, 2017 18:13:52 GMT
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Post by tastytomatoes on Feb 28, 2017 10:58:26 GMT
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Feb 28, 2017 19:47:05 GMT
DDL
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Post by spiralstatic on Mar 3, 2017 20:56:28 GMT
I have to be honest. These are the two actors who I just can't get why everyone finds them SO great. They are often so OTT that I don't feel any genuine emotion from their work at all. Of course, they work well in certain roles, but I've disliked them both in more things than I've liked them in to be honest. I prefer Oldman though I guess.
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Post by tastytomatoes on Mar 6, 2017 15:57:24 GMT
I have to be honest. These are the two actors who I just can't get why everyone finds them SO great. They are often so OTT that I don't feel any genuine emotion from their work at all. Of course, they work well in certain roles, but I've disliked them both in more things than I've liked them in to be honest. I prefer Oldman though I guess. Which films did you dislike them in? Just curious. Anyway I believe that Oldman is rather underrated. With a career that begins in mid 80s, he has one oscar nomination, no globes recognition and a total of 8 acting award wins for his entire career...
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Post by spiralstatic on Mar 6, 2017 18:52:13 GMT
I have to be honest. These are the two actors who I just can't get why everyone finds them SO great. They are often so OTT that I don't feel any genuine emotion from their work at all. Of course, they work well in certain roles, but I've disliked them both in more things than I've liked them in to be honest. I prefer Oldman though I guess. Which films did you dislike them in? Just curious. Anyway I believe that Oldman is rather underrated. With a career that begins in mid 80s, he has one oscar nomination, no globes recognition and a total of 8 acting award wins for his entire career... With Oldman it was mainly Immortal Beloved that got me. Music is my first (and still by biggest) love. I'd been lead to believe Oldman was brilliant in it and I was completely predisposed to love the film, but I felt so little from it, particularly from Oldman's performance. I haven't seen a great deal of his work though so I could easily change my mind! I wasn't a big fan of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, but not due to Gary - I didn't enjoy the film. I like him in Harry Potter, but I don't imagine that's the epitome of his acting career! What roles would you recommend I watch? I don't think I have seen Gary in anything else particularly notable, other than smaller roles. Really it is Immortal Beloved that really bothered me. Daniel Day Lewis I actually hate his performance in There Will Be Blood (he was SO over the top I had an utterly different impression about where his character and the whole film was going which was apparently so different to what actually happened that I was left with a disconnect that was just ludicrous so I felt nothing from the film other than bemusement. Granted, I was about 18 when I saw the film. It may be different were I to rewatch now, but I'd struggle to make myself rewatch that film. I have never more than that time felt a film was "Emperor's New Clothes. I guess I must be wrong as many respected people [almost everyone] love it. But I still felt that way) and again I felt he was overacting in The Last of the Mohicans. There it was less bothersome - more that I understood I ought to be feeling moved at some points, but I just felt nothing at all. I couldn't connect with these characters emotionally. They seemed to be formed from the outside and I couldn't feel anything from within. I like DDL a lot in Gangs of New York. There, a big, OTT characterisation is fitting. They're the only DDL films I have seen. Well, I've seen A Room with a View too but I can't even recall DDL from it. I must have watched it before I knew who he was.
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Post by tastytomatoes on Mar 7, 2017 10:16:20 GMT
Which films did you dislike them in? Just curious. Anyway I believe that Oldman is rather underrated. With a career that begins in mid 80s, he has one oscar nomination, no globes recognition and a total of 8 acting award wins for his entire career... With Oldman it was mainly Immortal Beloved that got me. Music is my first (and still by biggest) love. I'd been lead to believe Oldman was brilliant in it and I was completely predisposed to love the film, but I felt so little from it, particularly from Oldman's performance. I haven't seen a great deal of his work though so I could easily change my mind! I wasn't a big fan of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, but not due to Gary - I didn't enjoy the film. I like him in Harry Potter, but I don't imagine that's the epitome of his acting career! What roles would you recommend I watch? I don't think I have seen Gary in anything else particularly notable, other than smaller roles. Really it is Immortal Beloved that really bothered me. Of what I have seen I suggest Léon: The Professional and the Fifth element, and a majority are earlier works which I have yet to see: Sid and Nancy, True Romance, JFK, Bram Stoker's Dracula,etc. I also like how he transformed into character in Harry Potter and the Dark knight trilogy. I see Daniel Day-Lewis in There Will Be Blood's "overacting" as a part of the character, which for me is portrayed quite convincingly
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Post by spiralstatic on Mar 7, 2017 16:36:51 GMT
I see Daniel Day-Lewis in There Will Be Blood's "overacting" as a part of the character, which for me is portrayed quite convincingly Thanks! I have seen The Fifth Element actually, but in the years before I knew who Gary Oldman was. I was pretty young so I can't really remember anything about it. I should rewatch. I've had Léon for ages, meaning to get around to watching it so I must give it a go sometime. I saw The Dark Knight years ago too, but again, don't even remember Gary in it. I guess you could use that in a positive way too (implying transformative-ness)!?! Thank you again for the recommendations.
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Post by tastytomatoes on Mar 8, 2017 9:11:32 GMT
I see Daniel Day-Lewis in There Will Be Blood's "overacting" as a part of the character, which for me is portrayed quite convincingly Thanks! I have seen The Fifth Element actually, but in the years before I knew who Gary Oldman was. I was pretty young so I can't really remember anything about it. I should rewatch. I've had Léon for ages, meaning to get around to watching it so I must give it a go sometime. I saw The Dark Knight years ago too, but again, don't even remember Gary in it. I guess you could use that in a positive way too (implying transformative-ness)!?! Thank you again for the recommendations. It's not the type of role that people remember at first view (neither did I), but on rewatches of the trilogy the character he portrayed grew on me. I recently urged my friend to watch Léon, and when I told him it's the same actor playing Sirius Black, he didn't believe me until he searched google lol
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Mar 10, 2017 13:11:50 GMT
I like Oldman but I prefer DDL
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Mar 10, 2017 13:13:36 GMT
DDL is sooo much better at picking roles. Oldman is talented but a lot of the projects he attaches himself to are so poorly written that his performances come off as shallow caricatures. All of DDL's characters feel totally lived in and inhabited. They feel transformational, not just thrown on like an outfit to be worn.
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Post by pacinoyes on Nov 11, 2020 21:47:07 GMT
Recently watched Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead - apparently DDL was going to play the Tim Roth role (Guildenstern) but dropped out of the project with his Hamlet episode/issues.
Interesting, I never knew this before looking the film up today and reading this.......
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Post by ibbi on Nov 11, 2020 21:59:23 GMT
Recently watched Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead - apparently DDL was going to play the Tim Roth role (Guildenstern) but dropped out of the project with his Hamlet episode/issues. Interesting, I never knew this before looking the film up today and reading this....... Ah, but Roth and Oldman are so good together. From Meantime all the way to Nil by Mouth and The War Zone via this, and each of their iconic works with Alan Clarke in the 80s those two boys are downright symbiotic
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Post by rhodoraonline on Dec 15, 2020 21:03:38 GMT
I loved DDL in Lincoln and he was also great in Phantom Thread. And yet, he just can't match my Oldman's range which wins my vote.
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