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Post by HELENA MARIA on Sept 24, 2018 7:14:08 GMT
mulholland drive
the painted veil
king kong the impossible
the ring
NS ellie parker
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Post by JangoB on Sept 24, 2018 10:09:26 GMT
1. Mulholland Dr. 2. Twin Peaks 3. 21 Grams 4. King Kong 5. Birdman
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Post by cranly on Sept 24, 2018 10:33:09 GMT
Mulholland Drive (David Lynch -2001) 21 Grams (Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu - 2003) The Painted Veil (John Curran - 2006) Funny Games (Michael Haneke - 2007) Fair Game (Doug Liman - 2010)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 13:27:40 GMT
1. Mulholland Dr.
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Post by speeders on Sept 24, 2018 14:55:35 GMT
Mulholland Dr. Funny Games The Impossible 21 Grams Eastern Promises
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Post by notacrook on Sept 24, 2018 15:47:22 GMT
1) Mulholland Dr. (my all-time favourite movie performance) 2) 21 Grams 3) Funny Games 4) The Impossible 5) Birdman
If you counted Twin Peaks, that'd be right up there.
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Post by Kings_Requiem on Sept 24, 2018 16:15:26 GMT
Mulholland Dr. The Ring 21 Grams The Impossible Funny Games
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Post by avnermoriarti on Sept 24, 2018 16:24:07 GMT
An all-timer
21 Grams Mulholland Drive The Painted Veil Mother and Child While We're Young
The kind of actress that gives substance and activates so-so roles like The International or St. Vincent
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Post by moonman157 on Sept 24, 2018 16:26:17 GMT
Watts's has one of the saddest careers in all of Hollywood. Mulholland Dr is one of the greatest performances I've ever seen. It's a god damn tragedy that such a powerful actress rarely gets a part worthy of her. She's brilliant in Twin Peaks as well.
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Post by Drish on Sept 24, 2018 16:52:33 GMT
01. Ellie Parker 02. Mulholland Dr. 03. King Kong 04. Mother and Child 05. The Impossible 06. Twin Peaks 07. The Painted Veil 08. Fair Game 09. Birdman 10. 21 Grams
HMs: While We're Young, St. Vincent, Gypsy, MOVIE 43
Has been doing shitty movies lately but for my money, one of the best actreses there is, with or without Mulholland Dr.❤️
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 16:57:11 GMT
1. 21 Grams 2. The Painted Veil 3. Mulholland Dr. 4. The Impossible 5. Birdman
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 18:17:49 GMT
Her performance in Mulholland Drive is pretty much the pinnacle of acting. Essays could be written on the depth, intricacies, and power of it.
She's usually good in other stuff, but she's never come close to hitting that peak again (and I agree with Moonman that it's not really her fault, she's just not getting interesting roles). I liked her a lot in The Return. Eastern Promises, too.
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Post by stephen on Sept 24, 2018 18:51:43 GMT
I'll go you one better and give you a top ten.
1. Mulholland Dr. 2. The Impossible 3. 21 Grams 4. Twin Peaks: The Return 5. Birdman, or (The Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance) 6. King Kong 7. The Painted Veil 8. Fair Game 9. Eastern Promises 10. St. Vincent
I nominate her for most of these. She's one of the finest actresses working, and I'd take her over most of her contemporaries any day.
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Post by wattsnew on Sept 24, 2018 22:38:54 GMT
1. Mulholland Drive 2. Twin Peaks 3. I Heart Huckabees 4. King Kong 5. Birdman 6. Mother and Child 7. While We're Young 8. The Impossible 9. The Sea of Trees 10. Funny Games 11. The Ring 12. 21 Grams 13. Eastern Promises 14. Fair Game 15. Chuck
Everything after that is ok/middling. Haven't seen Ellie Parker or Painted Veil and a few others.
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Post by wattsnew on Sept 24, 2018 22:53:49 GMT
Watts's has one of the saddest careers in all of Hollywood. Mulholland Dr is one of the greatest performances I've ever seen. It's a god damn tragedy that such a powerful actress rarely gets a part worthy of her. She's brilliant in Twin Peaks as well. "One of the saddest careers in all of Hollywood"... really? She's doing just fine. It would've been sad if her career turned out like Laura Harring's did after Mulholland Drive, but it didn't. She still worked with about a dozen well regarded directors, many auteurs among them (Haneke for example, who considers her the best English speaking actress). She had the leading role in two hugely successful box office hits (Kong and Ring), among a few others. She was in a film that won Best Picture just 4 years ago. And yeah she absolutely deserves better, but it's a little hyperbolic to say her overall career has been sad. Her 00's run was pretty impressive I think, regardless of awards attention. Her 10's has been lacking overall, but she's still trying, and like I said the directors (Woody Allen, Gus Van Sant, Noah Baumbach, Jean Marc-Valee this decade alone. Plus Lynch and Inarritu for the 2nd time) she's worked with are directors any actor would dream to work with. It's just that the films themselves could've turned out better.
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Post by wattsnew on Sept 24, 2018 22:56:18 GMT
1. Mulholland Drive 2. Twin Peaks 3. I Heart Huckabees 4. King Kong 5. Birdman 6. Mother and Child 7. While We're Young 8. The Impossible 9. The Sea of Trees 10. Funny Games 11. The Ring 12. 21 Grams 13. Eastern Promises 14. Fair Game 15. Chuck Everything after that is ok/middling. Haven't seen Ellie Parker or Painted Veil and a few others. Shame on you, watts fanbot. I like having something to look forward to! I will certainly get to them eventually, don't worry.
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Post by moonman157 on Sept 24, 2018 23:17:12 GMT
Watts's has one of the saddest careers in all of Hollywood. Mulholland Dr is one of the greatest performances I've ever seen. It's a god damn tragedy that such a powerful actress rarely gets a part worthy of her. She's brilliant in Twin Peaks as well. "One of the saddest careers in all of Hollywood"... really? She's doing just fine. It would've been sad if her career turned out like Laura Harring's did after Mulholland Drive, but it didn't. She still worked with about a dozen well regarded directors, many auteurs among them (Haneke for example, who considers her the best English speaking actress). She had the leading role in two hugely successful box office hits (Kong and Ring), among a few others. She was in a film that won Best Picture just 4 years ago. And yeah she absolutely deserves better, but it's a little hyperbolic to say her overall career has been sad. Her 00's run was pretty impressive I think, regardless of awards attention. Her 10's has been lacking overall, but she's still trying, and like I said the directors (Woody Allen, Gus Van Sant, Noah Baumbach, Jean Marc-Valee this decade alone. Plus Lynch and Inarritu for the 2nd time) she's worked with are directors any actor would dream to work with. It's just that the films themselves could've turned out better. To have a breakthrough with something like Mulholland Dr, with such a dense, fascinating, juicy role, and then to basically never appear in another film that even comes close to holding that much esteem, especially given the quality of the roles she's usually given, is certainly sad in my book. All of the well-regarded directors you listed produced some of their worst works when they work with her and they were well past their prime or are absolute hacks like Inarritu. Of course her career has been fine in terms of "success" but at this point at least, when people look back on Watts's career the only genuine standouts are going to be Mulholland and The Return, and for a director of her caliber that is nowhere near what she deserves.
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Post by wattsnew on Sept 25, 2018 0:01:56 GMT
"One of the saddest careers in all of Hollywood"... really? She's doing just fine. It would've been sad if her career turned out like Laura Harring's did after Mulholland Drive, but it didn't. She still worked with about a dozen well regarded directors, many auteurs among them (Haneke for example, who considers her the best English speaking actress). She had the leading role in two hugely successful box office hits (Kong and Ring), among a few others. She was in a film that won Best Picture just 4 years ago. And yeah she absolutely deserves better, but it's a little hyperbolic to say her overall career has been sad. Her 00's run was pretty impressive I think, regardless of awards attention. Her 10's has been lacking overall, but she's still trying, and like I said the directors (Woody Allen, Gus Van Sant, Noah Baumbach, Jean Marc-Valee this decade alone. Plus Lynch and Inarritu for the 2nd time) she's worked with are directors any actor would dream to work with. It's just that the films themselves could've turned out better. To have a breakthrough with something like Mulholland Dr, with such a dense, fascinating, juicy role, and then to basically never appear in another film that even comes close to holding that much esteem, especially given the quality of the roles she's usually given, is certainly sad in my book. All of the well-regarded directors you listed produced some of their worst works when they work with her and they were well past their prime or are absolute hacks like Inarritu. Of course her career has been fine in terms of "success" but at this point at least, when people look back on Watts's career the only genuine standouts are going to be Mulholland and The Return, and for a director of her caliber that is nowhere near what she deserves. That's such a high standard to hold her to though. Have there even been any female roles for her age range since Mulholland Drive that would've been on par with it? There are many that come close, but honestly I don't think so. There's a reason many people consider it the best female performance of this century so far. To think that a role that special and staggering would come her way again, let alone any actress, would be a fool's errand. Mulholland Drive itself is often considered the best film of the century. How many actresses have leading roles in multiple films held in that high regard? Of course she hasn't been in another film holding that much esteem, there are maybe 10 films, probably even less, that critics would consider on the same level of quality since 2000. She'll be remembered for her Lynch roles by critics, but also for her Inarritu roles and her Haneke and her Cronenberg, etc. I think her work with O. Russell and Baumbach will be remembered fondly too. You may consider Innaritu a hack, but most critics don't and his films will absolutely be remembered. Audiences will remember her even more, with The Impossible, The Ring, King Kong, etc. "for a director of her caliber" She has yet to make her directorial debut, but I'm sure it will be a stunning masterpiece on par with Mulholland Drive with a juicy dense role for herself!
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Post by moonman157 on Sept 25, 2018 1:10:17 GMT
To have a breakthrough with something like Mulholland Dr, with such a dense, fascinating, juicy role, and then to basically never appear in another film that even comes close to holding that much esteem, especially given the quality of the roles she's usually given, is certainly sad in my book. All of the well-regarded directors you listed produced some of their worst works when they work with her and they were well past their prime or are absolute hacks like Inarritu. Of course her career has been fine in terms of "success" but at this point at least, when people look back on Watts's career the only genuine standouts are going to be Mulholland and The Return, and for a director of her caliber that is nowhere near what she deserves. That's such a high standard to hold her to though. Have there even been any female roles for her age range since Mulholland Drive that would've been on par with it? There are many that come close, but honestly I don't think so. There's a reason many people consider it the best female performance of this century so far. To think that a role that special and staggering would come her way again, let alone any actress, would be a fool's errand. Mulholland Drive itself is often considered the best film of the century. How many actresses have leading roles in multiple films held in that high regard? Of course she hasn't been in another film holding that much esteem, there are maybe 10 films, probably even less, that critics would consider on the same level of quality since 2000. She'll be remembered for her Lynch roles by critics, but also for her Inarritu roles and her Haneke and her Cronenberg, etc. I think her work with O. Russell and Baumbach will be remembered fondly too. You may consider Innaritu a hack, but most critics don't and his films will absolutely be remembered. Audiences will remember her even more, with The Impossible, The Ring, King Kong, etc. "for a director of her caliber" She has yet to make her directorial debut, but I'm sure it will be a stunning masterpiece on par with Mulholland Drive with a juicy dense role for herself! Ah yes, all of the rabid fans of THE IMPOSSIBLE that are out there will surely remember her performance fondly. Same goes for The Ring and King Kong, two other movies that are most definitely well-regarded. Nobody will think of Watts when they think of Birdman and mercifully people are already coming around on the fact that that movie was bad and it will mostly be remembered as another terrible decision by the Academy. Lots of similarly great actresses have appeared in a number of brilliant films over the years even within this century, the fact that Watts hasn't is a great loss. See: Huppert, Binoche, Williams, etc. You're being willfully obtuse. She has so much more promise than she has managed to capitalize on, that is pretty inarguable.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2018 1:13:51 GMT
Mulholland Dr. Twin Peaks Funny Games King Kong Birdman
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Post by ingmarhepburn on Sept 25, 2018 21:10:10 GMT
1. Mulholland Dr. 2. The Painted Veil 3. King Kong 4. The Ring 5. Birdman
HM: Twin Peaks: The Return
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Post by wattsnew on Sept 25, 2018 23:09:53 GMT
That's such a high standard to hold her to though. Have there even been any female roles for her age range since Mulholland Drive that would've been on par with it? There are many that come close, but honestly I don't think so. There's a reason many people consider it the best female performance of this century so far. To think that a role that special and staggering would come her way again, let alone any actress, would be a fool's errand. Mulholland Drive itself is often considered the best film of the century. How many actresses have leading roles in multiple films held in that high regard? Of course she hasn't been in another film holding that much esteem, there are maybe 10 films, probably even less, that critics would consider on the same level of quality since 2000. She'll be remembered for her Lynch roles by critics, but also for her Inarritu roles and her Haneke and her Cronenberg, etc. I think her work with O. Russell and Baumbach will be remembered fondly too. You may consider Innaritu a hack, but most critics don't and his films will absolutely be remembered. Audiences will remember her even more, with The Impossible, The Ring, King Kong, etc. "for a director of her caliber" She has yet to make her directorial debut, but I'm sure it will be a stunning masterpiece on par with Mulholland Drive with a juicy dense role for herself! Ah yes, all of the rabid fans of THE IMPOSSIBLE that are out there will surely remember her performance fondly. Same goes for The Ring and King Kong, two other movies that are most definitely well-regarded. Nobody will think of Watts when they think of Birdman and mercifully people are already coming around on the fact that that movie was bad and it will mostly be remembered as another terrible decision by the Academy. Lots of similarly great actresses have appeared in a number of brilliant films over the years even within this century, the fact that Watts hasn't is a great loss. See: Huppert, Binoche, Williams, etc. You're being willfully obtuse. She has so much more promise than she has managed to capitalize on, that is pretty inarguable. Yes, Her performance in the The Impossible was Oscar nominated performance and had many fans in the general population. My family still talks about it often (I didn't even recommend it to them!). Yes, those two movies both have many fierce defenders (Roger Ebert gave King Kong a perfect score) and had decent to good reviews at the time of release. Your comments on Birdman seem very opinion based, and biased, so I'm not going to even comment on that. I agree that it's too bad she hasn't appeared in more brilliant films! For the actresses you mentioned: what films have they been in that would be considered the best of the best of this century? On par with MD? The Piano Teacher and Amour for Huppert, Manchester and Brokeback Mountain for Williams, Certified Copy and Cache for Binoche? Maybe.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 2:27:48 GMT
01. Mulholland Dr. 02. The Impossible 03. Birdman 04. Eastern Promises 05. The Ring
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Post by moonman157 on Sept 27, 2018 11:43:20 GMT
Ah yes, all of the rabid fans of THE IMPOSSIBLE that are out there will surely remember her performance fondly. Same goes for The Ring and King Kong, two other movies that are most definitely well-regarded. Nobody will think of Watts when they think of Birdman and mercifully people are already coming around on the fact that that movie was bad and it will mostly be remembered as another terrible decision by the Academy. Lots of similarly great actresses have appeared in a number of brilliant films over the years even within this century, the fact that Watts hasn't is a great loss. See: Huppert, Binoche, Williams, etc. You're being willfully obtuse. She has so much more promise than she has managed to capitalize on, that is pretty inarguable. Yes, Her performance in the The Impossible was Oscar nominated performance and had many fans in the general population. My family still talks about it often (I didn't even recommend it to them!). Yes, those two movies both have many fierce defenders (Roger Ebert gave King Kong a perfect score) and had decent to good reviews at the time of release. Your comments on Birdman seem very opinion based, and biased, so I'm not going to even comment on that. I agree that it's too bad she hasn't appeared in more brilliant films! For the actresses you mentioned: what films have they been in that would be considered the best of the best of this century? On par with MD? The Piano Teacher and Amour for Huppert, Manchester and Brokeback Mountain for Williams, Certified Copy and Cache for Binoche? Maybe. I'd agree with your final comments to a point in that they might not have a watermark as high as Watts, though it's debatable for sure, but overall they have a far stronger body of work this century than Watts has managed. I love Watts so I really hope that she gets to give us some more great performances in the future, hopefully in movies worthy of her talent.
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Post by wattsnew on Sept 27, 2018 17:04:15 GMT
Yes, Her performance in the The Impossible was Oscar nominated performance and had many fans in the general population. My family still talks about it often (I didn't even recommend it to them!). Yes, those two movies both have many fierce defenders (Roger Ebert gave King Kong a perfect score) and had decent to good reviews at the time of release. Your comments on Birdman seem very opinion based, and biased, so I'm not going to even comment on that. I agree that it's too bad she hasn't appeared in more brilliant films! For the actresses you mentioned: what films have they been in that would be considered the best of the best of this century? On par with MD? The Piano Teacher and Amour for Huppert, Manchester and Brokeback Mountain for Williams, Certified Copy and Cache for Binoche? Maybe. I'd agree with your final comments to a point in that they might not have a watermark as high as Watts, though it's debatable for sure, but overall they have a far stronger body of work this century than Watts has managed. I love Watts so I really hope that she gets to give us some more great performances in the future, hopefully in movies worthy of her talent. I agree.
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