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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2022 16:56:42 GMT
Sounds fascinating. The question is... Who the hell could play Delon? Anthony Delon? Eh...
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Post by cherry68 on Mar 31, 2022 11:10:53 GMT
The Gorla massacre was due to a bombing, and caused the death of 184 children (the "Little Martyrs of Gorla"), pupils of the "Francesco Crispi" elementary school in Milan, following an allied air raid that hit the entire the Milanese district of Gorla on the morning of 20 October 1944, during the Second World War.
Context The allied command had formed the 15th Air Force USAAF with the aim of hitting sensitive targets throughout southern Europe. In the last months of 1944, it mainly dealt with neutralizing the residual resistance of the Italo-German forces stationed in northern Italy. Towards the middle of October, following a report by the RAF, the "15ª" was entrusted with the task of destroying the mechanical-steel production structures that still operated in the northern suburbs of Milan, a territory belonging to the Italian Social Republic.
As part of this mission, on the morning of October 20, 1944, the 36 "B-24" bombers of the 451st Bomb Group took off from the Castelluccio dei Sauri airport, near Foggia, under the command of Colonel James B. Knapp (1915 -1999), with the task of destroying the Breda plants in Sesto San Giovanni.
It was a particularly hard day for the Milanese citizens, given that the 38 "B-24" of the 461st Bomb Group had taken off at the same time, towards the Isotta Fraschini plants, and the 29 "B-24" of the "484º", directed to the Alfa Romeo plants .
While the missions of the "461º" and "484º" had full success, hitting the assigned objectives and causing a limited number of victims among the civilian population, the action of the "451º" was characterized by a series of accidents and errors, resolving itself in a military failure and, far worse, in a huge human tragedy. As mentioned, at 7:58 am the bombers of the 451 ° Bomb Group took off from the runway of the Castelluccio dei Sauri airport, near Foggia. The plan of attack envisaged reaching, with a large circumvention, the initial reference point, located about 4 km west of the target, to make a 22 ° left turn and be above the Breda factories. In order not to be an easy target for the anti-aircraft, the attack was divided into two successive waves.
The action of the first wave was unsuccessful, due to a short circuit in the launch command of the "B-24" formation leader, which suddenly and prematurely activated the launch procedure, immediately imitated by the remaining pilots of the following formation. Fortunately, the bombs ended up in the open countryside without causing casualties.
The second wave, probably due to the incorrect transcription or interpretation of the coordinates in code, once it reached the starting point above Milan, veered 22 ° to the right instead of to the left. By the time the error was detected, it was too late to change direction and it was impossible to make a second alignment flight. The load of bombs, now all triggered, prevented, for safety reasons, the landing of the loaded bomber at the base; Knapp, instead of getting rid of the load by dropping the 342 500-pound bombs on the return journey over the Cremona countryside or the Adriatic Sea, decided to discard them immediately, dropping them on the town below.
At 11:29 am the towns of Gorla and Precotto were hit by almost 80 tons of explosives.
Most of the bombs reached the Milanese district of Gorla. The damage was huge and the victims were numerous, although a large part of the population had reached the air-raid shelters, warned by the first alarm at 11:14 and the next at 11:24. One of the bombs, fatally, hit the stairwell of the "Francesco Crispi" elementary school, just as children and school staff were descending to reach the building's underground shelter; 184 children, 14 teachers, the headmistress of the school, 4 janitors and a health assistant died.
In the city of Milan, on that 20 October, there were 614 victims extracted from the rubble, as well as a few hundred injured.
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Post by Billy_Costigan on Mar 31, 2022 17:08:00 GMT
Today on MSNBC they had on the author of a new book on Albert Hicks: Amazing story/character - I just ordered the book - which is called The Last Pirate of New York. Who could play this guy - he was 40 when executed in 1860? "He was a triple murderer, and one of the last persons executed for piracy in the United States. Cultural historian Rich Cohen places him as the first New York City legendary gangster figure, a bridge between piracy of old and the rise of the new "gangster nation". Afterwards, Hicks gave a full confession of the murders and his life story which was published as a book on the day of his execution.
"Hicks escaped a number of times prior but he was re-apprehended and given increasingly severe sentences, including a year in solitary where Hicks said he went a little crazy. He swore vengeance "against the whole human race"...the devil took possession of me".en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_W._HicksHow was the book? I added it to my Audible list.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 31, 2022 17:29:00 GMT
Today on MSNBC they had on the author of a new book on Albert Hicks: Amazing story/character - I just ordered the book - which is called The Last Pirate of New York. Who could play this guy - he was 40 when executed in 1860? "He was a triple murderer, and one of the last persons executed for piracy in the United States. Cultural historian Rich Cohen places him as the first New York City legendary gangster figure, a bridge between piracy of old and the rise of the new "gangster nation". Afterwards, Hicks gave a full confession of the murders and his life story which was published as a book on the day of his execution.
"Hicks escaped a number of times prior but he was re-apprehended and given increasingly severe sentences, including a year in solitary where Hicks said he went a little crazy. He swore vengeance "against the whole human race"...the devil took possession of me".en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_W._HicksHow was the book? I added it to my Audible list. It's pretty great but it is so short that it reads as almost an outline of the overall story - and it is also so unbelievable with so many details that overlap - that I had to go back and re-read parts of it to see exactly what was developing because there are times I was like "Wait, what happened again?" ........ this book could have literally been 5 times longer than it is. There's also a great movie to be made out of the complete story - sort of gangster deglamorization story and a revisionist movie about how people are gullible and stuff like that. ..........and romanticize the worst people......he's like a real life Shakespeare villain....... Hope you enjoy it
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Post by Joaquim on Mar 31, 2022 18:00:30 GMT
Was watching this vid on the greatest enemies of Rome the other day (no shout out for the praetorian guard smh) and thought it’d be cool in particular to see something on Mithridates considering that legendary cast of characters that he went up against during his reign, going up against Sulla and a young Pompey among others. These events happen about a generation before the events we see in the HBO show so uhh if that show had actually picked the right start date for its story and survived more than 2 seasons we would’ve already been able to see this. As I like to say, if you want to show the transition from republic to empire as was the HBO show’s intention you gotta start the story after the end of the 3rd Punic war and the rise of the Gracchi brothers when Rome had defeated all of its external opponents that could actually be an existential threat so it turned on itself since the only way for ambitious men to gain dignitas now was by doing crazy shit at home
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Post by pacinoyes on May 7, 2022 20:03:28 GMT
This is the subject of a song I like (see below) and apprarently has been covered on TV (The Blacklist for one) this would a great movie ...... Project MKUltra (or MK-Ultra) was the code name of an illegal human experimentation program designed and undertaken by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). The experiments were intended to develop procedures and identify drugs such as LSD that could be used in interrogations to weaken individuals and force confessions through brainwashing and psychological torture. MKUltra used numerous methods to manipulate its subjects' mental states and brain functions, such as the covert administration of high doses of psychoactive drugs (especially LSD) and other chemicals, electroshocks, hypnosis, sensory deprivation, isolation, and verbal and sexual abuse, in addition to other forms of torture.
MKUltra was preceded by two drug-related experiments, Project Bluebird and Project Artichoke. It began in 1953, was reduced in scope in 1964 and 1967, and was halted in 1973. It was organized through the CIA's Office of Scientific Intelligence and coordinated with the United States Army Biological Warfare Laboratories. The program engaged in illegal activities including the use of U.S. and Canadian citizens as unwitting test subjects. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra
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Post by Martin Stett on May 7, 2022 23:06:49 GMT
On a similar note to Pac's recommendation, perhaps something should be made on Japan's Unit 731? Some of the most horrific human experimentation came from that, but the Americans brushed it under the rug because it was convenient.
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 15, 2023 19:25:59 GMT
I watched a documentary (Age of the Gods 1992) this week that's kind of amazing in subject matter and in some ways execution (has an interview with Jean Marais in it!).......... Arno Breker who was a radical sculptor who became a sculptor for the Nazi regime. The contradiction was deep: The doc has extraordinary Art in it ..........and gets into many issues far more complicated than just "Artist vs. Art" - now it goes to when do you stop creating the Art in the first place and how you maybe lose yourself in the process........lots of perpheral issues of who "owns" historical imagery and who subverts it.....what "good" or "evil" comes from Art......... The story is chilling in just this doc........but in a narrative film you could make a stone cold classic....... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arno_Breker"Ninety percent of Breker's public works were destroyed during the bombings of Germany toward the end of the war. In 1946, Breker was offered a commission by Soviet leader Joseph Stalin, but he refused, saying "One dictatorship is sufficient for me"
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Post by dazed on Apr 1, 2023 5:10:06 GMT
Always thought this would be a great idea for a movie when my girlfriend was telling me about it, and funny enough i seen it posted on a forum recently which reminded me of this thread (and they named a director too which i think would be perfect)
A movie about Olga of Kyiv, with Robert Eggers being the one who makes it. Mel Gibson would be a great option too.
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Post by Martin Stett on Apr 5, 2023 5:47:45 GMT
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Post by Martin Stett on Apr 5, 2023 15:13:36 GMT
A currently unfolding event that would make a great movie/miniseries would be the Chapek/Iger Disney stuff going on. It's hilarious that Chapek got his contract extended and then got immediately fired, the Reedy Creek shenanigans with DeSantis, and the behind the scenes drama of what the hell is happening inside the WDC (the recent layoffs affecting even top jobs like Perlmutter and Alonso) would be an incredible Margin Call sort of drama or even a Death of Stalin style comedy - you could tackle it in a myriad of styles.
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Post by getclutch on Apr 29, 2023 15:38:24 GMT
Federal Express Flight 705 (4/7/94)
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Post by Lord_Buscemi on May 12, 2023 9:10:45 GMT
Was thinking about it because of the recent Oppenheimer trailer, but it's crazy a film about Fritz Haber hasn't been made yet. Arguably a much more fascinating, tragic figure than Oppenheimer and more morally grey overall with what he accomplished in life.
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Post by getclutch on Jun 11, 2023 16:51:56 GMT
"The Amoco Research Center in suburban Naperville has been hit with a horrifying medical mystery. Since 1989, 19 employees have been diagnosed with brain tumors and four have died. Now, for the first time, some of the workers speak out. And they raise troubling questions about the safety of the very air they breathed". -Johnathan Eig ( www.chicagomag.com/chicago-magazine/september-2018/cancer-cluster/) The building was shutdown in 1996. Demolished in 2010.
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Post by Lord_Buscemi on Jun 19, 2023 14:34:53 GMT
A film about the deadliest violence in the Pacific since WW2, the Bougainville conflict, which has now resulted in their scheduled 2027 independence from Papua New Guinea, finalised by the long-awaited referendum held in 2019 that saw 98% vote in favour of separating. It was home to the Panguna mine, one of the world's largest copper mines, with many Papua New Guineans and Australians migrating to the island to work, creating ethnic tensions among the locals that erupted into a decade-long civil war in 1988, developing into a separatist insurgency. It also led to the downfall (and almost coup) of Papua New Guinea's government in 1996, who hired mercenaries from a private military company called Sandline to retake the mine. Seeing as they're set to become the world's newest country and the conflict is relatively unknown outside of the region, I think it would be a great time for a proper film on the subject.
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Post by TylerDeneuve on Jun 21, 2023 17:32:40 GMT
A film focusing on the Irish Brigade at the Battle of Fredericksburg (U.S. Civil War) could be extremely interesting, especially since, at one point, they were fighting other Irish immigrants on the Confederate side... I'm thinking this is what inspired (at least in part) Thomas Cullinan's novel The Beguiled (later adapted for film by both Don Siegel and Sofia Coppola), but I can't say for certain... stephen The clip below is from a documentary film about the Battle of Fredericksburg narrated by James Earl Jones, Mattsby! I watched it over the weekend at the site of the battle in Virginia.
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Post by stephen on Jun 21, 2023 18:14:28 GMT
A film focusing on the Irish Brigade at the Battle of Fredericksburg (U.S. Civil War) could be extremely interesting, especially since, at one point, they were fighting other Irish immigrants on the Confederate side... I'm thinking this is what inspired (at least in part) Thomas Cullinan's novel The Beguiled (later adapted for film by both Don Siegel and Sofia Coppola), but I can't say for certain... stephen The clip below is from a documentary film about the Battle of Fredericksburg narrated by James Earl Jones, Mattsby ! I watched it over the weekend at the site of the battle in Virginia. Gods and Generals is the only time I can recall the Irish brigades at Fredericksburg being portrayed in film, which culminates in my favourite musical track of the decade:
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Post by Martin Stett on Aug 7, 2023 17:46:19 GMT
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Post by TylerDeneuve on Aug 24, 2023 18:41:38 GMT
The story of Matilda, who by rights should have been the first-ever Queen of England (before her Crown was usurped by her cousin, Stephen of Blois), seems like it could be a very ripe vehicle for Jodie Comer and Ridley Scott, right? (She inspired, at least in part, House of the Dragon.) Edit: Shit... Could we move this to the "Historical Event... Subject for a Film" thread? Lol. mikediastavrone96stephen pacinoyes ibbi Mattsby mhynson27 The_Cake_of_Roth LaraQ Barbie
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Aug 24, 2023 22:02:20 GMT
The story of Matilda, who by rights should have been the first-ever Queen of England (before her Crown was usurped by her cousin, Stephen of Blois), seems like it could be a very ripe vehicle for Jodie Comer and Ridley Scott, right? (She inspired, at least in part, House of the Dragon.) Edit: Shit... Could we move this to the "Historical Event... Subject for a Film" thread? Lol. mikediastavrone96 stephen pacinoyes ibbi Mattsby mhynson27 The_Cake_of_Roth LaraQ Barbie Gotcha.
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Post by stephen on Aug 24, 2023 23:04:45 GMT
The story of Matilda, who by rights should have been the first-ever Queen of England (before her Crown was usurped by her cousin, Stephen of Blois), seems like it could be a very ripe vehicle for Jodie Comer and Ridley Scott, right? (She inspired, at least in part, House of the Dragon.) Edit: Shit... Could we move this to the "Historical Event... Subject for a Film" thread? Lol. mikediastavrone96 stephen pacinoyes ibbi Mattsby mhynson27 The_Cake_of_Roth LaraQ Barbie The story of the Anarchy would indeed be ripe for a great series. In fact, the fallout from the White Ship disaster and the resulting Anarchy are the backdrops for both Ken Follett's fantastic Pillars of the Earth (which was adapted into a strong miniseries, where Alison Pill played Queen Matilda) and the excellent Derek Jacobi monk detective series Brother Cadfael. Matilda and Stephen are such fascinating characters and the way they came to rival each other for the throne is an engrossing story, but it'd be tough to pull it off in a single film.
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Post by JangoB on Aug 25, 2023 0:37:22 GMT
On a similar note to Pac's recommendation, perhaps something should be made on Japan's Unit 731? Some of the most horrific human experimentation came from that, but the Americans brushed it under the rug because it was convenient. You're in for a treat (I guess): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_Behind_the_Sun
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Post by Martin Stett on Aug 25, 2023 1:43:17 GMT
On a similar note to Pac's recommendation, perhaps something should be made on Japan's Unit 731? Some of the most horrific human experimentation came from that, but the Americans brushed it under the rug because it was convenient. You're in for a treat (I guess): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_Behind_the_SunYeah, I... uh, found out about that movie. Maybe a *different* movie on Unit 731?
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Post by Joaquim on Aug 25, 2023 11:26:01 GMT
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Post by getclutch on Sept 5, 2023 15:15:41 GMT
Some of you may know that I love to watch golf. Therefore, John Daly. A man that has won 2 majors though very possibly would have won more had his addiction to alcohol/drugs never got in the way. Bleacher Report acknowledged that actor Jonah Hill will play the lead. That might be out the window? who knows at this point. Daly also stated that professional golfers were using cocaine amongst other drugs in the late 80’s into the early 90’s. It would be great to set the time frame there.
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