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Post by thomasjerome on Sept 3, 2018 17:34:19 GMT
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Post by DeepArcher on Sept 3, 2018 19:20:56 GMT
Dafoe is currently who I'm thinking will take Best Actor (though it's looking like a competitive race this year) so this praise is encouraging. From the look of the released clip I am worried this may be too unconventional for the Academy's liking, but Schnabel has been successful with them in the past and The Diving Bell and the Butterfly certainly wasn't a conventionally-told film.
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Post by stephen on Sept 3, 2018 20:08:13 GMT
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 3, 2018 21:14:01 GMT
What else would The Daily Beast call it. The fact that they would be considered seriously, - not by you stephen - but in general by the film community as a whole an impartial source and they are - indeed they are a rather a gross RT contributor (but seen as impartial just like the NY Times wtf!) is something we should give serious pause to and think about.............a lot. That's a left wing political service and that's fine, I'm a left wing guy who may read such a site (at times) but I don't want it in my film reviews and I know for sure the review they are going to give that film far in advance. That is never the way things used to be - Peter Rainer used to write things for the Christian Science Monitor that challenged at the times their readership, the paper, the other media and he did it all the time. He wrote illuminatingly and impartially on film. You can't write for The Daily Beast unless you support the most basic, surface POV. F'n ridiculous.....  |
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Post by stephen on Sept 3, 2018 22:44:11 GMT
What else would The Daily Beast call it. The fact that they would be considered seriously, - not by you stephen - but in general by the film community as a whole an impartial source and they are - indeed they are a rather a gross RT contributor (but seen as impartial just like the NY Times wtf!) is something we should give serious pause to and think about.............a lot. That's a left wing political service and that's fine, I'm a left wing guy who may read such a site (at times) but I don't want it in my film reviews and I know for sure the review they are going to give that film far in advance. That is never the way things used to be - Peter Rainer used to right things for the Christian Science Monitor that challenged at the times their readership, the paper, the other media and he did it all the time. He wrote illuminatingly and impartially on film. You can't write for The Daily Beast unless you support the most basic, surface POV. F'n ridiculous..... I see where you're coming from, but movies dealing with super-charged political ideas and motifs are always going to be scrutinized in eras where said themes are still very raw. And Zahler is not a subtle man, both as a writer and as a director. I don't blame people for not wanting to see it, considering its controversial star and general premise. But there are a lot of people on social media and elsewhere that I'm seeing starting to presuppose that Zahler ranges from a tone-deaf idiot to a full-blown white supremacist, due to his first two films dealing with violence and brutality towards people with brown/dark skin. I don't think I'd agree with that, but it almost feels like this film was specifically designed to court controversy. I do think that provocative filmmaking still very much does have a place in cinema, but it does make me wonder why Mel Gibson (someone who's still trying to rehabilitate his image) would take a role like this, regardless of its quality. The PR was always going to be rough with him attached to play a role like this. I've heard that the more sympathetic roles in the piece are actually the minority characters (i.e. Tory Kittles), which I suppose is a good sign and that they aren't just faceless chattel to be brutalized and punished. Still, it seems like this movie's very existence and Gibson's involvement is tickling the dragon's tail, and I don't necessarily see the upside (again, regardless of the film's overall quality). |
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Post by stephen on Sept 3, 2018 22:47:02 GMT
Dafoe is currently who I'm thinking will take Best Actor (though it's looking like a competitive race this year) so this praise is encouraging. From the look of the released clip I am worried this may be too unconventional for the Academy's liking, but Schnabel has been successful with them in the past and The Diving Bell and the Butterfly certainly wasn't a conventionally-told film. I'm feeling Reilly myself for the Cup at the moment. I just feel he's going to appeal to the jury a bit more. But is Best Actor that much of a competition at Venice this year? There's Dafoe, Reilly, Gosling, the Mountain boys . . . but that's about it thus far. Best Actress is the far denser category. |
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Post by DeepArcher on Sept 3, 2018 23:07:19 GMT
Dafoe is currently who I'm thinking will take Best Actor (though it's looking like a competitive race this year) so this praise is encouraging. From the look of the released clip I am worried this may be too unconventional for the Academy's liking, but Schnabel has been successful with them in the past and The Diving Bell and the Butterfly certainly wasn't a conventionally-told film. I'm feeling Reilly myself for the Cup at the moment. I just feel he's going to appeal to the jury a bit more. But is Best Actor that much of a competition at Venice this year? There's Dafoe, Reilly, Gosling, the Mountain boys . . . but that's about it thus far. Best Actress is the far denser category. Lmao I meant at the Oscars ... should've made that clearer. |
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Post by thomasjerome on Sept 3, 2018 23:16:40 GMT
Dafoe is currently who I'm thinking will take Best Actor (though it's looking like a competitive race this year) so this praise is encouraging. From the look of the released clip I am worried this may be too unconventional for the Academy's liking, but Schnabel has been successful with them in the past and The Diving Bell and the Butterfly certainly wasn't a conventionally-told film. As a Dafoe fanatic, I'm not sure of it. CBS films is not necessarily the best distributor and the film is no easy sell as it's obvious from the clip. While he gets straight up raves, not all reviews are particularly high on the film itself. If critics would rally behind him again, I could see it being possible but because he swept critics awards last year, I doubt it's gonna happen this year again. I hope I'm wrong, of course. Volpi Cup would certainly help. |
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Post by DeepArcher on Sept 3, 2018 23:30:36 GMT
Dafoe is currently who I'm thinking will take Best Actor (though it's looking like a competitive race this year) so this praise is encouraging. From the look of the released clip I am worried this may be too unconventional for the Academy's liking, but Schnabel has been successful with them in the past and The Diving Bell and the Butterfly certainly wasn't a conventionally-told film. As a Dafoe fanatic, I'm not sure of it. CBS films is not necessarily the best distributor and the film is no easy sell as it's obvious from the clip. While he gets straight up raves, not all reviews are particularly high on the film itself. If critics would rally behind him again, I could see it being possible but because he swept critics awards last year, I doubt it's gonna happen this year again. I hope I'm wrong, of course. Volpi Cup would certainly help. Yeah, I echo these thoughts actually ... I was much more keen on predicting Dafoe because I thought this was gonna be more a conventional biopic, which it, to some extent, clearly isn't. To me it seemed that Dafoe could follow a similar narrative as Oldman: well-respected, well-liked veteran without much prior awards success finally gets his due after portraying an iconic historical figure. Not to mention I'm sure there's a decent chunk of the voting population who will want to recognize Dafoe to compensate for last year. But the big factor now is I'm not too sure if At Eternity's Gate as a film will sit well with the voters (especially if its not getting super high praise), and that's making me very skeptical now, though I still think it's well within plausibility. |
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Post by thomasjerome on Sept 4, 2018 12:38:29 GMT
Apparently "At Eternity's Gate" is not the only Venice title with Dafoe this year: Telegraph just posted a 5/5 review and removed immediately. |
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Post by stephen on Sept 4, 2018 13:00:36 GMT
Looks like there's a lot of buzz around Vox Lux. Birdman comparisons from more than one source.
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Post by stephen on Sept 4, 2018 14:14:43 GMT
Vox Lux reactions:
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Post by Zeb31 on Sept 4, 2018 14:25:30 GMT
Still wish Rooney hadn't dropped out, but this certainly piques my interest.
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Really hyped to see MA's reactions to this.
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Post by blackrider86 on Sept 4, 2018 19:22:48 GMT
OMG. Portmania RISES! Somebody please pick this sh!t up and realease it this year.  |
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Post by stephen on Sept 4, 2018 20:21:51 GMT
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Post by evilbliss on Sept 4, 2018 21:55:55 GMT
I love Portman's recent HUNGER for these projects. She has so many coming up!
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Post by bob-coppola on Sept 4, 2018 23:46:02 GMT
Love to see Portman crashing the party every year unexpectedly  |
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Sept 5, 2018 1:47:41 GMT
Son of Saul was my #1 of 2015, so I'm looking forward to this. IndieWire's description of it as a film that unfolds like a haunting, sorrowful first-person mystery that feels like a memory or a dream about the end of an era makes it sound like something I could potentially love. |
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Post by stephen on Sept 5, 2018 2:32:36 GMT
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Post by dazed on Sept 5, 2018 4:00:31 GMT
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Post by stephen on Sept 5, 2018 17:47:03 GMT
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Post by stephen on Sept 5, 2018 20:04:47 GMT
Reactions to The Nightingale, Jennifer Kent's Aussie revenge Western:
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Post by DeepArcher on Sept 5, 2018 21:00:10 GMT
Nice. I thought The Babadook sucked ass, but I'm looking forward to this one nonetheless.
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Post by chris3 on Sept 5, 2018 22:33:57 GMT
Hell yeah! The Babadook is one of the best debut films of the decade. I'm so happy she used its success to make a passion project instead of latching onto some Hollywood franchise for the money. Jennifer Kent rules.
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Post by stephen on Sept 5, 2018 22:46:49 GMT
So apparently there was a rather unsavory response to The Nightingale at Venice, where at the end of the very first press screening, someone yelled "You suck, whore!" when Kent's name came up in the credits.
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