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Post by TheAlwaysClassy on Jul 12, 2018 21:37:11 GMT
Sorry if this is the wrong place for this.
Re-watching Twin Peaks: The Return and remembering how many people gave it their own personal Best Picture wins got me to thinking: If you were to mix films and seasons of television shows, would you give any of the shows your personal wins? Twins Peaks: The Return would easily get my win for 2017, and after putting a lot of thought into it, I would give BP wins to The Wire season 3 (2004), Deadwood season 2 (2005) and The Wire season 4 (2006). HBO was really killing it in those days.
Of course, a lot of shows will start in the fall of one year and end in the spring of the following year, so that complicates matters...
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Post by Martin Stett on Jul 12, 2018 22:10:09 GMT
I don't watch enough television to really tell. Cowboy Bebop obliterates a terrible year in 1998*. Madoka Magica obliterates 2011*. Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy would probably win the incredibly stacked 1979. And I'd arguably choose Kino's Journey for 2003, despite my love for Lost in Translation.
*Both ended the year after their start, but meh. I'd choose them for winning BP regardless.
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Post by bob-coppola on Jul 12, 2018 23:07:04 GMT
I'd sure give Elisabeth Moss a Best Actress win last year for The Handmaid's Tale.
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Post by stephen on Jul 12, 2018 23:09:32 GMT
Mark Rylance in Wolf Hall would rate in my all-time Top 3 for Best Actor if I had him eligible.
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Post by Viced on Jul 12, 2018 23:22:25 GMT
Hard to compare TV seasons to films... but:
2014: Olive Kitteridge
2015: The Leftovers [season 2]
2018: not sure any film will surpass season 6 of The Americans...
But something like season 6b of The Sopranos vs. No Country for Old Men in 2007 is impossible to choose... I guess it's tougher in a year where there was a masterpiece of a film released.
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Post by TheAlwaysClassy on Jul 13, 2018 1:26:01 GMT
Mark Rylance in Wolf Hall would rate in my all-time Top 3 for Best Actor if I had him eligible.  Still haven't watched, but that's a huge claim, dude. I guess I have no choice but to check this out this weekend. |
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Post by stephen on Jul 13, 2018 1:54:37 GMT
Mark Rylance in Wolf Hall would rate in my all-time Top 3 for Best Actor if I had him eligible. Still haven't watched, but that's a huge claim, dude. I guess I have no choice but to check this out this weekend. Please let me know your thoughts. |
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Jul 13, 2018 2:22:09 GMT
This whole concept is dumb but The Sopranos and The Wire I'm sure would win something.
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Post by TheAlwaysClassy on Jul 13, 2018 3:08:34 GMT
This whole concept is dumb but The Sopranos and The Wire I'm sure would win something. Can you give any personal wins? Like, I personally would give Andre Royo every Supporting Actor win I could give him. |
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Post by urbanpatrician on Jul 13, 2018 5:04:04 GMT
Well... my favorite shows aren't like you guys'. I don't usually like HBO shows enough to name them all-time favorites, but some are watchable definitely. I tend to go for the anime-ish shows. That being said, Justice League would win 2001 + 2002 easily. And 2003 which is the absolute peak of the show..... it's probably not going to unseat Lost in Translation - even though that was like one of the best periods of comic book extravaganza, with Raimi's first two Spider-Man films in 2002+2004.
Death Note... I prefer only like 8 films total to it, so it wins 2006 fairly easily. Not as easily as previous years, but still easy enough. 2007... I'm torn. Pushing Daisies is one of my all-time favorite shows, but 2007 had Death Note and Pushing Daisies. 2007 is the superior season of Pushing Daisies compared to 2007 the weaker season of Death Note, but still both were going strong initially into the 2nd season if declined a bit towards the end. Dunno what to pick there. 2008 is Pushing Daisies easily though, mainly because my #1 film isn't really that strong.
But it's safe to say... 2001, 2002, 2006, 2007, and 2008.... 5 years in the 00s would have a TV series as a winner. And apparently I need to see Kino's Journey. Something in TV that year can already take a jab at Lost in Translation. Would be interesting if there's another one.
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Post by Martin Stett on Jul 13, 2018 5:33:06 GMT
Well... my favorite shows aren't like you guys'. I don't usually like HBO shows enough to name them all-time favorites, but some are watchable definitely. I tend to go for the anime-ish shows. That being said, Justice League would win 2001 + 2002 easily. And 2003 which is the absolute peak of the show..... it's probably not going to unseat Lost in Translation - even though that was like one of the best periods of comic book extravaganza, with Raimi's first two Spider-Man films in 2002+2004. Death Note... I prefer only like 8 films total to it, so it wins 2006 fairly easily. Not as easily as previous years, but still easy enough. 2007... I'm torn. Pushing Daisies is one of my all-time favorite shows, but 2007 had Death Note and Pushing Daisies. 2007 is the superior season of Pushing Daisies compared to 2007 the weaker season of Death Note, but still both were going strong initially into the 2nd season if declined a bit towards the end. Dunno what to pick there. 2008 is Pushing Daisies easily though, mainly because my #1 film isn't really that strong. But it's safe to say... 2001, 2002, 2006, 2007, and 2008.... 5 years in the 00s would have a TV series as a winner. And apparently I need to see Kino's Journey. Something in TV that year can already take a jab at Lost in Translation. Would be interesting if there's another one. I like Death Note. It's a terrific thriller. As a pure suspense piece, it is aces. It has interesting viewpoints on vigilantism that Marvel could never dream of competing with. The characters are all fairly interesting (Misa takes the prize for most interesting version of Harley Quinn ever put on screen). However, there are three marks against it. 1. I felt dirty after every episode. 2. The whole "Kira and L are teenagers thing" stretched my suspension of disbelief (not so much Kira as L, although Kira investigating the crimes so early on made me  ), and the show would sometimes break it entirely. I'm looking at you, supervillain prison and slashfic fuel arcs. 3. That... thing that happens. You know, that. The reason the second season crumbles is entirely due to... that. To be honest, it is the first point that is the most damning for me. It is unbelievably strong as a cat and mouse game, but Kira is so evil that I had to push myself to get through. As for Kino's Journey: was it you who enjoyed Serial Experiments Lain? This is from the same director. Think of it as a cross between the absurdist humor of The Lobster and the pacing and good nature of Paterson. It's a show of such deliberate pacing that I can totally understand anyone that doesn't like it, but I adored every one of its observations on the good and the evil that man is capable of. |
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Post by JangoB on Jul 13, 2018 12:21:21 GMT
S3 of Twin Peaks would EASILY win my 2017 Best Picture thing if I made it eligible.
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Post by Martin Stett on Jul 13, 2018 16:45:56 GMT
I like Death Note. It's a terrific thriller. As a pure suspense piece, it is aces. It has interesting viewpoints on vigilantism that Marvel could never dream of competing with. The characters are all fairly interesting (Misa takes the prize for most interesting version of Harley Quinn ever put on screen). However, there are three marks against it. 1. I felt dirty after every episode. 2. The whole "Kira and L are teenagers thing" stretched my suspension of disbelief (not so much Kira as L, although Kira investigating the crimes so early on made me ), and the show would sometimes break it entirely. I'm looking at you, supervillain prison and slashfic fuel arcs. 3. That... thing that happens. You know, that. The reason the second season crumbles is entirely due to... that. To be honest, it is the first point that is the most damning for me. It is unbelievably strong as a cat and mouse game, but Kira is so evil that I had to push myself to get through. As for Kino's Journey: was it you who enjoyed Serial Experiments Lain? This is from the same director. Think of it as a cross between the absurdist humor of The Lobster and the pacing and good nature of Paterson. It's a show of such deliberate pacing that I can totally understand anyone that doesn't like it, but I adored every one of its observations on the good and the evil that man is capable of. I'm gonna assume that thing is what everyone says about it. And yes.... while I agree it starts to go down at that point, it's still a highly watchable show. Even though it did become a bit predictable and Near is living in the shadows of L, and it starts treading some mental asylum/psycholoanalytical territory and you can see the interest in the writing start to go down, moreso the investigative team is now starting to feel bored already after years of searching. I'm not sure what "I felt dirty" means, tbh. It's a pretty vague expression, but if you were a bit sensitive to the evil, subhuman, nature of some of the characters.... eh, I dunno. I can't really argue too much on that point. Kira as L? I'm a bit confused as to what you're speaking about here, and what you find hard to suspend. I find it to be in the nature of a believable anime. A bit fantastical, but again not sure what you're finding hard to adjust to imaginatively. I dunno about Lain. The evil characters were what I was talking about, yeah. The show went too far for my own personal taste. "Kira as L" was meant to say that I didn't have so much trouble with Kira being a teenager as L somehow being the world's greatest detective when he only has ten pubic hairs. It was a bit ridiculous that Kira wound up joining the investigation team seeing as how he's a teenager, but it is even more ridiculous that L is some master detective with such an extensive resume. He must have caught all of the world's greatest criminals in a span of five years tops. |
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Post by Sharbs on Jul 13, 2018 17:15:07 GMT
Twin Peaks: The Return
s1&2 of The Leftovers would be close, but tough to compare with Breathe and Brooklyn, respectively
s4 of Dexter
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Post by urbanpatrician on Jul 13, 2018 17:16:34 GMT
I'm gonna assume that thing is what everyone says about it. And yes.... while I agree it starts to go down at that point, it's still a highly watchable show. Even though it did become a bit predictable and Near is living in the shadows of L, and it starts treading some mental asylum/psycholoanalytical territory and you can see the interest in the writing start to go down, moreso the investigative team is now starting to feel bored already after years of searching. I'm not sure what "I felt dirty" means, tbh. It's a pretty vague expression, but if you were a bit sensitive to the evil, subhuman, nature of some of the characters.... eh, I dunno. I can't really argue too much on that point. Kira as L? I'm a bit confused as to what you're speaking about here, and what you find hard to suspend. I find it to be in the nature of a believable anime. A bit fantastical, but again not sure what you're finding hard to adjust to imaginatively. I dunno about Lain. The evil characters were what I was talking about, yeah. The show went too far for my own personal taste. "Kira as L" was meant to say that I didn't have so much trouble with Kira being a teenager as L somehow being the world's greatest detective when he only has ten pubic hairs. It was a bit ridiculous that Kira wound up joining the investigation team seeing as how he's a teenager, but it is even more ridiculous that L is some master detective with such an extensive resume. He must have caught all of the world's greatest criminals in a span of five years tops. Ehhhh. I tend to like supernatural sensation, so let's say we can agree to disagree on the type of content we prefer. And as I said, I had no believeability issues with it, and found nothing hard to suspend. Anime heroines and "super intelligent guy using his powers for good/or bad" are often teenagers. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Kira is an imaginative character right? I'm sorry you only "like" it, being that there aren't any other anime fans on this board. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2018 18:15:35 GMT
Well... my favorite shows aren't like you guys'. I don't usually like HBO shows enough to name them all-time favorites, but some are watchable definitely. I tend to go for the anime-ish shows. That being said, Justice League would win 2001 + 2002 easily. And 2003 which is the absolute peak of the show..... it's probably not going to unseat Lost in Translation - even though that was like one of the best periods of comic book extravaganza, with Raimi's first two Spider-Man films in 2002+2004. I watched the Justice League show with my dad growing up and thought it was fantastic. The episodes I've rewatched since have held up. That thing is seriously underrated and blows any post-2010 superhero movie out of the water. My answer for this thread: never really thought about this. Twin Peaks: The Return probably would win my Best Picture of All Time, so that's that for 2017. Maybe one of the early seasons of Lost would have a shot? It's hard to tell without going back and looking at my ratings. |
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Post by Martin Stett on Jul 13, 2018 18:40:31 GMT
The evil characters were what I was talking about, yeah. The show went too far for my own personal taste. "Kira as L" was meant to say that I didn't have so much trouble with Kira being a teenager as L somehow being the world's greatest detective when he only has ten pubic hairs. It was a bit ridiculous that Kira wound up joining the investigation team seeing as how he's a teenager, but it is even more ridiculous that L is some master detective with such an extensive resume. He must have caught all of the world's greatest criminals in a span of five years tops. Ehhhh. I tend to like supernatural sensation, so let's say we can agree to disagree on the type of content we prefer. And as I said, I had no believeability issues with it, and found nothing hard to suspend. Anime heroines and "super intelligent guy using his powers for good/or bad" are often teenagers. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Kira is an imaginative character right? I'm sorry you only "like" it, being that there aren't any other anime fans on this board. True, this is something I admire more than I enjoy, but I wanted to get into a discussion because I'm lonely being the lone anime geek. As for the superpowered/intelligent people often being teens (especially in anime), that's something that I never cared for and it pretty much always bothers me. I don't mind if all the characters are young (the magnificent Princess Tutu, which would def be my 2002 win), but when you throw some child into an adult world because they're just so damn good, I tend to give you the side eye. I enjoy Fullmetal Alchemist (2003)* greatly, but a thirteen year old wunderkind beating out so many other applicants for the job of State Alchemist so easily is a moment that took me out of the story. (I did appreciate that Mustang is pretty much sponsoring Ed and putting him in dangerous situations because he trusts that Ed can pull it off -- which does a great job of showing just how much of an asshole Mustang is and explains why Ed is given such preferential treatment at the exam.) That said, all of this is merely one issue that didn't bother me overly much. It's that we're spending so much time inside of the mind of Satan that bothers me more than anything. You familiar with Madoka Magica? I think it's earned its place as my favorite piece of fiction in any medium by this point. *Yes, 2003. Brotherhood is bad, it has always been bad, it will always be bad. |
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Still haven't watched, but that's a huge claim, dude. I guess I have no choice but to check this out this weekend.
), and the show would sometimes break it entirely. I'm looking at you, supervillain prison and slashfic fuel arcs.
