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Post by ireallyamsomething on Mar 27, 2021 11:07:03 GMT
I only watched a few scenes from the documentary and there's an actual film critic who says Woody Allen's next film after Annie Hall was Manhattan - entirely omitting Interiors (1978). That is just shoddy. Or calculated? Because they couldn't find suitable incriminating clips?
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Mar 27, 2021 11:31:14 GMT
So I've finally given it a try.Well...What a shameful pile of shiAt. Manipulative , biased and purposely uninformative. Solely designed to persecute Allen.We are not given any countering opinion or content, there are only a few snippets of Allen's narrated autobiography, and these are not used to counter Mia, Dylan and Ronan's recollections. Only a written statement of denial from Woody is included at the very end. Yes @tyler ,there are some lovely shots of New York and Mia's house , but the overall glossiness doesn't paper over the apparent partiality to the film makers' approach, and only serves to highlight the lack of factual content.
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Post by ireallyamsomething on Mar 27, 2021 11:45:28 GMT
So I've finally given it a try.Well...What a shameful pile of shiAt. Manipulative , biased and purposely uninformative. Solely designed to persecute Allen.We are not given any countering opinion or content, there are only a few snippets of Allen's narrated autobiography, and these are not used to counter Mia, Dylan and Ronan's recollections. Only a written statement of denial from Woody is included at the very end. Yes @tyler ,there are some lovely shots of New York and Mia's house , but the overall glossiness doesn't paper over the apparent partiality to the film makers' approach, and only serves to highlight the lack of factual content. I also saw a close to parody level comparison with Farrow's activism in a third world country followed by Woody Allen appearing at the Oscars, as if he was a regular at those award shows - in which he has appeared a grand total of 1 (one) time.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 27, 2021 12:04:01 GMT
The documentary repeats a common tactic of those who manipulate the masses - by repeating the lie often enough that it's perceived as a truth.
There is nothing in this documentary other than Dylan's words which themselves are questionable that changes anything from the criminal investigation. Nothing ........except our new culture of hysteria......
I would advise anyone who watched this and DIDN'T watch "Leaving Neverland" to watch that documentary which some people said was also dishonest and yet which unveiled specific new details and context at least and to me was a pretty damning indictment of Michael Jackson.
Watch them both back to back see what you think......make up your own mind.....see how missing facts exonerate one here clearly (Allen) and yet don't exonerate the other imo (Jackson) ....
“Film is 24 lies per second at the service of truth, or at the service of the attempt to find the truth.” - Michael Haneke
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Post by ireallyamsomething on Mar 27, 2021 12:28:12 GMT
The documentary repeats a common tactic of those who manipulate the masses - by repeating the lie often enough that it's perceived as a truth. There is nothing in this documentary other than Dylan's words which themselves are questionable that changes anything from the criminal investigation. Nothing ........except our new culture of hysteria...... I would advise anyone who watched this and DIDN'T watch "Leaving Neverland" to watch that documentary which some people said was also dishonest and yet which unveiled specific new details and context at least and to me was a pretty damning indictment of Michael Jackson. Watch them both back to back see what you think......make up your own mind.....see how missing facts exonerate one here clearly (Allen) and yet don't exonerate the other imo (Jackson) .... “Film is 24 lies per second at the service of truth, or at the service of the attempt to find the truth.” - Michael HanekeThe tactic has clearly worked though. Even seemingly intelligent people are not even willing to have some doubt over this case. Why can one not just say 'I don't know'? An alarmingly large number of people on Twitter are saying 1) Allen deserves to be in jail 2) Allen was a bad writer/director. Not sure which one is worse.
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Post by flasuss on Mar 27, 2021 15:00:15 GMT
So I've finally given it a try.Well...What a shameful pile of shiAt. Manipulative , biased and purposely uninformative. Solely designed to persecute Allen.We are not given any countering opinion or content, there are only a few snippets of Allen's narrated autobiography, and these are not used to counter Mia, Dylan and Ronan's recollections. Only a written statement of denial from Woody is included at the very end. Yes @tyler ,there are some lovely shots of New York and Mia's house , but the overall glossiness doesn't paper over the apparent partiality to the film makers' approach, and only serves to highlight the lack of factual content. I also saw a close to parody level comparison with Farrow's activism in a third world country followed by Woody Allen appearing at the Oscars, as if he was a regular at those award shows - in which he has appeared a grand total of 1 (one) time. LMAO! Woody Allen is now an award show lover. I lived to see everything.
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Post by thomasjerome on Mar 27, 2021 19:00:49 GMT
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Mar 28, 2021 0:37:00 GMT
Not sure if it was posted in the thread already, but here's Moses' retelling of what happened in the Farrow household. link
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Post by ireallyamsomething on Mar 30, 2021 8:04:09 GMT
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Post by ireallyamsomething on Mar 31, 2021 1:21:18 GMT
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Post by Martin Stett on Mar 31, 2021 2:48:40 GMT
Holy fuck that is just sick.
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Post by Good God on Mar 31, 2021 5:00:00 GMT
LOL, let's not forget this famous mishap:
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Post by ireallyamsomething on Mar 31, 2021 5:05:19 GMT
LOL, let's not forget this famous mishap: I get people finding Woody Allen creepy but how or why do they say Mia Farrow is a saint?! Like, seriously. Plus her comments tend to imply Soon Yi was dumb or retarded whereas she seems to be a well educated, intelligent woman.
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Post by Good God on Mar 31, 2021 5:08:02 GMT
I get people finding Woody Allen creepy but how or why do they say Mia Farrow is a saint?! Like, seriously. Plus her comments tend to imply Soon Yi was dumb or retarded whereas she seems to be a well educated, intelligent woman. I think there is more evidence of Farrow being an abusive parent than there is of Allen being a pedophile. With that said, I don't want to get into a mudslinging contest over this because there is so much none of us will ever know and it's best we all accepted that.
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Post by ireallyamsomething on Mar 31, 2021 5:12:19 GMT
The world would be a better place if more people just said this (Not only regarding this topic).
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Mar 31, 2021 18:32:07 GMT
So is Jesus Ronan Farrow going to say why one of his sisters is getting erased from their family's history? Or does she not count?
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Post by ireallyamsomething on Mar 31, 2021 18:51:21 GMT
So is Jesus Ronan Farrow going to say why one of his sisters is getting erased from their family's history? Or does she not count? Of course not - he has a tendency to conveniently ignore sort of any valid criticism or debate. From Robert Weide's blog:
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Post by ireallyamsomething on Apr 1, 2021 6:08:55 GMT
Mia Farrow addressed 'vicious rumors': She says Tam was 17 but according to previous reports she was 19... pbs.twimg.com/media/Ex3Htl8UYAIsZ7H?format=jpg&name=medium I am honestly a bit amazed and disappointed how almost all media outlets and critics have lacked a nuanced take on this case.
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Post by Pasquale on Apr 1, 2021 13:52:23 GMT
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Post by ireallyamsomething on Apr 1, 2021 14:15:22 GMT
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